since you are using a gtx 960 its not going to make much difference with i3/i5
in come cases, i3 is faster then i5
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry79373238

where are some more bench marks
http://www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-v...-cpu/page4.html

If you have extra cash
Definitely get an SSD, 250GB version preferably, but 120gb will do to shave money and change to the below hardware suggested below instead.
If you swap to a Seasonic S12II semi modular PSU, its essentially the same PSU (semi vs full mod cables) and save another RM60

GTX 960? you exclusively play high fps games on your PC?
what about reading, watching movies, rendering stuff? these does not need fast refresh rate monitor, but a good viewing monitor.
why get a cheap TN monitor? suggest get a VA panel instead, VA has the best contrast, much better colour and view angles, similar to IPS panel.

BENQ 24'''' GL2460 RM 463.22
http://www.lelong.com.my/benq-24-gl2460-le...6-06-Sale-P.htm
TN panel 2ms gtg

Suggest you buy BenQ GW2470H RM529.00
http://www.lelong.com.my/benq-24-va-fhd-le...7-01-Sale-P.htm
VA panel 4ms gtg

i personally got a BenQ EW2440L similar to GW2470H.
http://www.lazada.com.my/benq-ew2440zh-238...ck-8888865.html
Got it fro RM525 with free delivery on special 11.11 last year, its constantly on sale a lazada, eg 2 months ago lazada bday etc...
the new version EW2440ZH has better panel so i am told

cm devastator II RM185
is a fake mechanical keyboard
Cooler Master Exclusive New Switch "Mem-chanical" keyboard lol
its better then your normal MK200 Logitech keyboard mouse RM63, still not worth its asking price unless you really like the looks.

If you got cash just buy a proper Logitech mouse
I personally use G300s, love all the customize programmable buttons, and love the small size (finger grip style)
RM84 - cheap
http://www.lelong.com.my/logitech-gaming-m...6-05-Sale-P.htm

Get a proper keyboard this one should last you years of use.
cheapest legendary Cherry MX switch mechanical keyboard you can find
RM235
http://www.lelong.com.my/cherry-mx-board-2...7-01-Sale-I.htm
suggest you get the brown switches
unless you like blue switches (best typing feel but very noisy)
or the gamer favorite red/black switch (its a linear switch, no tactile feel, no click feedback)

you can fit all the above in your RM560 budget (assume you switch PSU)
you may even fit a 250gb SSD in, I personnaly will get the Ultra II max instead of the plus max
120GB ssd goes for around RM200 hence I rather topup RM100 and double the size, faster transfer rates too.

http://www.lelong.com.my/sandisk-ssd-ultra...7-01-Sale-I.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/sandisk-ssd-plus-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

didnt know they had a branch in penang, i got 3 pc from kl.
are they the same owner? coz the kl branch did not list the penang branch?

i already provided you the links,price and lots of description dud.
other wise just search in lelong, lazada etc....to find best price youself and use calculator

gosh so lazy mah? i took my time/effort to write plenty and you want me to requote you.
dont feel like spoon feeding you,

blue switches are the best to type the feel is amazing in my opinion, but they are very very loud hi pitch click sound and i find that very annoying., just you tube it. if you can handle the sound go for blue, unless you are a gamer go for red.
brown are somewhere in between blue and red.
blue or red being the most popular out there.

I was investigating the option of eGPU as well last year, it turns out too complicated for me, there are people in lowyat forum that has done it.
the cheapest on is from China taobao they use a dell laptop psu to power the eGPU, but you need to connect to laptops MSATA port or something, thats if you are lucky have a spare one that works in your laptop, otherwise people take their wifi card out and use that port to interface with eGPU, and use a USB wifi stick. the back of the laptop is hacked opened,

Other solution is if you laptop has a express card (extincted stuff) then its even better, no need to hack your laptop.
Best solution is use thunderbolt connector, only on modern high end laptops

There is another Taiwan company sells the egpu hardware much better firmware/compatible then the chinese version, but expensive.
i remember the chinese version has soo many compatible issues, when you find the seller they will tell you what laptop has been tested and runing ok. just search forum lowyat for more info, and google it too. i remember there was this other website that had a tone of usefull info.

