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Mar 3 2016, 07:06 PM, updated 5y ago
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Thought I'd open a thread to talk about general gear discussions, shows and event and latest audio news.
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Mar 3 2016, 07:37 PM
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looks like current trend of talk is mojo and iems
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Mar 3 2016, 07:40 PM
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Lets continue!
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REMAX RM-600M
Moving iron unit, should be another level for me |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 3 2016, 07:40 PM) Ini baru cool man. That's some straight-up Frankenstein stuff right there Not sure what the results will be like, do you have a rig to measure a before and after frequency response?1st lesson to be teardown ATH-IM50 and order REMAX Rm-600m iron unit driver for swap over Sound cool right Also, if you're interested in this kind of stuff, the next logical step would be to 3d-print a housing for the driver, instead of just slapping it into an existing shell. |
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The IM50 would have more bass, and because it has dual drivers it's much more sensitive (108dB vs 97 dB), and with that sensitivity you won't have to push it as far to produce decent volume, and therefore it will stay well out of distortion levels.
My guess is, because the BA driver of the RM600M is self contained, it'll most probably be about the same. Maybe some minor differences, because of the longer nozzle (and probably different diametre too). The IM50's casing is quite unergonomic, and a BA driver would require no less than a perfect vacuum seal, so that could be a problem. |
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Another cool thing, everyone talks in head-fi now in stereo soon
Can't wait |
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I managed to get my speakers last week. Edifier Studio 7, they're pretty ok for the price. But I think if I waited a little longer I could've gotten a pair of KRK Rokits instead.
Even though the speakers aren't TOTL, I prefer them over headphones at the moment. The music experience is different between headphones and speakers. |
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Mar 3 2016, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(penmarker @ Mar 3 2016, 11:52 PM) I managed to get my speakers last week. Edifier Studio 7, they're pretty ok for the price. But I think if I waited a little longer I could've gotten a pair of KRK Rokits instead. Home speaker would be good too, but most of time didn't manage a good cleaning, would be dust collector, in between headphone & IEMs is personal preference too.Even though the speakers aren't TOTL, I prefer them over headphones at the moment. The music experience is different between headphones and speakers. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 3 2016, 09:23 PM) Another cool thing, everyone talks in head-fi now in stereo soon Heard about the Pinnacle P1. It's like MEE put in all their chips for their big mid-fi flagship. Read that it sounds neutral, slight treble emphasis with wide stage. I wouldn't be so interested in it if it weren't sold out since CNY. You getting? The machined metal looks nice.Can't wait |
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50 ohm impedance. It would need an amp to drive properly. Though it is an easy load for portables (albeit you won't reach very high volumes).
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Honestly, does acoustic design on the inner housing matters? I wonder if plastic (cheaper ones) encasing does affect sound. Coz I really find the likes of Finals (especially), Dita, and IEMs with metal housing sound slightly different. Like they can afford louder sound w/o distortion (or is it because they're more expensive than the ones I tried? Shrugs).
Shure did a great job on their 846 low pass thingy. That's also related to what I'm talking about. Less on the driver unit, more on the design of passage between the driver and our ears. |
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Mar 4 2016, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 07:41 AM) Honestly, does acoustic design on the inner housing matters? I wonder if plastic (cheaper ones) encasing does affect sound. Coz I really find the likes of Finals (especially), Dita, and IEMs with metal housing sound slightly different. Like they can afford louder sound w/o distortion (or is it because they're more expensive than the ones I tried? Shrugs). Bass impact + sound leak for matel shell/housing will help up.Shure did a great job on their 846 low pass thingy. That's also related to what I'm talking about. Less on the driver unit, more on the design of passage between the driver and our ears. Such as soild wood vs chipboard on speaker the sound might be slightly different too. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:54 AM) Heard about the Pinnacle P1. It's like MEE put in all their chips for their big mid-fi flagship. Read that it sounds neutral, slight treble emphasis with wide stage. I wouldn't be so interested in it if it weren't sold out since CNY. You getting? The machined metal looks nice. Not getting yet, cause my target on end of month go n grab JH Angie ll, hope I can afford it. Since from my Remax S1 can fulfill me |
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Anyone own the Westone W60 or 4R or UM Pro 50 here, please feedback and how does the impression sound
Very interesting on westone cause they package more armature drivers than Shure 846 max 4 drivers only Actually shure 846 the sound not thick enough, so I dislike shure 846 btw This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 4 2016, 08:19 AM |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 4 2016, 08:31 AM) REMAX is better, let you eat same foods you might getting boring, different IEMs got different taste I knew you're the legend here.. So that is why wanna learn from you guys here |
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Mar 4 2016, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 07:41 AM) Honestly, does acoustic design on the inner housing matters? I wonder if plastic (cheaper ones) encasing does affect sound. Coz I really find the likes of Finals (especially), Dita, and IEMs with metal housing sound slightly different. Like they can afford louder sound w/o distortion (or is it because they're more expensive than the ones I tried? Shrugs). I don't know, but just as an example, Sammy Rhapsodio mentioned that his flagship Galaxy actually sounds better (better details, brighter) in its universal metal housing, as opposed to the acryllic custom version (darker, bassier). This is the first time I've heard a company boss claiming that his uni is better than the custom lol.Shure did a great job on their 846 low pass thingy. That's also related to what I'm talking about. Less on the driver unit, more on the design of passage between the driver and our ears. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:27 AM) I don't know, but just as an example, Sammy Rhapsodio mentioned that his flagship Galaxy actually sounds better (better details, brighter) in its universal metal housing, as opposed to the acryllic custom version (darker, bassier). This is the first time I've heard a company boss claiming that his uni is better than the custom lol. I love metal or ceramic housing when done right. It has this special echo which makes the sound more "mature/stable". Or weighty. But the latest kumitomo trio, it's Damn bright. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:32 AM) I love metal or ceramic housing when done right. It has this special echo which makes the sound more "mature/stable". Or weighty. at canjam i noticed quite a few companies start using titanium shells or something like that, they claim it prevents vibration on the shell so all tje sound will be channeled to the ear canal and not lost in shell vibrations But the latest kumitomo trio, it's Damn bright. but i dont buy their claim, there's no evidence of it |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 09:40 AM) at canjam i noticed quite a few companies start using titanium shells or something like that, they claim it prevents vibration on the shell so all tje sound will be channeled to the ear canal and not lost in shell vibrations My engineer friends just admire the construction. Apatu metal injection moulding. They don't buy the claim of "better sound" either.but i dont buy their claim, there's no evidence of it |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 09:40 AM) at canjam i noticed quite a few companies start using titanium shells or something like that, they claim it prevents vibration on the shell so all tje sound will be channeled to the ear canal and not lost in shell vibrations i beg to differ on this one. i own both Flare's R2A (aluminium) and R2Pro (titanium). The housing structure is the same, but made with different material. the sound signature is hugely different between these two. sound stage is also wider on the titanium one.but i dont buy their claim, there's no evidence of it |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 09:43 AM) I didn't know that. Few that got mentioned are like the Pinnacle P1, RHA T10i, and the Macaw GT100s.You sold the T20 confirm you looking for sound and not construction haha. But I love the Jupiter sound, very airy and comfortable sig. Now looking for lubang to get it cheap cheap. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:47 AM) I didn't know that. Few that got mentioned are like the Pinnacle P1, RHA T10i, and the Macaw GT100s. Anyway carousell.sg will doYou sold the T20 confirm you looking for sound and not construction haha. But I love the Jupiter sound, very airy and comfortable sig. Now looking for lubang to get it cheap cheap. |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 09:44 AM) i beg to differ on this one. i own both Flare's R2A (aluminium) and R2Pro (titanium). The housing structure is the same, but made with different material. the sound signature is hugely different between these two. sound stage is also wider on the titanium one. Sounds plausible, but as always sound is subjective. So there will never be a peer-reviewed, randomised controlled trials that will prove that titanium housings improve soundstage. Beauty in the ears of the beholder.How are the Flares? Saw one in the garage sales. Live up to the hype? |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:50 AM) Or you can buy Jupiter instead of Angie, don't like also never mind, I'll buy it cheap cheap from you. No lah, buy n sell waste money, I should be a good one, can used for longer and at least few years.RHA T20 sound is beautiful, but just 2 coil dynamics meant only produces 2 layers, bass & treble without mids, I like voices more more bassy. So my REMAX S1 can deliver better balanced at all But dunno why ppls still prefer Noble K10 This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 4 2016, 10:01 AM |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 09:44 AM) i beg to differ on this one. i own both Flare's R2A (aluminium) and R2Pro (titanium). The housing structure is the same, but made with different material. the sound signature is hugely different between these two. sound stage is also wider on the titanium one. it might not be the shell but the drivers, unless they use exact build except the shell |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:27 AM) I don't know, but just as an example, Sammy Rhapsodio mentioned that his flagship Galaxy actually sounds better (better details, brighter) in its universal metal housing, as opposed to the acryllic custom version (darker, bassier). This is the first time I've heard a company boss claiming that his uni is better than the custom lol. The time will come when we will have the technology to mass produce custom metal in-ear monitors. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 09:54 AM) No lah, buy n sell waste money, I should be a good one, can used for longer and at least few years. Honest face. I just called my relationship manager and am buying Remax shares right now.RHA T20 sound is beautiful, but just 2 coil dynamics meant only produces 2 layers, bass & treble without mids, I like voices more more bassy. So my REMAX S1 can deliver better balanced at all But dunno why ppls still prefer Noble K10 |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 09:40 AM) at canjam i noticed quite a few companies start using titanium shells or something like that, they claim it prevents vibration on the shell so all tje sound will be channeled to the ear canal and not lost in shell vibrations but i dont buy their claim, there's no evidence of it QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 09:44 AM) i beg to differ on this one. i own both Flare's R2A (aluminium) and R2Pro (titanium). The housing structure is the same, but made with different material. the sound signature is hugely different between these two. sound stage is also wider on the titanium one. Yep. If what Final Audio Design claimed is true, they basically use the entirely same inner part on both Piano Forte IX and Piano Forte X, but I totally find the IX to be brighter than the much thicker X. IX is on stainless steel and X is on chrome copper. I tried the Piano Forte II, it sounds... well, like the bass reflected not evenly.QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:47 AM) I didn't know that. Few that got mentioned are like the Pinnacle P1, RHA T10i, and the Macaw GT100s. Jupiter is marvelous! You sold the T20 confirm you looking for sound and not construction haha. But I love the Jupiter sound, very airy and comfortable sig. Now looking for lubang to get it cheap cheap. QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 09:54 AM) No lah, buy n sell waste money, I should be a good one, can used for longer and at least few years. what is bass & treble without mids? V-shaped, or totally recessed, or totally no mids?RHA T20 sound is beautiful, but just 2 coil dynamics meant only produces 2 layers, bass & treble without mids, I like voices more more bassy. So my REMAX S1 can deliver better balanced at all But dunno why ppls still prefer Noble K10 |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:47 AM) I didn't know that. Few that got mentioned are like the Pinnacle P1, RHA T10i, and the Macaw GT100s. found lubang please