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waja2000
post May 24 2016, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 21 2016, 06:26 PM)


more interested in this. 2 in one (MPA and AWECS) laugh.gif

SG not getting this upgrade?
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good for RMAF getting few unit too, but seems price also high, UAE order 2 Global 6000 Erieye for $1.27b, maybe include some RnD cost because new plane, at the end still at lease $500m per-plane, about same price to B737 AEW MESA.
other issue is support,
all major private jet company Embraer, Gulfstream, Bombardier, Dassualt service center all in Singapore. seem setup a service center just for 3-4 jet seem not so realistic.
still personal think use A319LR install Erieye AEW system much more logic, since our we have Airbus service center in KLIA. also RMAF operate CJ319and CJ320 for VIP, so much easy for pilot arrangement & training and maintenance.

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post May 24 2016, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ May 24 2016, 06:24 PM)
I would prefer this though

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Except plane, all radar/electronic/system is from Israel Elta.
also this only good for patrol, not really good for tactical action together with jet fighter due to much low speed.

QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2016, 06:45 PM)
The issue is the electronic component are from zeonist.

Through raf does not really mind, public sentiment make take effect on eventual selection
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agree.
unless we use cheat way.
i thinking the radar mount in A319LR than Airbus claim there product (never mention form Elta) biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2016, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 24 2016, 01:04 PM)
Someone have to pay for the integration cost instead of a ready product.

I doubt even offered, will get the most also 2 biji saja.
4 biji is a blessing already.

It offered together with the gripen deal so it might not be tat real exp. UAE was including additional integration cost etc etc.
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agree,
ready product than B737 Wedgetail also ok. still also not cheap.
if 2 unit than only can station one side either east or west malaysia.
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post May 24 2016, 11:38 PM

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Philippines says Malaysian Navy detains three fishermen in South China Sea
BY REUTERS - 24 MAY 2016 @ 8:03 PM Facebook 1 Twitter Share 1

MANILA: A Malaysian naval patrol detained three Philippine fishermen for encroaching in territorial waters in the disputed Spratlys this month, the Philippine military said on Tuesday, in what may be the first such incident involving Southeast Asian neighbours. Malaysia and the Philippines have overlapping exclusive economic zones in the disputed South China Sea, which is believed to have rich deposits of oil and gas and is almost entirely claimed by China. But Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also claim the sea, through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. On May 9, the Philippine vessel was about 18 miles (29 km) southwest of Commodore Reef, one of nine Philippine-held territories in the South China Sea, when a Malaysian patrol boat intercepted it for encroaching in territorial waters. When the vessel tried to flee, the patrol boat gave chase, and briefly detained the fishermen. Hours later they were turned over to Philippine troops stationed on Commodore Reef, a Philippine navy spokeswoman said. “The Western Command is saddened by the incident involving our fellow Filipinos,” Captain Cherryl Tindog said in a statement, adding that the fishermen received medical treatment. “They are in stable condition, except for some bruises.” The statement gave no reason for the time elapsed since the event. The fishermen complained of having been punched and kicked during questioning by the Malaysian Navy after being apprehended, Tindog added. “We were treated like criminals,” Nelson Plamiano, one of the fishermen, told broadcaster GMA 7. The Malaysian Navy did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Philippine military directed questions on diplomacy and policy issues to the Philippine foreign ministry, which did not respond to queries from Reuters. Political analysts say the incident was the first reported to involve the Malaysian navy and Philippine fishermen since a 2012 escalation of tension in the South China Sea, when China harrassed Philippine and Vietnamese fishermen in the Spratlys. Malaysia’s handling of the Philippine fishermen was a violation of an informal code of conduct signed in Cambodia in 2002, said Jay Batongbacal, an expert in maritime law from the University of the Philippines. “Our Department of Foreign Affairs should talk to Malaysia about this incident, because hitting our fishermen was not part of any agreement,” he added. --Reuters

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post May 26 2016, 12:47 AM

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Tuesday, 24 May 2016 | MYT 8:51 PM
RMN chief: Maritime challenges won't affect Malaysia-China ties

BEIJING: The challenges in the South China Sea, where Malaysia and China are among the countries laying overlapping territorial claims, will not affect the close friendship between the military forces of the two nations, said Royal Malaysian Navy chief Admiral Datuk Seri Ahmad Kamarulzaman Ahmad Badaruddin.

Both nations prefer to focus on enhancing collaboration and cooperation with “deep and sincere friendship" as the strong foundation, he said Tuesday during his visit to China.

He said the armed forces of the two countries will engage in more training and exchanges, such as port visits and a joint drill codenamed “Peace and Friendship 2016” in Port Dickson in mid-September.

"I look forward to expanding the cooperation between both military forces, from humanitarian aid and disaster relief to counterterrorism efforts as well as search and rescue operations, to share experiences and techniques," he said.

During his visit, Adm Kamalrulzaman called on China's Central Military Commission vice-chairman Gen Xu Qiliang and commander of the People’s Liberation Army Navy Adm Wu Shengli.

He briefed the Chinese side on the RMN's "15-to-5 transformation programme", which aims at consolidating naval units from 15 classes to five to strengthen the country's maritime security and to be cost-effective.

“We are open to collaboration which can bring down the cost of building our fleet as low as possible.

“The Chinese side praised the innovative approach and expressed their willingness to offer their support, if given the opportunity,” he said.

Gen Xu said Adm Kamarulzaman will be the first military leader from neighbouring countries to visit PLA’s aircraft carrier, a gesture that would prove the importance attached by the Chinese military to its Malaysian counterpart.

Adm Kamarulzaman visit is to reciprocate Adm Wu's trip to Malaysia last year.

From Beijing, Adm Kamarulzaman will travel to Qingdao in Shandong province to visit China’s submarine academy. biggrin.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...sia-china-ties/

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post May 26 2016, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ May 26 2016, 04:17 PM)
9hrs not counting air to air refuel?

Btw y  don't consider modern long haul jets like 787 or 777 they can fly  up 14/15 hrs
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that is too big plane and too cost/expensive to operate. and technically no required for such big plane.
Boeing 767 already biggest Aew plane.
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post May 27 2016, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 27 2016, 09:26 AM)
2 Navy fighter jets crash off North Carolina coast; 4 hospitalized

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crash more F18, than marine have reason request buy new F18 ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

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