google is your friend
I too lazy googling it and posting the links for you

that is how i know about it last time, i google and read a lot of info probably spend 1-2 days researching, you probably can make it under 1k but the time it takes for you to configuring it can take a very long.
thats why i gave up, better just buy normal pc for gaming.

like terrace said google PE4C
the last time i googled egpu and lowyat forum showed up on page 1 or 2, if not just include it in your search.
from memory there is a seller on taobao that has lots of description, also last time someone on /k/ selling the same item 2nd hand, probably cant get it going lol

wow this new p version of i5 and i3 is cheaper then the usual i5-6400 / i3-6100
i5 6402p
i3 6098P

only difference i can see is its 0.1GHZ slower and iGPU HD510 instead of HD530
and a huge $$ saving of 8-9%
which is great for someone intending to buy a GPU or on a budget and dont need a fast iGPU.

Would you recommend anyone on the old Xeon E3-1231 vs i7 skylake (assume they will be getting GPU), the potential saving of around RM260 with cpu+mobo combo?

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: May 1 2016, 10:46 PM

First I was making a comment on the better value new chips
i5 6402p
i3 6098P

Then i was suggesting E3-1231 V3 + H61 rather then i7 Skylake+ H110
Save about RM260, worth it for people on the budget?

here is another example RM230 topup can get from i5 to i7
i5 6402p RM745
H110 RM289
Total 1034
-slower sore speeds
-latest socket

E3-1231 V3 RM1063
H61 RM200
total RM1263
-faster core speeds
-last gen socket

I bought 3 basic pc from etech and they all assemble and install ori win10 free. i checked it using cmd and confirm its legit win10.
i think he got cheap windows 7 from somewhere in upgrade to win10, coz on some of the pc it had a downgrade option, i already ask him if he got from this guy form lelong for RM35 but he said no.
the win10 they install is messy, you need to change the region , time etc.... they did not have time to do all that for you, and also you need to do a huge windows update, which took me like 6 hours each pc.

here is an alternative built, based on what you said it just seems you are a casual user, you dont really do a lot of pro vid/photo editing, just basic youtube stuff, and slight gaming

Basically downgrade your CPU and mobo -RM380, as you dont really need the raw power for you usage
downgraded your case -RM100 there are many cheaper case to choose from if you dont mid the looks
downgrade to USB wireless, if your wifi is close to your PC.

use the extra money to upgrade the following:
get an extra ssd for your OS, you will feel a world of difference, highly recommended
get a better speakers, may to choose form, ok ones start from RM100, there are plenty of good ones around RM200
my personal choice would be the bookshelf (R1000T IIII) its big tho, it also sounds better then the 2.1 at similar price range.
for speakers just stick to Edifier, its very good value.

if you intend to play games its better you get i3+gtx950 rather then a i5+gtx750ti, its provides better gaming performance and slightly cheaper too.
if you dont intend to play that much games just stick with gtx750ti and save yourself RM200, which is enought to play games at hd


Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 421
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 489 or
ZOTAC GEFORCE GTX 950 2GB GDDR5 - RM 679
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 195
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
D-LINK N150 WIRELESS USB WiFi - RM 19
Case = ARMAGGEDDON T1x or T2x or T2z RM85-119 or
Case = RAIDMAX ANURA M-ATX - RM 119
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 63
Edifier 2.1 (4” Woofer) M1360 - RM105 or
Edifier 2.1 (4” woofer) R101V - RM79 or
EDIFIER 2.0 (4" WOOFER) R1000T IIII - RM209

Total: RM 2??? (ETech price inclusive of GST)

No prob, Im a value oriented person.
if you download movie/watch and surf internet most of the time, even a cheap Pentium will do the job, you can still edit stuff on that too, it just takes a bit longer then i3/i5, how long its hard to tell, depends on what kind of software you use and how big your file is.
but it sounds like you are not using a professional editing software all the time (you mention edit for youtube?) so the Pentium may not even be that much slower then i3/i5, as its just small clips occasionally.