share You sold the T20 confirm you looking for sound and not construction haha. But I love the Jupiter sound, very airy and comfortable sig. Now looking for lubang to get it cheap cheap. QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 09:49 AM) Sounds plausible, but as always sound is subjective. So there will never be a peer-reviewed, randomised controlled trials that will prove that titanium housings improve soundstage. Beauty in the ears of the beholder. i'd say the R2As are absolute steal at that price point (50GBP at kickstarter price). R2Pros on the other hand, not value for money at 200GBP. both driven with same dynamic driver. Pro has better details, punchier bass, wider and taller soundstage. treble is laidback on both, and not too detailed like BAs. bass is amazing though, on the R2As, but more controlled and punchier+tighter on the Pros. bass lovers should definitely try these out. @phillip88 demo-ed the r2pro while testing my DP-X1. maybe he can chip in his opinion.How are the Flares? Saw one in the garage sales. Live up to the hype? my brother and i did a couple of blind tests with these pairs and i was able to tell them apart every single time. i'm not saying that my opinion is final, but just stating that the difference is obvious to me. QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 10:09 AM) the drivers are the same, or so they claim. i bought a pair of spare drivers for just-in-case repairs and they told me they are all the same for R2S, R2A and R2Pro. while i'm no mechanical/EE engineer, i did open up the housing and they look similar to me.This post has been edited by konpaku: Mar 4 2016, 10:32 AM |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:13 AM) Yep. If what Final Audio Design claimed is true, they basically use the entirely same inner part on both Piano Forte IX and Piano Forte X, but I totally find the IX to be brighter than the much thicker X. IX is on stainless steel and X is on chrome copper. I tried the Piano Forte II, it sounds... well, like the bass reflected not evenly. Anyway when u compare from 2 speakers with 4 speakers the sound was different a lotJupiter is marvelous! what is bass & treble without mids? V-shaped, or totally recessed, or totally no mids? |
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Mar 4 2016, 10:21 AM) din even go to visit CanJam Haha, recently I sold my AK100II, now just using Note 5 + my SE846 for daily outstation usebeen busy lately, my desktop setup is collection dust, only daily commuting to work with my iPod classic + Fiio Q1 + TF10 and I have no target to buy anything, yet. Meanwhile I continue to try <RM3k DAPs, may be eventually buy Sony PCM-D100 or Onkyo DP-X1 or any new player with good price and good sound BTW, no more AK player liao This post has been edited by shin2l: Mar 4 2016, 10:38 AM |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 10:17 AM) found lubang please share It's a micro driver, that's as obvious as I can tell. The sound coming from that micro driver, the type of bass, quite similar to Yamaha EPH-100. Just that I can hear it has (i suspect) achieved its potential with the DP-X1. Still, not the utmost clearest sound. But definitely live-able when wanting a more relaxed listening.i'd say the R2As are absolute steal at that price point (50GBP at kickstarter price). R2Pros on the other hand, not value for money at 200GBP. both driven with same dynamic driver. Pro has better details, punchier bass, wider and taller soundstage. treble is laidback on both, and not too detailed like BAs. bass is amazing though, on the R2As, but more controlled and punchier+tighter on the Pros. bass lovers should definitely try these out. @phillip88 demo-ed the r2pro while testing my DP-X1. maybe he can chip in his opinion. my brother and i did a couple of blind tests with these pairs and i was able to tell them apart every single time. i'm not saying that my opinion is final, but just stating that the difference is obvious to me. the drivers are the same, or so they claim. i bought a pair of spare drivers for just-in-case repairs and they told me they are all the same for R2S, R2A and R2Pro. while i'm no mechanical/EE engineer, i did open up the housing and they look similar to me. QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 10:20 AM) Erm. Maybe I haven't achieve that kind of level yet. Regardless of how many drivers inside an IEM, it's either coherent or incoherent to my ears.QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 4 2016, 10:38 AM) Haha, recently I sold my AK100II, now just using Note 5 + my SE846 for daily outstation use Definitely do consider DP-X1 as it's is really light, and the sound is amazing! DX80 is smooth. Both are portable.Meanwhile I continue to try <RM3k DAPs, may be eventually buy Sony PCM-D100 or Onkyo DP-X1 or any new player with good price and good sound BTW, no more AK player liao |
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QUOTE(VagueConcerns @ Mar 4 2016, 10:11 AM) That'll be awesomesauce. Carbon fibre is being overdone.QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 4 2016, 10:13 AM) Count me in. K10 beaters at sub-RM100, where to find!QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:13 AM) Yep. If what Final Audio Design claimed is true, they basically use the entirely same inner part on both Piano Forte IX and Piano Forte X, but I totally find the IX to be brighter than the much thicker X. IX is on stainless steel and X is on chrome copper. I tried the Piano Forte II, it sounds... well, like the bass reflected not evenly. Remember what the marketing dept said about Heaven V Aging? The sound will change character over time as the metal housing matures. First reaction is yau mouuu? Then I sold my Heaven VI.Jupiter is marvelous! what is bass & treble without mids? V-shaped, or totally recessed, or totally no mids? Jupiter retails RM4399 from E1. Price is... okaylarr (SGD1399), but when you think about whay you can buy for the family instead (eg new laptop, bluray 5.1 home theatre, unit trust lol) then the guilt sets in. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:45 AM) That'll be awesomesauce. Carbon fibre is being overdone. I'm not sure about V Aging changing sound. AFAIK it's just the surface being oxidized.Count me in. K10 beaters at sub-RM100, where to find! Remember what the marketing dept said about Heaven V Aging? The sound will change character over time as the metal housing matures. First reaction is yau mouuu? Then I sold my Heaven VI. Jupiter retails RM4399 from E1. Price is... okaylarr (SGD1399), but when you think about whay you can buy for the family instead (eg new laptop, bluray 5.1 home theatre, unit trust lol) then the guilt sets in. U think too much then no need buy liao lor. Haha. That's why u wanna buy these exorbitant stuffs, do it when you're single and live alone. Won't have much guilt |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:13 AM) Yep. If what Final Audio Design claimed is true, they basically use the entirely same inner part on both Piano Forte IX and Piano Forte X, but I totally find the IX to be brighter than the much thicker X. IX is on stainless steel and X is on chrome copper. I tried the Piano Forte II, it sounds... well, like the bass reflected not evenly. we should ignore kimsim cause he has no idea what he is sayingJupiter is marvelous! what is bass & treble without mids? V-shaped, or totally recessed, or totally no mids? |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:43 AM) It's a micro driver, that's as obvious as I can tell. The sound coming from that micro driver, the type of bass, quite similar to Yamaha EPH-100. Just that I can hear it has (i suspect) achieved its potential with the DP-X1. Still, not the utmost clearest sound. But definitely live-able when wanting a more relaxed listening. RHA T20 dual coil dynamics driver only produces sound, Bass and Treble, but mids ranges un clear, so the voical voices very weaks, all covering impact by bass punchy, can't listen voices as well.Erm. Maybe I haven't achieve that kind of level yet. Regardless of how many drivers inside an IEM, it's either coherent or incoherent to my ears. Definitely do consider DP-X1 as it's is really light, and the sound is amazing! DX80 is smooth. Both are portable. Remax S1 maybe cheap IEM but quad core in 1 dynamic driver can produces : mids, bass and treble with detailed. The sound totally like a live concert or studio room, can be listened more enjoyable, unlike it very flat n something missing on detailed. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 10:57 AM) RHA T20 dual coil dynamics driver only produces sound, Bass and Treble, but mids ranges un clear, so the voical voices very weaks, all covering impact by bass punchy, can't listen voices as well. why are you so concerned with driver amounts, they dont matter when tuning is bad, what "dual coil dynamic" etc are just namesRemax S1 maybe cheap IEM but quad core in 1 dynamic driver can produces : mids, bass and treble with detailed. The sound totally like a live concert or studio room, can be listened more enjoyable, unlike it very flat n something missing on detailed. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:43 AM) It's a micro driver, that's as obvious as I can tell. The sound coming from that micro driver, the type of bass, quite similar to Yamaha EPH-100. Just that I can hear it has (i suspect) achieved its potential with the DP-X1. Still, not the utmost clearest sound. But definitely live-able when wanting a more relaxed listening. have the dx90, love the sound, but the software wise, worst ever usedErm. Maybe I haven't achieve that kind of level yet. Regardless of how many drivers inside an IEM, it's either coherent or incoherent to my ears. Definitely do consider DP-X1 as it's is really light, and the sound is amazing! DX80 is smooth. Both are portable. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 10:57 AM) RHA T20 dual coil dynamics driver only produces sound, Bass and Treble, but mids ranges un clear, so the voical voices very weaks, all covering impact by bass punchy, can't listen voices as well. I wonder what does it mean quad core? It's not a friggin CPU, and I never heard people use core to replace the term BA. Perhaps a new design which I haven't discovered.Remax S1 maybe cheap IEM but quad core in 1 dynamic driver can produces : mids, bass and treble with detailed. The sound totally like a live concert or studio room, can be listened more enjoyable, unlike it very flat n something missing on detailed. Erm... AFAIK the second driver of T20 is to produce treble (AFAIU from the orange line on the graph). It's still pretty even across the frequency, and unless the unit you got is defective, the sound should be pretty balanced right? |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 4 2016, 10:59 AM) QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 11:03 AM) Yep, but I think I can live with that lol. Reminds me of Questyle UI, it is horrid, but the sound... uh...marvelous. QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 11:04 AM) Erm... different tuning? coz each driver has different property and tune-ability. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 11:04 AM) I wonder what does it mean quad core? It's not a friggin CPU, and I never heard people use core to replace the term BA. Perhaps a new design which I haven't discovered. No if you were listen from r&b electric remix shouldn't be a problems like missing detailed, if you just listen song like Mariah Carey the high voices can tell the differentErm... AFAIK the second driver of T20 is to produce treble (AFAIU from the orange line on the graph). It's still pretty even across the frequency, and unless the unit you got is defective, the sound should be pretty balanced right? |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 10:17 AM) Dude in Headfi selling for $735, but wants to deal with an American with PP account in US. So if you have friends/relatives there, good lor. I'm out.QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 4 2016, 10:38 AM) Haha, recently I sold my AK100II, now just using Note 5 + my SE846 for daily outstation use One more vote for the DP-X1. Sounds so good for the price.Meanwhile I continue to try <RM3k DAPs, may be eventually buy Sony PCM-D100 or Onkyo DP-X1 or any new player with good price and good sound BTW, no more AK player liao QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:48 AM) U think too much then no need buy liao lor. Haha. That's why u wanna buy these exorbitant stuffs, do it when you're single and live alone. Won't have much guilt Poison is still poison hahahahah |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 11:07 AM) No if you were listen from r&b electric remix shouldn't be a problems like missing detailed, if you just listen song like Mariah Carey the high voices can tell the different Erm... U mean extension? Yeah. But did u try changing the tuning filters? It might help, u know? |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:45 AM) Jupiter retails RM4399 from E1. Price is... okaylarr (SGD1399), but when you think about whay you can buy for the family instead (eg new laptop, bluray 5.1 home theatre, unit trust lol) then the guilt sets in. Errr... But wait. Isn't new laptop, bluray 5.1 home theatre for the family or for yourself? QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 11:04 AM) Easy. So that give companies like JH Audio a chance to screw other people with higher prices and profit margins. QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 11:11 AM) I've yet to listen to one. But I'm afraid it's going to be the same. |
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@kimsin thinks i am against him cause of him selling his used mojo for SGD750, when i can find a new one at RM2400, absurdity at it's finest from the best man of the hour
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 11:22 AM) @kimsin thinks i am against him cause of him selling his used mojo for SGD750, when i can find a new one at RM2400, absurdity at it's finest from the best man of the hour I see, but do you really needs mojo to enhance the quality of sound?Since I'm get it then just used to it. I was found the sound only deliver warmed than without mojo, but bass would be improved a lot |
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oh god, kimsim. please brush up your english. i totally cannot understand the points that you are trying to convey. it might be easier to understand you if you just post in chinese or whatever your native language may be.
