Hey fellow Lowyats, I just want to ask owners of any lexus es or gs models on some reliability questions about Lexus.
I heard Lexus is a bulletproof car and isit true that Lexus will not have any major problems during the years of service? Because benz and bmw are burning a whole in people's wallet for maintenance and I'm trying to convince my dad to jump onto the Lexus brand having driven german cars for his entire life.
Thanks

Perception wise and Lexus production procedure wise (google up "Lexus takumi), it should be among the best, if not the best in the market. But still, in the not so perfect world, it depends on your luck. But generally, being the best of the best in Toyota, you can have a high expectation of reliability and quality.

As cars get driven, wear and tear will surely set in and how fast will it be will depend on your driving mileage and road conditions. Major repairs will still set in and there's no bullet proof reliability car in the world. But the comforting fact is that you can rely on their market leading customer service on your whole car ownership lifetime. The are known to go to ends of the world to help you in the best of their ability.

Since your family has been on german wheels for so long, why not give something non german a shot? I presume your family will also have plenty financial reserves. Can also consider Sweedish Volvo or British Jaguar/Land Rover/Range Rover for a change of taste.

IMHO both models are overpriced if looking at the engine as they're still using the old 4GR-FSE engine introduced since 2004. However Lexus & Toyota have been the leading brands in terms of reliability so if that's what you're after then it should match your expectation, especially this engine is already very proven reliable with very good fuel consumption too.

Well said. In my opinion the GS250 by Lexus is really awesome with superb fit and finish and the amount of technology as well and i'd pick the GS250 over any german sedan at this price point simply because of its reliability and as i said the fit and finish and the built quality! People keep on saying that its a toyota although its a heck of a car on its own. Well my family insisted on getting a german car instead haha . I guess there is a special presence about german cars.

Japanese cars really are the king of reliability. I've seen many old accords and camrys still roaming around the streets and its really impressive!

Japanese cars really are the king of reliability. I've seen many old accords and camrys still roaming around the streets and its really impressive!

Now got 2L turbo engine option Can have some fuel savings and better power. Pity that the facelift really making the whole look of the car very polarising. The prefacelift look is more of my taste.

Still, favourite is the previous generation GS, the side profile looks perfect to my eyes despite being more than 10 years old design

Don't challenge your family's wisdom Let them buy German cars

Pls, its year 2016 ---> 2 litres turbo

Maybe TS kiamsiap wanna buy cheaper Used... Too bad there's no such thing as ES200t, and the GS200t was just announced yesterday...

Well in the end it depends on what the TS is prioritizing. In fact if the TS has much more budget, can even get bigger engines with turbo some more, not necessarily should be just a 2.0 turbo.

if i am not mistaken, Lexus top the vehicle reliability chart in USA.

But this will be the trend.

Yes, one of the best selling luxury car. In fact Lexus is comparable to Mercedes in term of luxury, while beemer is behind them.

I read this sometime back. Lexus top the reliability chart. Bottom is MG, then the germans except merc. Surprise also didnt see french at bottom. But lately i read something about honda is most reliable but i think is different term. If not mistsken is engine.

But Honda's going back to CVT... That's the worry now...

Why do you think it is a worry?

If it is because of those nissan stories (especially for previous generation sylphys), yes it did have some issue with older/higher mileage cars. But that was due to design as there was no transmission oil cooling system. The oil "cooked" up the whole system and broke down. There were some suggestions to add on an aftermarket oil cooler or changing the oil earlier than the recommended intervals. Current units have this issue solved.

For the honda CVTs that have gone busted, it is engineering design and rather unique to our market as most of the failures are over here. The engineers found out that malaysians are really harsh drivers and really push the car hard, far harder than the rest of the markets. I'm confident that they've taken in the previous issues and made necessary design changes for the current units. Since it can handle a turbocharged engine, it should be more durable.

Haha just wait for 3 months then confirm got people import the new facelift using ap license

es250 use 2AR-FE same as Camry 2.5. not sure es going to get 200t engine..since both is and gs is rwd. es only comes with fwd (same layout as camry).

Ah ya, thx for the correction.