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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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terrykow
post Jul 23 2016, 10:02 PM

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Park sky residence got 1098 unit and may I know how many unit they will build in park 2 ? I'm abit worry about this project, if the project very successful then pv2 will be so so so jammed, can't imagine the crowd during weekends, would this affect the residents in park residence? If the project is not doing well like damen, then will be lot of empty unit for sales after vp.
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post Jul 23 2016, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jul 23 2016, 10:10 PM)
I have posted few posts before.
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Dun misunderstood my fren, , I have seen yr post, this is just my way to express how high density pv2 residence will be from park 1 plus park 2. Relax bro.
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post Sep 15 2016, 03:41 PM

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Park 2 is a fairly good choice for investment. Link bridge to pv2 and facade is better than park 1.
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(12321 @ Sep 15 2016, 05:30 PM)
how much rental do you think park 2 can fetch let's say smallest unit 750sf? hmm.gif
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If based on current market, 750sf unit, lucky one can get 1800 to 2k perhaps. There will be alot of choices above 2k for tenants. Besides, have to compete with park1, skyluxe, twin arkz and link2. Hopefully few yrs later, rental yield can improve.
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post Sep 16 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Sep 16 2016, 12:05 PM)
Wau! MRT is reaching TPM which is just 600m away from Pavilion Bukit Jalil City

PM launches RM32b second MRT line to turn Klang Valley into world
class city | Malaysia | Mobile | Malay Mail Online
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...world-class-cit

For more info can also look into this
https://www.facebook.com/MasterPiecePropertiesMalaysia/
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Good news to Bukit jalil.
terrykow
post Sep 18 2016, 10:47 AM

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How many units per floor for park 2?
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post Sep 18 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(KLProperty @ Sep 18 2016, 03:45 PM)
Tks Ryan for sharing.

Park 2
Tower 1:
8 Passenger lift + 1 service lift
10 Units per floor.
2 Units dual-key with Balcony facing Bukit Jalil Park
2 Units dual key without balcony facing pavilion Mall.
6 unit of 750 sqf (1+1 room)

Tower 2 is ...
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8 lifts per tower is very nice. Good one.
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post Sep 18 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(AffordableLuxury @ Sep 18 2016, 10:11 PM)
Averagely RM850 psf. Final Price shall be reveal soon!
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Premium condo in KL only 850psf is considered very good price. Shouldn't miss the chance!
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post Sep 23 2016, 12:39 PM

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This is a booming project, no doubt. However, after getting info from SA, I would like to bring up few points, firstly, for unit 950sqf is only given one carpark that would be inconvenience for a family now, which at least got 2 cars. Secondly, the park views only given to bigger unit. Any comments?
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post Sep 23 2016, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(maxxng12 @ Sep 23 2016, 12:57 PM)
my 2cent worth. Newbies. Just sharing own thought
1. Project developer is branded/marketed with MALTON / Pavillion. Of course able to gather certain fans crowd.
2. Park 1 and Park 2- total up almost 1700unit plus (excluding the surrounding)
3. Bukit Jalil condo development plus surrounding- easily 5000-8000 poured into market in next 3 years.
4. Market is not sustainable in today Malaysia market. Thanks to the 1st couple.
5. Everyone is aim for flipping or appreciation of the property, buying at future price. But even u sell out after completed/waiting to fully occupied, u are still serve the bank interest, serve the bank, serve the gomen, u have no real earning, only physically paper gain and number.
6. Genuine owner for own stay only 20-30%, I believe.
7. Others all so-called labeled themselves as flipper/investor/higher income group earner, feel proud of themselves when they holding the so-called luxury condo, feel themselves as rich man.
8. with today market and possible sluggish economy in next 2-3 years as predicted, when u got the product ready and every month u have to pay for installment, maintenance fee, bank interest etc etc, and when the property eating into your disposable income and wallet starting to shrink, see whether you feel rich bo...by that time.
9. Of cos everyone also feel that their income will increase with year, 3 years later should be able to match, but is it so easy for salary increment every year? if everyone increase the income, who make the loss then?
10. even if own stay, young couple still OKAY lar...but 800-900sf...with the price tag, gosh...with 1 carpark...haha
If get the larger unit...1.3m price tag, walao...I prefer to stay landed lar (own opinion of cos)

hehe, own opinion lar..thanks for the read up
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Mostly agreed with you. According to The sales team, pv2 is focusing on expats. Predicted to have a lots of foreigners to come as a million ringgit property to them is just few hundreds dollars. My question is: how many expat will really wanted to stay in pv2, despite the jam, bj dun even have a international school nearby.
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post Sep 24 2016, 01:18 PM

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Based on the developer profile, famous malton track record, this project is still a reasonable good buy for investment but is a big NO for ownstay, especially for small unit.
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post Sep 25 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 24 2016, 11:04 PM)
There are two sides of a coin when talking about retail industry today. There are no clear conclusion as the facts may vary according to circumstances during this challenging times.

First of all, I'm talking in the perspective of a mall operator not a retail shop owner. A mall that generates income growth continuously, example like those in the REITs does not necessarily mean that an individual retail shop tenant they have are doing well.

Yes size is necessary to bring anchor tenants. And at this times, yes, it is not necessary that big malls will mean better (refer to this week's Focus M), but generally this is the rule of thumb for retail consultants advising developers. This is the worst case scenario. Anchor tenants pay the lowest rentals but they are required to bring the traffic footfall, at least this is my opinion.

I worked with some of the biggest names in retail consulting as I was working in a developer. Retail consultants adviced us not to build malls that are too small like less than 300,000 sq ft as we will be neither big or small, and if small, we will not be able to achieve sufficient footfall for tenants and we will not be able to bring anchors (small also means lesser carparks).

Only a very small % of small to mid-sized malls are doing well, at least financially. Bangsar Shopping Centre used to be one of the top performer for neighbourhood mall. Mind you, the shops in Solaris Dutamas are not part of Publika Mall management and in Publika, anchors like BIG contribute almost majority of their income while the rest are not doing really well. Alot of neighbourhood malls like Cheras Leisure Mall and Main Place Mall are heavily dependent on certain F&B tenants and key tenants like their supermarket and they do not necessarily reflect growth in mall operator's' income because some of these tenants rental rates are low to begin with especially supermarket.

In recent times, out of a dozen malls that opened over the last many years, most of them neighbourhood malls, most of them don't do well. One mall that might stand out is probably the best of all of them is IOI City Mall, which is a big mall, not a neighbourhood mall.

Pavilion KL has a net lettable area of 1,335,119 sq ft with a gross floor area of 2,202,557 sq ft, and hence its a mid-sized mall that we have. There is no word that I was saying it was doing well, although on the mall operator level, there is a relatively so-so income growth (read Pav REIT) due to renewals and higher rentals for some tenants. On the individual retail tenant perspective, not all tenants are doing well, and yes there are tenants that have sales crunch during this times.

Some of our big malls do practise accrued rentals... so some tenants have been owing their rental payments for months. Many malls today also do track their tenant's sales performance. But the bottomline is some of our more established, big malls are still able to RAISE rental income especially towards F&B tenants signifying income growth.

For the size that Pavilion BJ has, I think it has great potential and it has a great chance of succeed if you look at their brief. It has large cineplex, a large entertainment feature and large foodcourts and these will drive the traffic of its catchment market Mad.
(The most recent mall leasing event that I attended is EkoCheras Mall. It might look quite promising but I have comments which is another day's topic.)
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For sure the mall will succeed. But how's the condo?

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