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 11:47 AM) oh god, kimsim. please brush up your english. i totally cannot understand the points that you are trying to convey. it might be easier to understand you if you just post in chinese or whatever your native language may be. Sorry to my poor English standard, cause when I as young no hardworking for study |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 10:43 AM) It's a micro driver, that's as obvious as I can tell. The sound coming from that micro driver, the type of bass, quite similar to Yamaha EPH-100. Just that I can hear it has (i suspect) achieved its potential with the DP-X1. Still, not the utmost clearest sound. But definitely live-able when wanting a more relaxed listening. i've never heard anyone called dynamic drivers as micro drivers. are they the same thing? afaik eph-100 is also driven with dynamic drivers, 6mm ones. not debating about terminologies, just wondering if i'm missing out on something new |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 11:54 AM) i've never heard anyone called dynamic drivers as micro drivers. are they the same thing? afaik eph-100 is also driven with dynamic drivers, 6mm ones. not debating about terminologies, just wondering if i'm missing out on something new No, the term is not official. Just saw it somewhere else and thought using it for the convenience of describing dynamic driver with the size of 6mm or equivalent smaller ones.Somehow they sound quite similar. Bass is not really deep, and the mids are kinda thick-ish. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:00 PM) That looks to me like a single driver. I wonder where's the quad core coming from? banlence with high, mediant, bass soundGenuinely interested. Coz it's something new to me. i'm sold too. wait, u're serious right? while i'm not rejecting the possibility of cheap stuff sounding good, i just can't possibly believe that something at 200 bucks can better something at the >1000 range, unless we are talking about high margin stuff like beats This post has been edited by konpaku: Mar 4 2016, 12:06 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 12:02 PM) No, don't get me wrong. I'm not doubting your experience. You sound genuinely enjoying your Remax, which is a good thing. Music is about enjoyment.Just that I don't understand the term: Quad core driver. What does that supposed to mean? Maybe you don't know, because you're not the one making it. But I do hope Remax could've made it clearer. QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 12:06 PM) banlence with high, mediant, bass sound I'm not doubting his experience either. Remember the times when I was new to these stuffs and could hardly discern good sound from the bad, even the sub RM200 sounds majestic!i'm sold too. wait, u're serious right? while i'm not rejecting the possibility of cheap stuff sounding good, i just can't possibly believe that something at 200 bucks can better something at the >1000 range. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:09 PM) No, don't get me wrong. I'm not doubting your experience. You sound genuinely enjoying your Remax, which is a good thing. Music is about enjoyment. Maybe I'm still new in audiophile, while the sound quality I should knew the different, cause on ever single piece was used money to buy.Just that I don't understand the term: Quad core driver. What does that supposed to mean? Maybe you don't know, because you're not the one making it. But I do hope Remax could've made it clearer. I'm not doubting his experience either. Remember the times when I was new to these stuffs and could hardly discern good sound from the bad, even the sub RM200 sounds majestic! To be honest the sound from REMAX s1 sound detailed as much better than IM50, from im50 slightly flat without mids range, good bass & treble just without fun n haven sound detailed |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:09 PM) No, don't get me wrong. I'm not doubting your experience. You sound genuinely enjoying your Remax, which is a good thing. Music is about enjoyment. the language in the ad is totally over the topJust that I don't understand the term: Quad core driver. What does that supposed to mean? Maybe you don't know, because you're not the one making it. But I do hope Remax could've made it clearer. I'm not doubting his experience either. Remember the times when I was new to these stuffs and could hardly discern good sound from the bad, even the sub RM200 sounds majestic! |
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I think it's a misunderstanding of terms, quad core /= quad driver. Seems to me a its a single driver with multiple components, the illustration seems to indicate that too. Not exactly convinced by the marketing copy, but then I've never listened to it.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 12:15 PM) Maybe I'm still new in audiophile, while the sound quality I should knew the different, cause on ever single piece was used money to buy. IM50 to my ears are fat, thick and with good midrange. Treble not so loud. It's quite detailed for the price tho.To be honest the sound from REMAX s1 sound detailed as much better than IM50, from im50 slightly flat without mids range, good bass & treble just without fun n haven sound detailed QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 12:15 PM) I try not to think the obvious QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 4 2016, 12:19 PM) I think it's a misunderstanding of terms, quad core /= quad driver. Seems to me a its a single driver with multiple components, the illustration seems to indicate that too. Not exactly convinced by the marketing copy, but then I've never listened to it. Yep. That's what I saw too. Single dynamic driver. Wonder where the quad come from. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:59 PM) IM50 to my ears are fat, thick and with good midrange. Treble not so loud. It's quite detailed for the price tho. Usually talks can be how well of these.I try not to think the obvious Yep. That's what I saw too. Single dynamic driver. Wonder where the quad come from. Once you try it out the taste was different feels. IM50 is the pure dynamic drive vs this RM-535 dynamic drive are totally different, at center portion was made with matel piece. Vs IM50 with pure dynamic driver can generate more bass is true. This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 4 2016, 01:23 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 01:21 PM) Usually talks can be how well of these. So... did you sell the IM50 or did you take it apart for experiments? Once you try it out the taste was different feels. IM50 is the pure dynamic drive vs this RM-535 dynamic drive are totally different, at center portion was made with matel piece. Vs IM50 with pure dynamic driver can generate more bass is true. |
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Should I send one pair of REMAX S1 to E1 - AKG for demo set, then you guys feel free can try it out
That's good idea right Since I had ordered extra set for backup used This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 4 2016, 01:35 PM |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 4 2016, 11:47 AM) oh god, kimsim. please brush up your english. i totally cannot understand the points that you are trying to convey. it might be easier to understand you if you just post in chinese or whatever your native language may be. He has made it to my ignore list. Not worth the effort replying. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 4 2016, 01:32 PM) Should I send one pair of REMAX S1 to E1 - AKG for demo set, then you guys feel free can try it out this is the craziest idea I have heardThat's good idea right Since I had ordered extra set for backup used business is business my friend, enough for your Remax story |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 4 2016, 05:46 PM) my Lime Ears Aether coming next week QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 4 2016, 06:33 PM) i think most people know what's the thing i got at canjam such i craved and adored what did you get from canjam?and a hd650 cable from forza audioworks, color series |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 5 2016, 09:47 AM) it has quite a good synergy to it, based on a live recording of joe bonamassa, the muddy wolf concert, it has a whole lot of equipments mix, guitar, harmonica, trumpets, pianos, vocals, background vocals, people cheering, keyboards and so much more, but i can hear them in separate when they hit their solo queue it doesnt give glaring trebles and big ass bass, everything is well balanced and not much skewed to any side. good old fashioned enjoyment for long hours without hitch |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 09:50 AM) it has quite a good synergy to it, based on a live recording of joe bonamassa, the muddy wolf concert, it has a whole lot of equipments mix, guitar, harmonica, trumpets, pianos, vocals, background vocals, people cheering, keyboards and so much more, but i can hear them in separate when they hit their solo queue But u heard it competitive with macaw GT100sit doesnt give glaring trebles and big ass bass, everything is well balanced and not much skewed to any side. good old fashioned enjoyment for long hours without hitch Try with comply T200 the sound has improve a lot This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 5 2016, 09:54 AM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 5 2016, 09:52 AM) i dont even know wtf is that macaw thinganyways, i tried with the t20 also, and earsonics em2 side by side, on that table, no other earsonic or rha item itself intrigued me more that the m750 itself |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 09:56 AM) i dont even know wtf is that macaw thing http://www.head-fi.org/t/771502/macaw-gt10...ressions-threadanyways, i tried with the t20 also, and earsonics em2 side by side, on that table, no other earsonic or rha item itself intrigued me more that the m750 itself SG here around selling around $100++ http://www.lendmeurears.com/macaw/ This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 5 2016, 10:01 AM |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 5 2016, 03:28 PM) Realistically, it's not in everyone's reach. As you know, people tend to go on a walkabout in midfi purgatory, instead of focusing on a single high end item. But yes, I find some high end gear remarkable in comparison, and a few even seem worth the cash. Superfi (ala the Orpheus) is fun to try, but will never be an option for 99% of the us. I appreciate their existence, as a proof of concept, and future source of trickle down technology for mere mortals |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 02:10 PM) im always impressed more on midfi than what superfi / master race is capable of, they can be very impressive if done right QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 5 2016, 03:28 PM) QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 5 2016, 03:36 PM) Realistically, it's not in everyone's reach. As you know, people tend to go on a walkabout in midfi purgatory, instead of focusing on a single high end item. But yes, I find some high end gear remarkable in comparison, and a few even seem worth the cash. As you can see. He made no mention of the price. But rather stated that he is more impressed with midfi products as opposed to hi end gear. Superfi (ala the Orpheus) is fun to try, but will never be an option for 99% of the us. I appreciate their existence, as a proof of concept, and future source of trickle down technology for mere mortals And I quote: "always impressed more on midfi than what superfi / master race is capable of" No mention of price. It only states that he is more impressed with midfi equipment and that midfi equipment is more capable than high end equipment. Which to me, isn't true. While it holds true that more expensive doesn't equal better. But high end equipment is more often than not, impressive. That is if you're not paying for the diamond dust that comes with it and paying more for the engineering of a product. But then, since he product already has a premium price because of its engineering; they would often use more premium materials and better craftsmanship etc. But simply stating that midfi products are more capable than high end products... That's a very long shot. |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 5 2016, 03:55 PM) Yes. I get what you're saying. And what you said is perfectly fine. My issue is what he said that midfi equipment is more capable and impressive than high end gear. Superb midfi gear can be considered punching above their weight class, rarely do you get exceptional value for high end gear, that's something to consider too, no? I consider my TH-X00 very special, and plan to hold on to it, even when I look to an endgame setup, for example. The key part of his statement is probably the "if done right" part, and I tend to agree. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 5 2016, 03:58 PM) Superb midfi gear can be considered punching above their weight class, rarely do you get exceptional value for high end gear, that's something to consider too, no? I consider my TH-X00 very special, and plan to hold on to it, even when I look to an endgame setup, for example. The key part of his statement is probably the "if done right" part, and I tend to agree. Yes. That's price to performance ratio and that's true and right what you said. But sheer perform wise. Hugh end gear more often than not is better. And the fact that he made no mention of price and said that midfi is more capable and impressive. That is what got me. In as much as some of us, myself included may be included to think that the more expensive the better it sounds. The same may hold true the other way around too. We need to stop listening with our wallets. If it's good it's good. If its bad it's bad. Price is another issue. Whether it's worth it or not is another matter. |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 5 2016, 04:03 PM) Yes. That's price to performance ratio and that's true and right what you said. Chill bro, different points of view are perfectly valid in different circumstances. And as I always believe, listen with your ears, choose based on your budget. No need to take a hobby so seriously eh? But sheer perform wise. Hugh end gear more often than not is better. And the fact that he made no mention of price and said that midfi is more capable and impressive. That is what got me. In as much as some of us, myself included may be included to think that the more expensive the better it sounds. The same may hold true the other way around too. We need to stop listening with our wallets. If it's good it's good. If its bad it's bad. Price is another issue. Whether it's worth it or not is another matter. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 5 2016, 04:05 PM) Chill bro, different points of view are perfectly valid in different circumstances. And as I always believe, listen with your ears, choose based on your budget. No need to take a hobby so seriously eh? Hahahaha. That statement really got me man. Haha. All good. I saw your items for sale. Going for the Stax009? Are they releasing a new flagship soon? |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 5 2016, 04:10 PM) Hahahaha. That statement really got me man. Haha. All good. I saw your items for sale. Going for the Stax009? Are they releasing a new flagship soon? Haven't talked to the Stax guys yet, trying to get some cash together first before contacting them. I'll find out, trust me For me, the Stax SR-009 comes closest to what I enjoy, and was the most remarkable among all the flagships (and I tried every one, believe me) I auditioned at Canjam. So for now, that's my choice. Unless I hear otherwise from them, going to go for it, and their own amp. Edit: Oh ya, also got distracted by a Hugo in the meantime, should be in my grubby hands soon This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 5 2016, 04:17 PM |
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selling my everything just for a mojo now, but things do seem a bit down
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 04:57 PM) my sales isnt very optimistic, all post item not sold, haiz.. Btw, you're welcome homeslice, got your back just now, yo. fun fact: i have sufficient to buy mojo but if i buy, i have 500 to use for a month only for march So basically your choice is between Mojo or Maggi for a month? Just man up and decide la, not so complicated mah |
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Anyone owned it or test before?
Earsonic S-EM9 Seem like not bad wow, sound better than Jupiter? Thanks |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 5 2016, 05:48 PM) Btw, you're welcome homeslice, got your back just now, yo. As a family man I'm also of two minds. Should take care of family first, Mojo will always be there.So basically your choice is between Mojo or Maggi for a month? Just man up and decide la, not so complicated mah On the other hand, if you don't take care of yourself first, where got mood to keep the family happy hahaha. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 5 2016, 05:55 PM) Anyone owned it or test before? I've read (didn't hear sorry) that you're better off getting Velvet instead bcos the improvement does not justify the price. Warm and bassy smooth sound sig. Jupiter is more towards neutral, with a slight bass boost and extended treble.Earsonic S-EM9 Seem like not bad wow, sound better than Jupiter? Thanks This post has been edited by ezekiel_77: Mar 5 2016, 08:05 PM |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 5 2016, 08:03 PM) I've read (didn't hear sorry) that you're better off getting Velvet instead bcos the improvement does not justify the price. Warm and bassy smooth sound sig. Jupiter is more towards neutral, with a slight bass boost and extended treble. Good to hear that, but in my mind still told me go for Jupiter or Angie 2 |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 5 2016, 08:00 PM) As a family man I'm also of two minds. Should take care of family first, Mojo will always be there. But, don't you already have a Mojo? Now if you were talking about Jupiter, or U12, etc, then maybe...On the other hand, if you don't take care of yourself first, where got mood to keep the family happy hahaha. QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 08:11 PM) You'll get no argument from me on that point |
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too many hardwares discussions, can we start talking about the soft part?
what is your must have song/album to fully utilise your gear? |
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Mar 5 2016, 08:47 PM) too many hardwares discussions, can we start talking about the soft part? I like Sessions from the 17th Ward, Amber Rubarth. Good mix of female vocals and strings, really shines on a good setup. Lots of companies seem to like this as a reference track as well, including Sennheiserwhat is your must have song/album to fully utilise your gear? Got my copy from HDtracks some time ago This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 5 2016, 09:17 PM |
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iAutogate the sound over impressive, I would highly recommended here.
