come on.. dun because to get a speaker, but lose a fren.

In fact, i seriously doubt ur fren r layman in audiophile. there is no way a logitech speaker can better than edifier! even though u take their highest 2.1 Z2300(RM550) versus the cheap M3300(RM230) i still say M3300 is way better in over all sound stage. same goes to altec lansing speaker. IMHO, altec lansing just produce good speaker start from RM450(CS21) and above. their lower range product like ATP3 and vs4121 sounds like a speaker cover by a pillow, and the bass is loud but bloat and not well defined. for those layman who dunno acoustic, they usually thought bass louder meaning the speaker is better. this kind of user like ur fren better ask them go to buy car speaker, because those cheap car skeaper already can blast until ur house vibrate with their "boomy" bass.

but... ignorance is not their fault, because they dun have a sensitive ear. just dun waste ur time to argue with them because they wouldn't understand it.

if wanna take 2.1 vs 2.1, currently the highest range product from edifier is S2.1D(arround RM390) only. IMO MX5021 is still better than S2.1D. anyway, there is a term we always use "performance/price ratio", S2.1D still perform very good for the price u pay RM390 only. but i never say RM500 and above altec lansing is best choice, what i mean is just RM500 above speaker like MX5021 at least have the quality there so u can consider it. FYI, the lastest and highest range 2.1 from edifier is S2.1MKII. its going to release in the market in this year. u can go to test it at show room now. i really think RM500 above 2.1 speaker, S2.1MKII still beat all the other 2.1 speaker like logitech, altec lansing, creative, and klipsch. so... no matter wat range i still think edifier is the winner, i can see they keep work hard to improve their speaker quality, their product building material never reduce one. last time 4 to 5 years ago i am altec lansing fans. at that time their speaker quality really good. but after that i dunno wat happen to altec lansing, their quality really drop already, meanwhile edifier keep improve their speaker quality, so now i change to edifier fan already because i found that their product for low, high range all also very good quality. u wanna take 4 years b4 ATP3 compare with current ATP3? u will found
that altec lansing they reduce their building material to save cost! one more thing i can tell u is, i always think ATP3 and VS4121 sounds like cover by a pillow u know y?
because this speaker design natively got problem! did u know their 3" satelite is hide under the satelite? this is the reason make the satelite sounds blur. wat the heck to the design engineer of altec lansing, i start disappointed to them since ATP3 and their following product. i am not convince anybody here because i believe u have ur own idea. if u urself dun like that kind of sounding method, no matter how i convince u also no point. u can always test by urself 1st b4 decide to buy. i just want to release my opinion here.

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Jan 13 2007, 10:20 AM

Phil Jones is a human.

i had tested S2.1MKII third times! i can say i almost had audit listen to all the most highend multimedia speaker and this really is the only one multimedia speaker can satisfy me, though i am using hifi loud speaker now. to me it pawn all the other multimedia speaker badly like sh*t, no matter 2.1, 5.1, 7.1...

if it release in the market, i will proud to be the 1st owner

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Feb 6 2007, 11:38 AM

aegoM is the best speaker for music, i have to say its really unbeatable for its clarity. its sounds wont lose to S2.1MKII, but... it is good but just not my cup of tea... because.. i am half basshead

i like the very low end kick bass which u can detect in floorstander, i like a speaker can perform well in both music and movie. i like a speaker sounds very open like aego but still have a very dept bass. aegoM is very good in music, but when come to movie i just feel its bass not dept enough which is require in action movie. anyway, i am half basshead, mayb for me aegoM bass is not dept enough but for others they just feel already more than enough... this is really hard to say...

lets talk in this way, just some estimation of my opinion, 10 is full mark:

aegoM : high - 8
mid - 9 or 10
bass - 5

S2.1MKII : high - 8
mid - 8
bass - 8

S2.1MKII actually is very hard to turn the sound, bcoz its design is very complicated(see the remote control u will know ), if u dunno adjust the sound, it can make u missunderstand its potential, so.. u need to take some time to do testing turn the sound at the showroom. if u just direct go and listen, u might not satisfy bcoz the setting may not suit your listen preference
but it is a good thing also, the design like this make it very flexible, it can wider the range of user, bcoz u got more choice on the setting.

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Feb 6 2007, 01:23 PM

sorry no offence... but how you know? are you edifier staff?

wah... the girl is so sexy... nice poster

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Feb 26 2007, 10:44 PM

i am start saving my money to prepare standby already, once it release the final version and i test it fulfill my expectation i will straight buy it no matter how much it cost!!

frankly speak the prototype not fully meet my expectation also, it still can further improve

be patient please... good stuff doesn't come fast

Hey Mr. Edifier, mayb he is just some one else who imitation as a SG staff! lol

i saw the M20 MK II Pure Vacuum Tube 2.0 in edifier show room b4! it put together with the S2.1MKII, and i also have try listen on it.

sorry edifier, i don't know he is your fren. anyway from his post can see he is a nice guy, but just need to learn some communication skill. communication skill is very important for a salesman, i have work as salesman b4 also. cheers

i see, no wonder i hear a lot of ppl complain the Apocalypx series from SG die very fast. some of the case even buy it first day already spoilt and return back claim warantee..

thanks for the update for S2.1MKII, i will wait for it no matter how long, as long as the final version much better than the demo unit then is fine

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Apr 6 2007, 12:13 PM

wah... where you get these picture?

watt how much is nothing, the only thing we should concern is the sound output nice or not. anyway thanks a lot to Mr. Edifier keep update us, i am waiting for this speaker also.

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: May 14 2007, 01:59 PM

why 2.1 can not more than RM800? how about S2000? just 2.0 dont even have subwoofer but selling at RM1500 still got ppl buy. if the sound quality is superior than s2000 how u all think the price?

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: May 14 2007, 03:58 PM

i don't agree with about the bold part. the subwoofer "look like" Z5500 only. the display unit at show room already pawn Z5500 far in sq. their satelite have a better clarity, the over all sound stage is richer than z5500, and the subwoofer have better quality bass than z5500, z5500 bass is boomy. may be the final version S2.1MKII will have equal or better sq than S2000 who know. if the sq is really superb, RM2k i also buy

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: May 14 2007, 05:53 PM

the most important is what time u blast? don't tell me is between night 11pm to 7am morning.

i also blast until very loud but never have problem because i just blast at afternoon and evening, never blast at early morning and night. i blast until whole apartment also can hear oh

SPDIF = Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format

the two companies being the primary designers of the S/PDIF format for digital audio signal. by the way, SPDIF is a format, not the physical connection type. the physical connector of SPDIF can be optical or coaxial. in short, SPDIF not = coaxial. the one u talking actually is coaxial

This post has been edited by DotA 5.84C -AR: Jun 11 2007, 01:22 AM

nice gal

may i have her contact?