If you are not intending to play games then no need to buy a GPU.
Intel Pentium G3260 - RM216 - 3.3GHZ 2c,2t
Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 427 - 3.6GHZ 2c,4t - HD510
Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470 - 3.7GHZ 2c,4t - HD530

The HD530 iGPU is a pretty good graphics, from memory i think its similar to GT730 which cost around RM300
The HD510 iGPU is a normal iGPU, it has only half Execution Units of the HD530
Pentium iGPU even worse, there are people on youtube able to play gtv 5 on this with lowest resolution with ok frame rates.
All the above iGPU will have no problem watching high res videos i mean 1080, not sure about 4k tho, you need to search online for that.

Just get the i3 6100
but personally if I were in your situation and want the best bang for buck, I would rather spend the money on Pentium + SSD
if i want to play some games, i would just buy eg gtx750ti down the road, i will not play games at lowest resolution, it just sucks.
If you can get the i3 -6100+ SSD even better.

I am currently using a fanless laptop with Core M 5y10c its similar to an i3 but with max 2.0 GHZ, it has a HD515 and it plays FULL HD 1080 8GB downloaded movies just fine.
this Core i3 6098P is faster then your typical i5/i7 laptops.

how does these 2 compare with FSP Hexa+ 550W ?
Its probably cheaper.
but abut the caps/fuse and stable current etc.....

oh thanks
I though the CM V stands for Value.

ok i think its just 2 options for me, either FSP hexa, next up would be Seasonic S12II
what about somewhere in between like their FSP Hyper seriers?
Dont think ive seen anyone recommend it before?

i think 350W is enought to power a GTX750ti or even the new low power GTX950 (not sure if available in malaysia)
why dont you spend extra RM40 get a better PSU, 100W extra
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166

terence_nwb
can you confirm FSP Hexa+ series is generally better then CM Elite? capacitors etc....

Recommend
get a cheaper case instead
Armageddon T1x - RM 89

swap to a WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215 instead, I just think they are more reliable.

Highly recommend you
get a Pentium G4400 RM 236.00 instead of a i3-6100
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/a6-7400b-vs...0-cpu-review/6/
As you can see photo shop is only marginally faster with i3 with intense usage 15sec vs 17sec.
- if you choose this then you will save RM240, wise choice! use the extra money to get and stick with BenQ GW2270 and maybe upgrade PSU.

if you insist in getting a i3 then get the cheaper version i3-6098P RM 432.00
as you dont play games it will not make much difference.

If you really on a budget you can get a Haswell chip/mobo, it will only save you around RM70-80
not really worth it tho, performance is about the same, but it just leaves you less future upgrade option

higly recommend you stay with BenQ GW2270 - RM 379
its a VA pannel vs cheap TN pannel, its also flicker free so easy on the eyes

Optional if you can spare RM40, just upgrade your PSU to
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
it just a bit of future proofing in case you want to get a medium end graphics card in the future.

I thought VA has the worse response time of the 3, TN being the fastest?
VA has the best contrass

for value for money i5-6402P is best, i did saw some benchmarks with i5-6400 vs i5-6500 a while back and it hardly makes any difference in gaming, and a little bit in office, but more in graphics design.
i5-6402P is 100mgz faster then i5-6400 too.
if you already using a gpu then get i5-6402P for best value.

8gb is more then enough for normal users, you can always upgrade to 16gb easily in the future if you feel you need more.

how many GB is your gtx1060?

terence seem to recommend
kingston v400 ssd instead, that 240gb model is cheap/perform rm240 or something
also he normally recommends seasonic psu its cheaper and better hardware for its price range.
why not just get a normal cooler master 212 evo or something, from memory
its cheaper and quieter and similar/better performance. definitively more reliable in the long term department you mention rig will be for at least 5 years. cheap aio water cooler is not proven to be as reliable as standard coolers.

sometimes you need to downgrade the bios as manufacture is disabling BCLK oc due to Intel complaining.

read recently it also BCLK also screws up your throttle, so you CPU is on full speed all the time,
also the temp readings are wrong as well you need to use another way to read the temps of your CPU.

just google for more detail answers, plenty of good guides around

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: Jul 14 2016, 01:11 PM

Why not get the Asrock H81 version instead its only around RM200


I agree i5-2500 vs i3-6100 the i3-6100 wins on performance, but i sure the 2nd hand i5 is cheaper.
Sandy i5 vs i3-6100 is a close call re performance