Again for my recent shots with mojo Sorry at the moment i've had Remax Iem only with me now..due to poor setup This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 5 2016, 09:53 PM |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 5 2016, 08:40 PM) Time to grab mojo now..https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3886393 Just 2.2k only |
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you guys should try Diana Krall, her vocals are so thick and sexy
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this is my go to relaxation album, good luck trying to find this cause it took me a lot of effort
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BOOYAA, all thanks to kimsim, I'm getting myself my MOJO, yeehaaa
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 5 2016, 09:03 PM) agreeone of my favorite song to test out QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 5 2016, 09:16 PM) I like Sessions from the 17th Ward, Amber Rubarth. Good mix of female vocals and strings, really shines on a good setup. Lots of companies seem to like this as a reference track as well, including Sennheiser haven't hear before, will try to find it and listen to itGot my copy from HDtracks some time ago |
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Wow comes across with Dita 2.5mm balanced jack, if you guys try to convert it from 2.5 to 3.5mm the sq will be difference?
Thanks soli I never have a chance to play around with it, I have chance from my old Nokia Hp music series come with 2.5mm jack only |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 08:53 AM) Wow comes across with Dita 2.5mm balanced jack, if you guys try to convert it from 2.5 to 3.5mm the sq will be difference? any picture of the dita 2.5mm balanced jack Thanks soli I never have a chance to play around with it, I have chance from my old Nokia Hp music series come with 2.5mm jack only |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 08:53 AM) Wow comes across with Dita 2.5mm balanced jack, if you guys try to convert it from 2.5 to 3.5mm the sq will be difference? the way you phase your words as if Dita have a 2.5 balanced adapter jack Thanks soli I never have a chance to play around with it, I have chance from my old Nokia Hp music series come with 2.5mm jack only |
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Mar 6 2016, 01:11 PM) Not too sure, is original comes with 2.5mm jack then include 3.5mm adapter.Need to check with someone... I just saw in website only Accessories 3 Pairs Small Bore Tips S/M/L (sweeter highs) 3 Pairs Medium Bore Tips S/M/L (reference tuning) 3 Pairs Large Bore Tips S/M/L (airier highs) 1 Pair Double Flange Tips 1 Custom Flight Adapter 1 Custom 2.5mm TRRS to 3.5mm Adapter using The Truth Cable 1 Premium Leather Carrying Case 1 Casual Carrying Case This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 6 2016, 01:21 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 01:19 PM) Not too sure, is original comes with 2.5mm jack then include 3.5mm adapter. it is a short adapting cable which is NOT available separately as an accessory Need to check with someone... I just saw in website only Accessories 3 Pairs Small Bore Tips S/M/L (sweeter highs) 3 Pairs Medium Bore Tips S/M/L (reference tuning) 3 Pairs Large Bore Tips S/M/L (airier highs) 1 Pair Double Flange Tips 1 Custom Flight Adapter 1 Custom 2.5mm TRRS to 3.5mm Adapter using The Truth Cable 1 Premium Leather Carrying Case 1 Casual Carrying Case |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 01:19 PM) Not too sure, is original comes with 2.5mm jack then include 3.5mm adapter. The Dita Balanced with 2.5mm plug is for players like AK or Onkyo that has the 2.5mm balanced socket. In theory it cleans up the sound signal. In practice you might hear an improvement like bigger soundstage or better imaging, but this varies from person to person.Need to check with someone... I just saw in website only 1 Custom 2.5mm TRRS to 3.5mm Adapter using The Truth Cable If you use the adapter then it just goes back to the normal 3.5mm socket like in handphones or other players (you get the regular "unbalanced sound"). But then it'll be wasted bcos Dita made the Balanced specifically to take advantage of the 2.5mm balanced socket in AK players. If you want the normal 3.5mm plug just buy the cheaper Dita Truth (SGD1299). Dita Balanced goes for SGD1599 if not mistaken. This post has been edited by ezekiel_77: Mar 6 2016, 01:35 PM |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 01:34 PM) The Dita Balanced with 2.5mm plug is for players like AK or Onkyo that has the 2.5mm balanced socket. In theory it cleans up the sound signal. In practice you might hear an improvement like bigger soundstage or better imaging, but this varies from person to person. I guess not longer for mojo has 2.5mm balanced jack input.If you use the adapter then it just goes back to the normal 3.5mm socket like in handphones or other players (you get the regular "unbalanced sound"). But then it'll be wasted bcos Dita made the Balanced specifically to take advantage of the 2.5mm balanced socket in AK players. If you want the normal 3.5mm plug just buy the cheaper Dita Truth (SGD1299). Dita Balanced goes for SGD1599 if not mistaken. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 01:34 PM) The Dita Balanced with 2.5mm plug is for players like AK or Onkyo that has the 2.5mm balanced socket. In theory it cleans up the sound signal. In practice you might hear an improvement like bigger soundstage or better imaging, but this varies from person to person. Dita is damn goodIf you use the adapter then it just goes back to the normal 3.5mm socket like in handphones or other players (you get the regular "unbalanced sound"). But then it'll be wasted bcos Dita made the Balanced specifically to take advantage of the 2.5mm balanced socket in AK players. If you want the normal 3.5mm plug just buy the cheaper Dita Truth (SGD1299). Dita Balanced goes for SGD1599 if not mistaken. the only downside is that it does not come with detachable cable |
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Just realized why Dita with single dynamic driver can produces a great sound
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Mar 6 2016, 02:41 PM) My issue is the fit. Have to listen with both my fingers pressing on the housings for a good seal.I wonder ah, if I get the regular Truth, send to some cable-maker to terminate in a balanced 2.5mm TRRS plug, then I'd save a lot rather than get Balanced itself. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 03:03 PM) My issue is the fit. Have to listen with both my fingers pressing on the housings for a good seal. People do that with headphones all the time (well, figuratively), well with a different kind of connector, but same principle.I wonder ah, if I get the regular Truth, send to some cable-maker to terminate in a balanced 2.5mm TRRS plug, then I'd save a lot rather than get Balanced itself. |
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Another question to ask about shure 846 vs westone W60.. Anyone had try both before n compare side by side?
Sorry just interesting to know about 4 Ba vs 6 Ba drivers different Thanks |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 05:29 PM) But the number of drivers do not indicate or predict sound signature or quality. My JH13 has 6BA drivers too but I can bet you it sounds radically different from the W60. Layla has 12 drivers but I much prefer the JH13.Should let your ears be the judge and not worry too much about driver count. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 06:28 PM) But the number of drivers do not indicate or predict sound signature or quality. My JH13 has 6BA drivers too but I can bet you it sounds radically different from the W60. Layla has 12 drivers but I much prefer the JH13. it's all about the tunings, well tuned iem will be the bestShould let your ears be the judge and not worry too much about driver count. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 06:28 PM) But the number of drivers do not indicate or predict sound signature or quality. My JH13 has 6BA drivers too but I can bet you it sounds radically different from the W60. Layla has 12 drivers but I much prefer the JH13. So it coming Monday will go for Jupiter 4 Ba drivers should be better than my REMAX S1 Should let your ears be the judge and not worry too much about driver count. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 06:28 PM) But the number of drivers do not indicate or predict sound signature or quality. My JH13 has 6BA drivers too but I can bet you it sounds radically different from the W60. Layla has 12 drivers but I much prefer the JH13. Should let your ears be the judge and not worry too much about driver count. QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 6 2016, 06:36 PM) QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 06:44 PM) Fellas. Why do you even bother. |
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i need some pictorial guide on how to connect both dx90 and mojo together, they look like they use the same 3.5mm TS cable
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 6 2016, 03:03 PM) My issue is the fit. Have to listen with both my fingers pressing on the housings for a good seal. the price difference is because of the 2.5 trrs to 3.5 trs adapting cable which is expensive to produce.I wonder ah, if I get the regular Truth, send to some cable-maker to terminate in a balanced 2.5mm TRRS plug, then I'd save a lot rather than get Balanced itself. |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 6 2016, 07:49 PM) i need some pictorial guide on how to connect both dx90 and mojo together, they look like they use the same 3.5mm TS cable Bro how does the sq from ma750i with mojo now?any locals you know that has this, cause i dont have it Got bigger enhance, such as bass & detail else |
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QUOTE(big1 @ Mar 6 2016, 10:14 PM) anybody heard of this? recommended by e-earphone japan Dunno the sq how good of theseAuglamour R8 ( 4,500 yen only) http://www.e-earphone.jp/shopdetail/000000082828 The sound should be much better than mine S1 http://www.head-fi.org/t/784675/introducing-auglamour-ag-r8 R8 black is nicer , but I'll prefer the R1S cause look like Dita design This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 6 2016, 10:29 PM |
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QUOTE(big1 @ Mar 6 2016, 10:14 PM) anybody heard of this? recommended by e-earphone japan I actually have. It's in Aliexpress sold by some Chinese earphone shops. Price about USD30. Haven't heard this one in particular, read that it's warm and smooth. But doesn't reach the technical ability of better-known Chines brands eg. VSonic and Ostry. Good to buy if you want something good-looking and disposable.Auglamour R8 ( 4,500 yen only) http://www.e-earphone.jp/shopdetail/000000082828 Then there are some around the USD100 region that has some attention by Head-Fi and has a loyal following. Eg. LZ-A2, DQSM, HCK-A2... weird names, but you can read about them in Head-Fi. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 6 2016, 11:17 PM) Yup, my pal has the Trinity Delta 2BA+1DD hybrid. Good V-shaped sig for its price. But mids sound too hollow to me, and I think the best universal hybrid is the FLC8.Atlas should be an improvement. Still awaiting more impressions. |
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Any of y'all buy stuff from the US like me, check out this crazy link:
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Dunno works with this or not, cause android & iOS no problem for micro USB.
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 06:44 AM) Any of y'all buy stuff from the US like me, check out this crazy link: USD1400 is a steal but I skip Got it from headfi, $1400 new for AK240 |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 06:44 AM) Any of y'all buy stuff from the US like me, check out this crazy link: Ringgit is 4.06 over the weekend no better time than now.Got it from headfi, $1400 new for AK240 But me is happy. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 7 2016, 07:57 AM) AK I skip in general Just helping out any here who'd be interested. One correction, apparently it's open box, so the cheapest new is still Massdrop, at $1719 |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 7 2016, 08:45 AM) Just serious last time you bought how much, when it is new? I got it 2nd hand around rm 350 I think... no box just the iem driver and an old ES8 cable. That time is after amazon crazy black friday sales for TF10, a big prize slashed.I saw one used 2nd hand set still selling around $280 sgd Now I think it should be around SGD 150, depend on the condition, SGD 280 seems too high to me. |
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Mar 7 2016, 08:57 AM) I got it 2nd hand around rm 350 I think... no box just the iem driver and an old ES8 cable. That time is after amazon crazy black friday sales for TF10, a big prize slashed. Ok nvm, I will search sometime again.Now I think it should be around SGD 150, depend on the condition, SGD 280 seems too high to me. My Wishlist : Tf10 Flc8s Trinity atlas |
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Mar 7 2016, 09:25 AM) I tried every tips lol, original UE, comply, spin fit, Sony, JVC etc. Ya cause due to from ear kernel cantilever out to hold by eartips only, just accidently pull the cable would be fall drop.end up my best fit is Sony tips m-size But new hybrid Sony IEM was design the same type too |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 7 2016, 09:31 AM) Ya cause due to from ear kernel cantilever out to hold by eartips only, just accidently pull the cable would be fall drop. Yes the TF10 sticks out like two bolts from your ears bcos of the housing. Same goes for Sony XBA-H3 which I had. Loved the sound but hated the fit. Changing tips weren't beneficial either.But new hybrid Sony IEM was design the same type too Eh so fast changed targets? From Jupiter and Angie 2 become FLC8S and Atlas? Put your money on FLC8S. Worth every cent. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:39 AM) Yes the TF10 sticks out like two bolts from your ears bcos of the housing. Same goes for Sony XBA-H3 which I had. Loved the sound but hated the fit. Changing tips weren't beneficial either. So serious? Eh so fast changed targets? From Jupiter and Angie 2 become FLC8S and Atlas? Put your money on FLC8S. Worth every cent. Tonight I just plan go down to connect-it to grab Jupiter |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 7 2016, 09:41 AM) Personally, when I listened to Jupiter, I thought it was ngam ngam worth the money.But when I listened to FLC8, I thought it should be worth double. It can nearly touch SE846 level. Treble and soundstage better. Bass and mids still SE846 better. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:47 AM) Personally, when I listened to Jupiter, I thought it was ngam ngam worth the money. Wow I can't said anything nowBut when I listened to FLC8, I thought it should be worth double. It can nearly touch SE846 level. Treble and soundstage better. Bass and mids still SE846 better. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:51 AM) Sounds like I'm hyping it haha, sorry. Should let your ears be the judge. Seem like I'm really joint the great thread of the day and learnt more on audiophile I lent it to a friend in January, he said he'll return it during Chinese New Year. Until now he's still listening to it, don't want to let go of it lol. Very appreciated you guys helping a lot here ) Ok later go an order from here http://www.lendmeurears.com/flc-technology/ Since can save a lot, just when u have time visit SG here then we go sit and buy for lunch This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 7 2016, 10:06 AM |
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Yes!!
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 08:16 AM) AK I skip in general Just helping out any here who'd be interested. One correction, apparently it's open box, so the cheapest new is still Massdrop, at $1719 AK240 is a bit of outdated, now everyone is talking on AK380 and AK320.But the price of AK is a high sky to me |
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Anyway if your have mint condition of flc8s wanna let go, can pm me for your great offer
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 7 2016, 12:55 PM) AK240 is a bit of outdated, now everyone is talking on AK380 and AK320. If I see any deals on the 3xx players, I'll be sure to share it as well. For me they're totally not worth the cash, but I know lots of people are interested, at least can help save some cash You want to talk of outdated, still got lots of people using the 1xx series today alsoBut the price of AK is a high sky to me Btw, just got my Hugo earlier today This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 7 2016, 01:52 PM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 01:50 PM) If I see any deals on the 3xx players, I'll be sure to share it as well. For me they're totally not worth the cash, but I know lots of people are interested, at least can help save some cash huiyo!! Chord Hugo!! Btw, just got my Hugo earlier today I still remember my first impression of connecting Hugo with my HD600, the amount of details it bring to me, made me almost want to buy it. BTW, you plan to use Hugo to connect to your IEM? |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 7 2016, 01:53 PM) huiyo!! Chord Hugo!! Both, yes. It's semi-portable, so eventually will be taking it with me when I travel as well (as opposed to ultra portable, can just stick it in my pocket whenever I leave the house). Having fun with it so far, don't think I'll regret it at all. I still remember my first impression of connecting Hugo with my HD600, the amount of details it bring to me, made me almost want to buy it. BTW, you plan to use Hugo to connect to your IEM? Just waiting for the line out cable I ordered for my DAP to finally arrive, so in the meantime it will be sitting at home together with my full-sized headphones. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 02:02 PM) Both, yes. It's semi-portable, so eventually will be taking it with me when I travel as well (as opposed to ultra portable, can just stick it in my pocket whenever I leave the house). Having fun with it so far, don't think I'll regret it at all. What DAP you use? currently I am hunting for DAP after sold my AK100II Just waiting for the line out cable I ordered for my DAP to finally arrive, so in the meantime it will be sitting at home together with my full-sized headphones. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 7 2016, 02:14 PM) If I was in the market today, probably would go with the Onkyo DP-X1 (since I already have Hugo), but I've been using my Sony ZX2 for over a year now and still love it. The Opus#1 also is not bad, but not full Android.This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 7 2016, 02:21 PM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 02:20 PM) If I was in the market today, probably would go with the Onkyo DP-X1 (since I already have Hugo), but I've been using my Sony ZX2 for over a year now and still love it. The Opus#1 also is not bad, but not full Android. ZX2 is good, but I seem to have problem when plugging in microsd card with E1 personal demo unit, not sure you have that problem or not.I may give a try of Opus#1, but when surfing their webpage, they seem to have more product coming soon, which mainly using sabre ES9018k2M and ES9018 DAC There are quite a lot of comments from both good and bad sides regarding Onlyo DP-X1, but I still need to listen to it before I place PO. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 06:44 AM) Any of y'all buy stuff from the US like me, check out this crazy link: Thanks for the heads up. Hmmm, Beach Camera isn't actually B&H and reputable for the wrong reasons.Got it from headfi, $1400 new for AK240 QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 7 2016, 01:50 PM) Woow Congrats. I'm actually looking for one. You got yours pre-loved or brand new? |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 7 2016, 02:29 PM) ZX2 is good, but I seem to have problem when plugging in microsd card with E1 personal demo unit, not sure you have that problem or not. Never had that issue here. One annoying thing is you need to choose which microSD card to load at a time, it won't present both when you connect to PC. But I gradually fill it up one card at a time, so no problems. I may give a try of Opus#1, but when surfing their webpage, they seem to have more product coming soon, which mainly using sabre ES9018k2M and ES9018 DAC There are quite a lot of comments from both good and bad sides regarding Onlyo DP-X1, but I still need to listen to it before I place PO. The Opus guys website is still messy la, they need to get it sorted. I asked them at Canjam if they'll have a full Android DAP in future, seems like they're working on it. QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 7 2016, 02:30 PM) Thanks for the heads up. Hmmm, Beach Camera isn't actually B&H and reputable for the wrong reasons. Yes, I know they're different, have bought stuff from B&H few times in the past. Didn't know there were any problems with Beach, care to elaborate? Woow Congrats. I'm actually looking for one. You got yours pre-loved or brand new? And got mine used, in good condition, got a few items on my radar, so need to save where I can |
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QUOTE(big1 @ Mar 6 2016, 10:14 PM) anybody heard of this? recommended by e-earphone japan i have this with me. the built quality is fantastic and its perfect for outdoor sports but i have problem with the fitting. just couldn't get the right tip for my ear. a lot of ppl are facing the same problem.Auglamour R8 ( 4,500 yen only) http://www.e-earphone.jp/shopdetail/000000082828 if you are looking for china IEM, there are many others out there that you could try. I also have the LZ-A2 which headfi members compares it to the sennheiser IE800. Extremely good hybrid for the price but i still prefer my modded JVC FX-1200. the original FX-1200 is just horrible as the bass is big and bloated. i always like single dynamic driver compares to hybrid of BA. i always find it more coherent with better bass response. if you are interested in the R8, you can come look for me to test it out. |
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Just got it now, the sound not really impressed
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Short feedback on Angie.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 7 2016, 11:17 PM) Short feedback on Angie. Angie doesn't wow you at first, but the details are all there. Take a bit of time to appreciate the sound.Listening few song now, feeling much better, needs to adjusted on EQ and set to 9 o'clock bass, the sound signatures not that bad. The sound slightly warmed, bass not that bad, mids balanced n treble quite clarity. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 7 2016, 11:19 PM) Angie doesn't wow you at first, but the details are all there. Take a bit of time to appreciate the sound. Correctly, unlike my 1st RHA T20 the first song feeling was "wow" damn dynamics driver.Between the Angie quite good for song details and sound quality as well In Honest Remax S1 sq really appreciated and details as well too, if never asked what's the brand ppls still getting confuse that model was expensive IEM. This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 7 2016, 11:33 PM |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 7 2016, 11:21 PM) I like how ultra budget and summitfi can go toe to toe any day too. Its like Ali and a boxer from a local club can go all 12 rounds with still no winner. Some call it fight night. I say it's hype night. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 7 2016, 11:17 PM) Short feedback on Angie. if u dun rike sell me cheap cheapListening few song now, feeling much better, needs to adjusted on EQ and set to 9 o'clock bass, the sound signatures not that bad. The sound slightly warmed, bass not that bad, mids balanced n treble quite clarity. |
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Seem like my comply T200 deeply than ori foam tips
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seems like you're really on a roll. Keep spending like a king
Btw, don't think there ever is a "best" IEM. And almost all IEM that I've known to be flagship level in 2014 have replacements or better alternatives. And I believe there will going to be even better IEMs later. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:22 AM) seems like you're really on a roll. Keep spending like a king :thumbsup: Anyway just like my hobbies for DSLRBtw, don't think there ever is a "best" IEM. And almost all IEM that I've known to be flagship level in 2014 have replacements or better alternatives. And I believe there will going to be even better IEMs later. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 8 2016, 09:52 AM) Just curious have any good IEM model for intro to me? Thought you already have Remax, bought Angie some more why still need new IEM? My budget around $2500 sgd The sound must be "wow" Thanks Think about what you want first la, otherwise you'll never be satisfied. Personally, you willing to spend that much, try the Shure KSE1500. If you like it, worth saving up a bit more. If you want to try more stuff go to stores, meet ups and demo. Buying things you're curious about is not the way. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 8 2016, 09:52 AM) Just curious have any good IEM model for intro to me? If you'd like to spend that much, might as well go custom.My budget around $2500 sgd The sound must be "wow" Thanks At least then you can go Jaben or E1 or MS test one by one until you get the "wow", then only order. Among customs ah, the one nearly gerenti everyone like is the Noble K10. But I don't have it. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 10:30 AM) Thought you already have Remax, bought Angie some more why still need new IEM? You can also recommend him some of the rarer Unique Melodies. He liked the Merlin I think. I heard the Legacy and thought it tapaus everything else UM had. But I didn't listen to the Maverick which had really really good feedback from some headfiers.Think about what you want first la, otherwise you'll never be satisfied. Personally, you willing to spend that much, try the Shure KSE1500. If you like it, worth saving up a bit more. If you want to try more stuff go to stores, meet ups and demo. Buying things you're curious about is not the way. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:22 AM) seems like you're really on a roll. Keep spending like a king I am waiting for the Beyerdynamics version of T8ie, if Beyer wants to make itBtw, don't think there ever is a "best" IEM. And almost all IEM that I've known to be flagship level in 2014 have replacements or better alternatives. And I believe there will going to be even better IEMs later. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:37 AM) If you'd like to spend that much, might as well go custom. U're rightAt least then you can go Jaben or E1 or MS test one by one until you get the "wow", then only order. Among customs ah, the one nearly gerenti everyone like is the Noble K10. But I don't have it. Maybe this is the one |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:33 AM) I agree. The first batch is known to have weave issues. I can only assume the second batch onwards Jerry himself stood behind the weavers. "You have one job." QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 10:43 AM) Soon... QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 8 2016, 10:45 AM) That is an absolute beauty The most memorable one is the starry night wizard edition. Dark blue sky with stars all over engraved on the housing. Majestic beauty. QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 8 2016, 10:48 AM) i met the wiz himself at canjam, quite an aged guy, but his piece brings awesome design to a whole new level Yep. It has successfully brands itself into an aesthetic artwork apart from being the audio paradise. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:53 AM) But still lower than AK Layla 2 right Only1 thing I need go to Digi sound http://www.uniquemelody.co/digisound/ This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 8 2016, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:39 AM) You can also recommend him some of the rarer Unique Melodies. He liked the Merlin I think. I heard the Legacy and thought it tapaus everything else UM had. But I didn't listen to the Maverick which had really really good feedback from some headfiers. For UM,the Japanese editions specifically, nothing beats the Maverick for cost/performance (based on my experience). If you really want to go for the top, it's the Mason, and the custom versions, of course. Only thing is I don't have my Maverick anymore, and it's not easy to find those to audition before buying. Want to give it a go, can contact me QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 10:43 AM) Hopefully it will be better, the current version wasn't that remarkable to me. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:52 AM) Oh it is haha. Biggest I've ever had. Seal ain't a problem, comfort isn't too bad either, but when you forget about it and lie on your side, habis. So lesson learnt, anything larger than 4 drivers, consider customs. Ya lo, few JH universals I tried need to be plugged inside my ear deeply due to their longer nozzle.....really uncomfortableThat is why I am quite impressed with SE846 as how they manage the small size housing with 4 drivers inside. But the down side of se846 is easily affected by type of eartips and cables |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 8 2016, 10:48 AM) i met the wiz himself at canjam, quite an aged guy, but his piece brings awesome design to a whole new level Experienced guy, there's a long story to why he goes by FullCircle as well, been through a lot. QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:37 AM) The K10 is enough for me to give the portable setup a break for now But couldn't justify the Prestige line la, just normal Wizard reprint. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:07 AM) Experienced guy, there's a long story to why he goes by FullCircle as well, been through a lot. Heir Audio, betrayal, Noble, sabotage, K10... more or less. Headfi won't tell the full story but that's the gist of it. Don't know what he's like IRL but he's really been through a lot, and I respect his standing among CIEM brands today. Some of his wizzard designs are to die for.The K10 is enough for me to give the portable setup a break for now But couldn't justify the Prestige line la, just normal Wizard reprint. Well, the rare tree died anyway. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:58 AM) Nice ah? At Canjam I listened to the Oriolus, then Dita Truth, then T8ie. Sounds balanced but lacked air. But then these are all 10-minute impressions. I dont know yet, no news from Beyer yet.Oriolus is quite amazing, female vocals impressed me most. I am no friend of DIta, haha. AKT8ie, hmmm, hard to explain, it is suitable for classical, instrument and OST, but for pops songs, it is not as good as SE846. If you have listened few Beyer cans before, you will find that it is not the typical Beyer sound, that is my opinion. QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:03 AM) People may see it as replacement to IE800 or K3003But both above IEMs I havent listened before |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:10 AM) Heir Audio, betrayal, Noble, sabotage, K10... more or less. Headfi won't tell the full story but that's the gist of it. Don't know what he's like IRL but he's really been through a lot, and I respect his standing among CIEM brands today. Some of his wizzard designs are to die for. Got lots of the extended details from my chats with him before. Don't forget saboteurs hijacking the headfi thread as well His background is very humble actually, so even more remarkable.Well, the rare tree died anyway. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 11:12 AM) I take it you didn't make it to Canjam? But those two aren't too rare, audio stores should have them in stock. Anyone seen the AKT8IE for sale in Malaysia yet?This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 8 2016, 11:17 AM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:12 AM) Got lots of the extended details from my chats with him before. Don't forget saboteurs hijacking the headfi thread as well His background is very humble actually, so even more remarkable. I remember the story where Wizard built a 20-driver IEM just to prove that it can be done. Maybe KS can give him a call and order one of those with all his moolah hahaha. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:16 AM) I remember the story where Wizard built a 20-driver IEM just to prove that it can be done. Maybe KS can give him a call and order one of those with all his moolah hahaha. There's another where someone contacted him and asked him to teach their manufacturing team how to tune IEMs, he asked for over 500k USD in advance, and they never bothered him again |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:16 AM) I take it you didn't make it to Canjam? But those two aren't too rare, audio stores should have them in stock. Anyone seen the AKT8IE for sale in Malaysia yet? Nope, I dont go to CanJam. For AKT8ie, you can buy through E1 uncleI am eager to try W60, IE800 and K3003 |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 11:24 AM) Nope, I dont go to CanJam. For AKT8ie, you can buy through E1 uncle Nah, just wondering if it's in the market, that's all. I'm happy with my K10 for now, don't think I'm missing anything in a similar price range. I am eager to try W60, IE800 and K3003 And you should try to be there next year, the best part is being able to compare everything you've been curious about in a very short space of time. Day 1 was my general audition, Day 2 I was refining my shortlist to decide what's actually worth the money |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:28 AM) 2-3 years ago it was just the SE846, IE800 and K3003 as TOTL universals. Yup, these 3 units. Now is the world of chaosSee how fast this segment is growing. QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:30 AM) Nah, just wondering if it's in the market, that's all. I'm happy with my K10 for now, don't think I'm missing anything in a similar price range. Lets see any KLIAV show for this year, I went there last year.And you should try to be there next year, the best part is being able to compare everything you've been curious about in a very short space of time. Day 1 was my general audition, Day 2 I was refining my shortlist to decide what's actually worth the money I am eager to see you unbox Stax Sr009/002 or Sennheiser Orpheus or KSE1500 |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 11:35 AM) Yup, these 3 units. Now is the world of chaos Working on the 1st one (009) right now, the 2nd one I need to sell a kidney first, so no, the 3rd one didn't justify the price, for me. But ask me again in 6 months Lets see any KLIAV show for this year, I went there last year. I am eager to see you unbox Stax Sr009/002 or Sennheiser Orpheus or KSE1500 |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 11:36 AM) Working on the 1st one (009) right now, the 2nd one I need to sell a kidney first, so no, the 3rd one didn't justify the price, for me. But ask me again in 6 months Haha, please do so, and bring to public transport friendly audio stores (E1@ Sungei Wang or Jaben@NuSentral) to let us try BTW, have you tried the new portable amplifier from SHure at Canjam? QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 8 2016, 11:37 AM) SHould say BUY BOTH |
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Wow so many post, now to become kse1500, I dun like it actually, cause nothing can be built-in amp together.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 8 2016, 12:09 PM) Wow so many post, now to become kse1500, I dun like it actually, cause nothing can be built-in amp together. I think your analogy is a bit invalid, if like that the new Orpheus by Sennheiser also not good la, can't be used with any other amp currently. Just like DSLR if non detachable lens to become no fun at all That's why I asked you earlier, you know what you actually want or not? Very surprised after spending so much money on an Angie, immediately want to buy something else. Better go to a few good stores and try out everything you're curious about first. Edit: Btw, that's also why I only rely on reviews to a certain extent, in the end if it doesn't suit my tastes, 100 5-star reviews won't change my mind. Best to trust your own ears. This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 8 2016, 12:25 PM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 12:24 PM) I think your analogy is a bit invalid, if like that the new Orpheus by Sennheiser also not good la, can't be used with any other amp currently. Collect still trust on ear, any good IEM sq still on personal preferences That's why I asked you earlier, you know what you actually want or not? Very surprised after spending so much money on an Angie, immediately want to buy something else. Better go to a few good stores and try out everything you're curious about first. Edit: Btw, that's also why I only rely on reviews to a certain extent, in the end if it doesn't suit my tastes, 100 5-star reviews won't change my mind. Best to trust your own ears. Anyway my target yesterday on Jupiter or Angie 2 end of nth. Just found the price still under my budget then get it 1st. Ya correct way try & test more to be have more idea too |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 12:51 PM) Haha, you should hear the Chord Dave + HE-1000, that's even more crazy. But out of my budget for sure, so didn't go back to try more than once. Looking at the Dave design, probably can consume my annual salary liao HE1000 is amazing headphone, it handles all sort of music genre very well. I guess the amplifier part is the most difficult to pair |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 12:55 PM) Looking at the Dave design, probably can consume my annual salary liao Have to agree with the HE1k. It was magical sounding. Didn't even dare to ask what amp Stars Picker used to pair with it.HE1000 is amazing headphone, it handles all sort of music genre very well. I guess the amplifier part is the most difficult to pair |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 8 2016, 08:49 AM) Oh, but they say you must take the road less travelled... QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:28 AM) 2-3 years ago it was just the SE846, IE800 and K3003 as TOTL universals. Hmmm, out of the 3, I've only tested the SE846 briefly in HK but that was a while back. I've actually wanted to test the IE800 for the longest time but that never happened. Keep hearing a few people saying it has a very close semblance to the full size HD800 sound stage / air.See how fast this segment is growing. |
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 8 2016, 03:24 PM) Oh, but they say you must take the road less travelled... They have the entire Sennheiser line at the concept store in BSC. Spent some time giving it an extended listen there, some decent source gear too.Hmmm, out of the 3, I've only tested the SE846 briefly in HK but that was a while back. I've actually wanted to test the IE800 for the longest time but that never happened. Keep hearing a few people saying it has a very close semblance to the full size HD800 sound stage / air. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 8 2016, 03:37 PM) They have the entire Sennheiser line at the concept store in BSC. Spent some time giving it an extended listen there, some decent source gear too. Thanks. I believe when I asked that same question a while back, Joshua pointed me to BSC. Just cannot get my lazy legs to venture out or unshackle myself from family duties. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 8 2016, 03:59 PM) YEs, they used audio GD master amp to drive HE1000 i'd have to agree. the pairing sounds organic and smooth but lack certain oomph. i actually preferred pairing it with my liquid carbon.But to be honest, I found the sound of HE1000 coming from that setup was not "clean" enough, probably need to to try different amplifier combination |
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Highly recommended song from Linying
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anyone has an extra band that is normally used to band together 2 devices? i until now still dont have one
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Mar 9 2016, 12:06 AM) ahem... band with a Mojo? Wow. So 90's.wrist band, depends on the thickness also |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 8 2016, 08:48 PM) I'm actually looking for a DAC. Have you tried the Mojo against the Master 7 with the LC?I've not heard the Master 7 and not sure if I like the sound. If I do, I'll probably settle for the DAC-19 instead. QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 8 2016, 10:46 PM) anyone has an extra band that is normally used to band together 2 devices? i until now still dont have one Tell you what... I'll send you an ALO Audio one and you send me your Mojo in exchange. |
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 9 2016, 12:34 AM) I'm actually looking for a DAC. Have you tried the Mojo against the Master 7 with the LC? yeah i did AB between Mojo against Master 7 with LC. the balanced/SE input switch makes it so easy to do a AB. just gotta level the volume. using HEK, i find the Master 7 to be slightly cleaner & transparent, with tighter bass. mojo is slightly warm, but able to drive the HEK with ample of power in reserve (i don't remember the volume level/color though).I've not heard the Master 7 and not sure if I like the sound. If I do, I'll probably settle for the DAC-19 instead. Tell you what... I'll send you an ALO Audio one and you send me your Mojo in exchange. haha, no way i'm selling/trading my mojo. in fact, my intention last Sunday at Stars Picker was to audition and get a balanced DAC for my LC. among my tested DACs were the master7, matrix mini-i pro, aune s16. i can't afford the master 7 so it was just for the heck of it. after testing for hours, i gave up. mojo beats matrix & aune hands down. while the master 7 edges out in terms of cleanness and transparency, it still cannot justify the >10k cost. i understand that i'm at the point where i'll get exponential diminishing return as i move up the cost ladder. so for now, the search goes on... |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 9 2016, 08:31 AM) yeah i did AB between Mojo against Master 7 with LC. the balanced/SE input switch makes it so easy to do a AB. just gotta level the volume. using HEK, i find the Master 7 to be slightly cleaner & transparent, with tighter bass. mojo is slightly warm, but able to drive the HEK with ample of power in reserve (i don't remember the volume level/color though). budget >10k HugoTThaha, no way i'm selling/trading my mojo. in fact, my intention last Sunday at Stars Picker was to audition and get a balanced DAC for my LC. among my tested DACs were the master7, matrix mini-i pro, aune s16. i can't afford the master 7 so it was just for the heck of it. after testing for hours, i gave up. mojo beats matrix & aune hands down. while the master 7 edges out in terms of cleanness and transparency, it still cannot justify the >10k cost. i understand that i'm at the point where i'll get exponential diminishing return as i move up the cost ladder. so for now, the search goes on... budget <10k Hugo BTW, you dont try Yulong DA8 at Stars Picker? IT is quite musical signature, and it has balanced out |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 9 2016, 08:36 AM) budget >10k HugoTT Also, budget > 50k Dave budget <10k Hugo |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 09:15 AM) Orpheus 2 is targeted at around 50k USD la, suddenly became infinite? You think it's that awesome ah? Think of it this way. The best headphones in the world can be had for the price of just an entry level Bimmer.We're in the sane hobby. Car collectors, Swiss watch collectors now those are mad hahaha. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:23 AM) Think of it this way. The best headphones in the world can be had for the price of just an entry level Bimmer. You're miss out najib has money collector.We're in the sane hobby. Car collectors, Swiss watch collectors now those are mad hahaha. Like those woman collecter too. |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 9 2016, 08:31 AM) yeah i did AB between Mojo against Master 7 with LC. the balanced/SE input switch makes it so easy to do a AB. just gotta level the volume. using HEK, i find the Master 7 to be slightly cleaner & transparent, with tighter bass. mojo is slightly warm, but able to drive the HEK with ample of power in reserve (i don't remember the volume level/color though). Thanks for the reply. Your findings are very useful for me.haha, no way i'm selling/trading my mojo. in fact, my intention last Sunday at Stars Picker was to audition and get a balanced DAC for my LC. among my tested DACs were the master7, matrix mini-i pro, aune s16. i can't afford the master 7 so it was just for the heck of it. after testing for hours, i gave up. mojo beats matrix & aune hands down. while the master 7 edges out in terms of cleanness and transparency, it still cannot justify the >10k cost. i understand that i'm at the point where i'll get exponential diminishing return as i move up the cost ladder. so for now, the search goes on... Anyway, why didn't you try the DAC-19? Much cheaper than the Master 7 but it's SE only. I believe the balanced input from the DAC to the LC is not important because the LC has a phase splitter that converts SE input from the DAC to balanced signal. I'll repost what Dr. Cavalli mentioned earlier about this on Head-Fi... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « But then again the discussion about a good SE DAC vs balanced DAC depends on how good the SE DAC to begin with. This post has been edited by jchue73: Mar 9 2016, 03:44 PM |
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Anyone has listened T8ie before?
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 9 2016, 04:06 PM) Anyway I've found dynamic driver more impressive, just the song details not as BA driver.Same as your m750 also much impressed than some IEMs selling higher than m750 How does your mojo now? Already test "kau kau" ha ha |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 9 2016, 03:52 PM) One of the items in the initial list of things to try, but the AKT8IE didn't impress me, nothing remarkable about the sound signature, so didn't make it to my shortlist of repeat auditions on day 2. Competent, seemed well built, but forgettable. |
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 9 2016, 03:43 PM) Thanks for the reply. Your findings are very useful for me. yeah i know that. that's why i know i could AB between those DACs vs Mojo reliably. tbh, i don't find much difference between them. maybe that's just me or my hearing limitations. maybe my headphones are not resolving enough to let me tell the difference. there are subtle difference, but not day and night. definitely not a huge improvement to warrant the dough. so for now i'm happy with Mojo SE out to the LC.Anyway, why didn't you try the DAC-19? Much cheaper than the Master 7 but it's SE only. I believe the balanced input from the DAC to the LC is not important because the LC has a phase splitter that converts SE input from the DAC to balanced signal. I'll repost what Dr. Cavalli mentioned earlier about this on Head-Fi... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « But then again the discussion about a good SE DAC vs balanced DAC depends on how good the SE DAC to begin with. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 04:46 PM) One of the items in the initial list of things to try, but the AKT8IE didn't impress me, nothing remarkable about the sound signature, so didn't make it to my shortlist of repeat auditions on day 2. Competent, seemed well built, but forgettable. Any models on CanJam after you tried and feel it very impressed for your next Wishlist.Just for IEM only. |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 9 2016, 04:59 PM) yeah i know that. that's why i know i could AB between those DACs vs Mojo reliably. tbh, i don't find much difference between them. maybe that's just me or my hearing limitations. maybe my headphones are not resolving enough to let me tell the difference. there are subtle difference, but not day and night. definitely not a huge improvement to warrant the dough. so for now i'm happy with Mojo SE out to the LC. Yeah, that's why I'm also tempted to go the Mojo route. Others may be slightly better but perhaps my ears and head gears would not be able to keep up with any noticeable changes to better sound. |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 05:15 PM) Liked the Shure KSE1500, but not sure about the price. Other than that, not really, was just getting used to my new K10 at the time too, so few come close Ur new k10 was CIEM right? Nice fitting, latest model for k10u just don't like the design, very old fashion design. If going for CIEM red woods wow cool, to be the collection IEM as well This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 9 2016, 05:35 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 9 2016, 05:35 PM) Ur new k10 was CIEM right? CIEM, but not Prestige, so no crazy woods. They look awesome, but don't think they sound better than regular customs, couldn't justify the extra cost.Nice fitting, latest model for k10u just don't like the design, very old fashion design. If going for CIEM red woods wow cool, to be the collection IEM as well |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 07:57 PM) CIEM, but not Prestige, so no crazy woods. They look awesome, but don't think they sound better than regular customs, couldn't justify the extra cost. So far I found it really crazy pretty nice like a woman for prestige woods series Really attracted me. But still keep up my saving now lol This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 9 2016, 08:04 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 9 2016, 05:02 PM) Any models on CanJam after you tried and feel it very impressed for your next Wishlist. +1 FLC8SJust for IEM only. +1 Jupiter I would also say Dita Truth, if you get the fit right. Delicate, airy and spacious. And Oriolus. Very nice shimmer and exciting sound. T8ie I felt was ok only, but sounds a bit congested next to all the above. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 08:04 PM) +1 FLC8S But you had flc8 not so excited already, maybe you can plan to get Jupiter, if don't like n sell for me +1 Jupiter I would also say Dita Truth, if you get the fit right. Delicate, airy and spacious. And Oriolus. Very nice shimmer and exciting sound. T8ie I felt was ok only, but sounds a bit congested next to all the above. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 08:04 PM) +1 FLC8S What was your feedback about the KSE1500? +1 Jupiter I would also say Dita Truth, if you get the fit right. Delicate, airy and spacious. And Oriolus. Very nice shimmer and exciting sound. T8ie I felt was ok only, but sounds a bit congested next to all the above. QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 08:01 PM) The way I look at it, it's similar to Sennheiser and their Orpheus 2. Reputed to be the best at their niche (SQ for the Senn, aesthetics + SQ for the Prestige K10s), so basically it's worth whatever they charge. Since no competitors come close, there's no actual replacement product to compete on price.For now, it's up to them what they want to charge, if there's an actual replacement in the market, then it might actually get cheaper. For me, I know my priority is always sound, but my budget isn't limitless, so no can do. If I win the lottery, I have at least 2 things to buy This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 9 2016, 08:14 PM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 08:13 PM) What was your feedback about the KSE1500? if it's the lottery jackpot, i would personally have Sennheiser carry the Orpheus 2 straight to my doorstepThe way I look at it, it's similar to Sennheiser and their Orpheus 2. Reputed to be the best at their niche (SQ for the Senn, aesthetics + SQ for the Prestige K10s), so basically it's worth whatever they charge. Since no competitors come close, there's no actual replacement product to compete on price. For now, it's up to them what they want to charge, if there's an actual replacement in the market, then it might actually get cheaper. For me, I know my priority is always sound, but my budget isn't limitless, so no can do. If I win the lottery, I have at least 2 things to buy |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 08:13 PM) What was your feedback about the KSE1500? KSE? Good, but slightly too revealing/trebly. Tame it just a bit and it's wonderful.The way I look at it, it's similar to Sennheiser and their Orpheus 2. Reputed to be the best at their niche (SQ for the Senn, aesthetics + SQ for the Prestige K10s), so basically it's worth whatever they charge. Since no competitors come close, there's no actual replacement product to compete on price. For now, it's up to them what they want to charge, if there's an actual replacement in the market, then it might actually get cheaper. For me, I know my priority is always sound, but my budget isn't limitless, so no can do. If I win the lottery, I have at least 2 things to buy And cut the price in half lol. You're right about the market leaders... they dictate, others follow. I see Empire Ears experimenting with woods and gold too, but nothing at Wizard level yet. Link here. This post has been edited by ezekiel_77: Mar 9 2016, 08:35 PM |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 9 2016, 08:17 PM) i did stop by, have a chat with the maker and tried them out, they just weren't up to scale yet in performances, but they did bring along linum bax, music and superbax Linum cables nice mou? They are interesting since the specs mention they add output impedance as well, like 1.5 to 4 ohm. Wonder if other cables do the same. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 08:32 PM) Linum cables nice mou? They are interesting since the specs mention they add output impedance as well, like 1.5 to 4 ohm. Wonder if other cables do the same. it's thin, doesnt yellow, even if you do you cant freaking see it anyways, and it has memory, if you drop it from hand, it will coil itself (if you coil it and keep it)it's quite a technological phenom, but can be annoying at times too i had 1, i lost 1 |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 08:31 PM) I see Empire Ears experimenting with woods and gold too, but nothing at Wizard level yet. Link here. Still some time to go, yup. Those Wizard designs are still untouchable right now.Btw, you know of anywhere here that sells Stax gear? Their distributor sounds so blur. This post has been edited by echineko: Mar 9 2016, 10:06 PM |
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QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 9 2016, 10:06 PM) Still some time to go, yup. Those Wizard designs are still untouchable right now. i havent seen any last i visit E1, stars picker, and jaben @ malaysia, but in SG, it's differentBtw, you know of anywhere here that sells Stax gear? Their distributor sounds so blur. |
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got myself a little discovery, apparently the Shonyun 306a has waaay more muscle than magni, powering my HD650 to screaming guitars like in a live concert, Joe Bonamassa style
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Want to ask sifu over here to guide me , AK10 enough to powered Westone UM50 Pro . I feel kinda weird sound
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QUOTE(shayufool11 @ Mar 9 2016, 11:20 PM) Want to ask sifu over here to guide me , AK10 enough to powered Westone UM50 Pro . I feel kinda weird sound He he most of standard dac should be able to pump up 70% at least, just don't have too much energyAre you using iPhone or android? This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 9 2016, 11:35 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 9 2016, 08:06 PM) But you had flc8 not so excited already, maybe you can plan to get Jupiter, if don't like n sell for me I already know I like the Jupiter sound haha, going to look hard for a used one. Won't be selling it unless I find a replacement that's even better.QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 9 2016, 10:58 PM) Wow my Angie really needs Mojo, after plug in the sq turn out amazing and the bass quite deeply, treble n minds forward. Mojo to Angie is one of the miracles of Earth. Angie won't run with just any handphone.Overall details quite surprisely Lucky didn't sold my mojo anyway |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 11:40 PM) I already know I like the Jupiter sound haha, going to look hard for a used one. Won't be selling it unless I find a replacement that's even better. Now I knew... Anyway not too late yet.Mojo to Angie is one of the miracles of Earth. Angie won't run with just any handphone. Used Jupiter last time I saw one in carousell going for $1.2k |
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Scrolling from first page till here...Finally done reading this whole thread. ...See so much hypes on Chord Mojo. Going to sell my MSAK100S and some of my gears to invest one. As my LG V10 might be taking up the role as DAP most of the time on the road. @noobandroid Had you received your Chord Mojo? Would be great if you may share some impression
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:32 AM) Scrolling from first page till here...Finally done reading this whole thread. ...See so much hypes on Chord Mojo. Going to sell my MSAK100S and some of my gears to invest one. As my LG V10 might be taking up the role as DAP most of the time on the road. @noobandroid Had you received your Chord Mojo? Would be great if you may share some impression Chord mojo is a amazing product, if wanna drive in high quality of sound should invest one.Otherwise can't said "Wow" no matter how high end of ur IEM, after result just like a normal, something feel like no energy at all. But just one thing to be take note. After used, must be volume down and before switch off. Just like my case on RHA T20i dunno is mojo or IEM itself had issue for 1 side broken sound, just bring back for 1 to 1 exchange for me. High volume can be easily killing your IEMs on next day. |
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:32 AM) Scrolling from first page till here...Finally done reading this whole thread. ...See so much hypes on Chord Mojo. Going to sell my MSAK100S and some of my gears to invest one. As my LG V10 might be taking up the role as DAP most of the time on the road. @noobandroid Had you received your Chord Mojo? Would be great if you may share some impression Good luck selling your MS AK100, usually from what I have seen in lowyat garage sale, AK stuff is really hard to sell. People will keep asking "lowest offer". |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 10 2016, 08:38 AM) Good luck selling your MS AK100, usually from what I have seen in lowyat garage sale, AK stuff is really hard to sell. People will keep asking "lowest offer". +1 haha. Might as well keep the MSAK100 as transport. It's equal width as the Mojo. Stack together very nice. |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 10 2016, 09:02 AM) Want to check with you, regarding the CIEM, the shell is design for personal right, how bout it they selling for used set, want to know about fitting got any bigger issue?Can solve with using some tips or too tight or ear kernel and uncomfortable fit with pan for listen in long time |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 10:39 AM) Want to check with you, regarding the CIEM, the shell is design for personal right, how bout it they selling for used set, want to know about fitting got any bigger issue? dude, just reshell it. ciems are meant to be tailored for your ears. most companies does it for about 150~250 dollars. some charge more, some less.Can solve with using some tips or too tight or ear kernel and uncomfortable fit with pan for listen in long time |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 10:42 AM) dude, just reshell it. ciems are meant to be tailored for your ears. most companies does it for about 150~250 dollars. some charge more, some less. Seem like not really worth, waiting time more than enjoy time.This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 10 2016, 10:45 AM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 10:57 AM) well, you ask for opinions/recommendations, yet you dismiss them with illogical argument or rebuttal. if you are so happy with your remax s1, stick with them. you want a good fitting ciem, yet not willing to fork out for brand new one. plan to get a used pair, but unwilling to pay/wait for reshelling. stick with universals then. you keep buying stuff, but do you know how to get the best out of each gear you gotten? different earphones have different synergy with different DAC/transport. yet you keep singing praise for your iOS player (i don't remember what app you use, not bothered to search for it either). my advice, use s1 + ur iOS player app = end game for you. |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 11:01 AM) well, you ask for opinions/recommendations, yet you dismiss them with illogical argument or rebuttal. if you are so happy with your remax s1, stick with them. you want a good fitting ciem, yet not willing to fork out for brand new one. plan to get a used pair, but unwilling to pay/wait for reshelling. stick with universals then. you keep buying stuff, but do you know how to get the best out of each gear you gotten? different earphones have different synergy with different DAC/transport. yet you keep singing praise for your iOS player (i don't remember what app you use, not bothered to search for it either). my advice, use s1 + ur iOS player app = end game for you. Remax S1 ok with me, nothing wrong with any IEMs pro & cons,must be tried the new or latest tech, otherwise life can't improve and value up.Anyway just a personal speaker no matter good or bad. iOS or android just a simple setup, nothing special for you. But it is very common setup all in 1. The bigger issue is money leh, bro. Also time n issue.. Usually family man where got free.. To have time and travel all the way as what you like. This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 10 2016, 11:18 AM |
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 9 2016, 11:02 PM) Not all handphones created equal.QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 9 2016, 11:40 PM) I already know I like the Jupiter sound haha, going to look hard for a used one. Won't be selling it unless I find a replacement that's even better. Jupiter similar to IE800?Mojo to Angie is one of the miracles of Earth. Angie won't run with just any handphone. I've not tried Angie but my AKR03 sounds wonderful out of my V10 in Aux mode with PowerAmp Alpha. Wonder what it would be like if it had a 2.5mm TRRS. QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:32 AM) Scrolling from first page till here...Finally done reading this whole thread. ...See so much hypes on Chord Mojo. Going to sell my MSAK100S and some of my gears to invest one. As my LG V10 might be taking up the role as DAP most of the time on the road. @noobandroid Had you received your Chord Mojo? Would be great if you may share some impression How's the V10? Keep your MSAK100S to stack with your future Mojo like what ezekiel_77 suggested.QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 10 2016, 08:41 AM) Didn't know that. Will check them out without my wallet. |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 10:39 AM) Want to check with you, regarding the CIEM, the shell is design for personal right, how bout it they selling for used set, want to know about fitting got any bigger issue? Yeah that's why customs are mostly to buy and keep. So you have to make sure you really really like the sound. Resale value is about 50%.Can solve with using some tips or too tight or ear kernel and uncomfortable fit with pan for listen in long time |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 11:25 AM) Yep.Jupiter is aluminium. Lyra is ceramic. Similar to IE800. Jupiter is warm, same as IE800. IE800 has a wider stage. But Jupiter is very, very coherent. Jupiter is thicker sounding. IE800 is leaner. Bass impact is almost the same. Both has slightly different housing reverb (echo), or I'm imagining things. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yea...gears with higher price are usually hard to let go. And also this kind of modded unit have no demo unit to let the buyer to justify the value of the DAP unless he comes to audition from me. |
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 11:47 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yea...gears with higher price are usually hard to let go. And also this kind of modded unit have no demo unit to let the buyer to justify the value of the DAP unless he comes to audition from me. The other thing is pricing issue, cant be too low or high, people always compare the price of the product |
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QUOTE(ezekiel_77 @ Mar 10 2016, 11:19 AM) I think mostly due to the weak RM. Buy in USD when the RM was strong and sell in USD when the RM is weak.Giving a rough example, buy at USD 1000 when USD to RM exchange rate at 3.8 and then sell at USD 900 when USD to RM exchange rate at 4.2. QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 10 2016, 11:38 AM) Yep. Thanks for the reply. I've neither heard any of them before. Will try and find the time. Jupiter is aluminium. Lyra is ceramic. Similar to IE800. Jupiter is warm, same as IE800. IE800 has a wider stage. But Jupiter is very, very coherent. Jupiter is thicker sounding. IE800 is leaner. Bass impact is almost the same. Both has slightly different housing reverb (echo), or I'm imagining things. |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:02 PM) I think mostly due to the weak RM. Buy in USD when the RM was strong and sell in USD when the RM is weak. Should try with fitting 1st, cause due to the aluminum shape uneven.Giving a rough example, buy at USD 1000 when USD to RM exchange rate at 3.8 and then sell at USD 900 when USD to RM exchange rate at 4.2. Thanks for the reply. I've neither heard any of them before. Will try and find the time. |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:02 PM) I think mostly due to the weak RM. Buy in USD when the RM was strong and sell in USD when the RM is weak. forex.. like durexGiving a rough example, buy at USD 1000 when USD to RM exchange rate at 3.8 and then sell at USD 900 when USD to RM exchange rate at 4.2. Thanks for the reply. I've neither heard any of them before. Will try and find the time. |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:02 PM) Jupiter is up there with other TOTL iems, that's my impression of it. It definitely holds its weight. IE800? It's a hit or miss for many.QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 12:07 PM) what do you mean aluminium shape uneven? It's well build. |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 10:48 AM) that's how ciems are. if you don't wanna deal with that, buy universals. no tips can help you with fitting issues when you are using someone else's ciems. QUOTE(echineko @ Mar 10 2016, 10:51 AM) QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 10:55 AM) i shall stop replying to his messages. can't tell if he's dead serious or trolling. it'd be easier to just ignore them I've done that a long time ago. Obviously trolling. On one hand says that money is an issue. Then next moment will be asking for IEMs at $2,500. Then says he has no time to audition on his own. Got work and family. You think other folks don't have work and family? Also asking stupid questions that can be found on Google. Google it Bro. We are not your Google. *drops mic* This post has been edited by joshuachew: Mar 10 2016, 12:45 PM |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:36 PM) Jupiter is up there with other TOTL iems, that's my impression of it. It definitely holds its weight. IE800? It's a hit or miss for many. IE800 sound very good, but fitting has a bigger issue.. what do you mean aluminium shape uneven? It's well build. Unlike V-Shape IEM, maybe u can try with Jupiter. IE800 straight type vs V-shape definitely nice to fit and more comfortable Jupiter is good also just the bodies shell slighly bigger like Angie, but lucky Angie still round shape don't have hanging problem. This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 10 2016, 01:05 PM |
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Mar 10 2016, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 12:59 PM) IE800 sound very good, but fitting has a bigger issue.. Dafuq is a v-shaped IEM? I googled but can't see sheeet.Unlike V-Shape IEM, maybe u can try with Jupiter. IE800 straight type vs V-shape definitely nice to fit and more comfortable Jupiter is good also just the bodies shell slighly bigger like Angie, but lucky Angie still round shape don't have hanging problem. IE800 fitting issue? What kind of issue are you referring to? Coz IE800 if you hold it before, it's tiny. Really small. Almost disappear in your ears when you wear it. For Pete's sake someone even put the entire housing in a CIEM mould and it still fits nicely. |
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Mar 10 2016, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 10 2016, 11:53 AM) Hard especially when you want to sell a first gen of product, perhaps you can let potential buyer to try before buying from. It will definitely consume your time but at least a way forward to let go. Thats the best way to go. The other thing is pricing issue, cant be too low or high, people always compare the price of the product Of course its normal for ppl to compare price. But its the point on how ppl evaluate the value of it for the price. AK is kinda like a premium brand in the field. And even the mod alone itself already cost 500usd. Weak currency is really a killer |
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Mar 10 2016, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 10 2016, 01:30 PM) Dafuq is a v-shaped IEM? I googled but can't see sheeet. Ie800 the design such as UE tf10.IE800 fitting issue? What kind of issue are you referring to? Coz IE800 if you hold it before, it's tiny. Really small. Almost disappear in your ears when you wear it. For Pete's sake someone even put the entire housing in a CIEM mould and it still fits nicely. The fitting such as cantilever out from ear kernel with the cable was hanging down, once accidentally pull the cable might be dropping down easily. Can fit as well, like used spinfit or comply. Btw I had issue from piston 2, after had the piston 3 no issue at all, cause inlet ear slighly bending for comfort fit This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 10 2016, 01:38 PM |
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Mar 10 2016, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 01:35 PM) Thats the best way to go. True. Especially you have done the mod, the mod not cheap, if you sell low, it is like you "rugi besar" Of course its normal for ppl to compare price. But its the point on how ppl evaluate the value of it for the price. AK is kinda like a premium brand in the field. And even the mod alone itself already cost 500usd. Weak currency is really a killer |
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Mar 10 2016, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 01:36 PM) Ie800 the design such as UE tf10. IE800 design same as TF10? In what way?The fitting such as cantilever out from ear kernel with the cable was hanging down, once accidentally pull the cable might be dropping down easily. Can fit as well, like used spinfit or comply. Btw I had issue from piston 2, after had the piston 3 no issue at all, cause inlet ear slighly bending for comfort fit This picture is from Head-Fi thread. Did you notice how small it is? It can be worn straight down or over ear. TF10 is over-ear IEM. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Mar 10 2016, 02:09 PM) Anyway ie800 sound very impressed just for short while..Maybe you have alternative options for shure 846, Jupiter Cause the price is consider not as cheap here. Should invest something on V-shape sound signatures was totally different, unless you really focusing on Bass portion |
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...this post is becoming more and more kopitiam. I am expecting informative posts in this thread and some experience sharing. Its a lounge not a kopitiam. I see troll...n some posts even makes me thinks that he dun even understand what is he posting. Maybe its a learning process. But its better to google up before asking. Dun just simply spam here for post counts. I really enjoy reading this thread as it really covers everything in here. From headphone to iem to any related stuffs.
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Mar 10 2016, 03:07 PM
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My Aether should arrive this week.
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Mar 10 2016, 03:08 PM
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Anyway kopitian got their rule too..
Actually myself quite enjoy here, since a short few months, non stop for Google n search new thing.. But I dunno something why needs to be too serious, since has never spoil the name n products wise. Cause everyone here to be the same, learn n learn for new thing with info sharing.. Nothing to be big deal. Just a IEMs or Earphone. |
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my mojo is getting real near d, i can feel it, i can sense it calling me out to unpack and use it
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Mar 10 2016, 03:01 PM) ...this post is becoming more and more kopitiam. I am expecting informative posts in this thread and some experience sharing. Its a lounge not a kopitiam. I see troll...n some posts even makes me thinks that he dun even understand what is he posting. Maybe its a learning process. But its better to google up before asking. Dun just simply spam here for post counts. I really enjoy reading this thread as it really covers everything in here. From headphone to iem to any related stuffs. There was one time I talked about upgrade cable for SE846, and he replied me with "better data transfer rate" some sort like that. |
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Mar 10 2016, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Mar 10 2016, 03:41 PM) There was one time I talked about upgrade cable for SE846, and he replied me with "better data transfer rate" some sort like that. Still recalled it..Usually in good cable of material such as silver plate or copper wires as well.. If wanna good in quality of sound should try with silver plate cable.. The transfer rate faster meant the sound quality was totally different, even grade of cable chord. The rest I dunno.. Anyway just used back the stock cable was no different thing. For example home fixed line used silver cable from Telekom should have meaning one. This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 10 2016, 03:51 PM |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 10 2016, 03:46 PM) Still recalled it.. Really appreciate if next time you can reply relevantly in any post, like this one Usually in good cable of material such as silver plate or copper wires as well.. If wanna good in quality of sound should try with silver plate cable.. The transfer rate faster meant the sound quality was totally different, even grade of cable chord. The rest I dunno.. Anyway just used back the stock cable was no different thing. |
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Mar 10 2016, 03:07 PM) Nope. It's with Calvin at SG since CNY. Life came up and I haven't got the time to go down south. Would have to wait till he comes viist next weekend. I know it's gonna sound good, just a tad worried about fitting. |
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Mar 10 2016, 04:20 PM
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Cables has nothing to do with transfer rate, it's the conductivity of each material which have different conductive values.
Nevertheless, if you can even hear audible difference. Good for you otherwise it's wiser to spend on better transducers. |
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QUOTE(konpaku @ Mar 10 2016, 04:15 PM) Nope. It's with Calvin at SG since CNY. Life came up and I haven't got the time to go down south. Would have to wait till he comes viist next weekend. I know it's gonna sound good, just a tad worried about fitting. Surely could just mail it to you, right? Or scared of the erratic customs levies? |
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