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post Mar 20 2008, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 20 2008, 06:21 PM)
The usual splitter branched out from one to two ..

so depend on the number of fans u want to power up ..

do the math and grab the splitter somewhere at LYP ...

less than RM10 each ...... nod.gif
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I couldn't find an in low yat today. Any pointers what shop i should go? I think I'll need them splitters. ( =
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post Mar 26 2008, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Mar 26 2008, 12:24 PM)
splitter? r the splitter is 1molex -> 2 molex 4 pin, or?
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Mmm. if it's me you were referring to, I was looking for Molex to 3-pin (for case fan) splitters. I managed to find some in ngbh's store, but then they are expensive, and too short to be of any use. Think I'll just hotwire my case fans.
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post Mar 26 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Mar 26 2008, 12:49 PM)
ooo, but molex - 3 pin come with acryan 80mm/120mm uv reactive fan only selling RM5 by uglyvamp aka gary before, his bulk only avalaible until 22th march ^^
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I don't intend to use UV reactive fans ( = don't want my casing to be a disco.
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post Mar 26 2008, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Mar 26 2008, 12:55 PM)
If dun wan the fan, the splitter onlly RM5, it's worth ^^
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Oooh? but closed already... damn. lol. Low yat don't sell?
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(platinum_blind @ Mar 31 2008, 03:46 PM)
Anyone know where to get this fan ? looks really cool . Is it ready made or modded? thanks

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I think you can buy the aluminium fans anywhere, but the cone on the motor head.. maybe a mod add on.
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post Apr 1 2008, 12:19 PM

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Sorry, I think i misunderstood a question HAHA whistling.gif

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post Apr 11 2008, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(kingmax @ Apr 10 2008, 10:02 PM)
Oh ,thanks , but 700 RPM really that low ? as I know even my house ceiling fan spinning 5 times per second already can few the airflow.If 700 means 700 times in one second sure a lot of airflow.
I know computer casing fan is different but I think isn't that much right ?
Really plan to buy a silent fan with cheaper price.
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It's 700 RPM which is rotations per minute. Not per second.

Generally, the larger the fan, the more airflow it will produce given the same RPM compared to a smaller fan. Just imagine the fan blades as being a ladle, and the air being soup. A larger ladle means you'll have to scoop less times to transfer 1 litre of soup compared to a small ladle. That's why for silent or quite setups, people go for larger fans like 120 or 140 mm case fans. Although they may spin at a lower RPM compared to 80 or 90 mm fans, they can generate the same amount of airflow, and logically, if operated at the same rpm, the 120 mm fans will push more air compared to a 90 mm fan.

In example, a 90mm fan may be noisy at 2000 RPM, and quiet at 1200 RPM, but at 1200 RPM, the air-flow is not good. The solution to get satisfactory airflow is to:

a. But a super silent but high airflow 90mm fan, which will probably cost a lot, and they don't really exist anyway, due to limits of physics
b. Change to a 120 mm fan and run it at 1200 RPM for better airflow, but no (or hardly any) increase in noise.

That's just a general example, but generally, that's how it works. ( =

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post Apr 14 2008, 06:07 PM

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For quiet cooling:

Never buy smaller than 12 cm fans

If your fans cannot be plugged into the mobo, make sure on 12v (MOSFET connector) they are rated to not spin at high RPMs. For example, Cooler Master silent fans spin at 1200 RPM on 12v, which is quiet enough for me, with decent airflow ( decent airflow since I have 3 intake fans and 3 exhaust fans). Otherwise, you have to buy or mod your own 5 or 7 volt MOSFET connectors. Generally for cooler master silent fans, 2000 rpm is audible, and 700 is too slow (i tested using the mobo speed controller) so 1200 RPM hits the sweet spot for me.

Having fan speed regulators will really remove the major headache of noise vs performance. Then you can increase or lower an speeds as and when you need performance, or silence. They may cost quite a bit, but it's a good investment, if you don't mind how they look (most of the affordable ones are ugly and do not fit my casing's look, so I didn't get one) whistling.gif

Noise can also be caused by vibrations, so your mounting process should be considered as well. A rated silent fan won't be so silent if it's only mounted using cable-ties to a CD-ROM bay grill.




As Doom said, If you're not overclocking though, then don't bother with too many fans. your pc should function just fine. Adding fans = more dust = more maintenance required. Go for Prod's suggestion of 1 front intake and one rear exhaust should be sufficient.

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post Apr 14 2008, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(arton @ Apr 14 2008, 07:07 PM)
Oh...okie =D...can CM elite 311 install a fan at the side???how many cm fan can it fit?and it is advisable to fit a fan there???and if yes...the fan intake or release air from casing??
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I assume you mean the 331, can't find any 311. haha! Well, yes there are side intake vents. I call them intakes because my previous casing had similar vents, and with my setup and mobo design, you can feel air being sucked in the side and not expelled. The lower vent however, might depend on your graphic card. For example, my 8800 gts 512 is a dual slot card, which sucks air from the back end of the card ( the end that faces the HDD racks) and expells air out at the dvi ports (the back of the pc chasis). Some graphic cards operate differently however, and the airflow migt be different. I suggest before you buy any fans, take a thin strip of tissue paper, and test the general airflow direction of the casing first.

From what I gather, there's only proper mountings for a front intake fan (a filter is provided, so don't have to worry about dust) and a read exhaust fan. I suggest to stick to these. Only put an intake fan at the side if you can confirm it's an intake vent. Otherwise, you may just mess up the graphic card airflow. If you're willing to do some modding, bottom intake and top exhaust really really help in cooling, but I'm not sure if your casing dimensions will allow that. Note that putting an intake fan at the side might be limited due to the ready made perforations of the side pane. Maybe buy a cheapo no-brand 12 and 9 cm fan to see if the screw holes can align.

Another note, if yo are changing to a third party heat sink/fan for your processor, the fan orientation will affect airflow too.

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post Apr 14 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(arton @ Apr 14 2008, 09:01 PM)
Wow..is kinda complicated >.<...okie=D...will try it once I get the new pc...haha...cant wait to get it...

C2D E6550
DFI Blood Iron p35-t2RL
Kingston DDR2 667 2gb
Seagate 160gb sata 8mb
Galaxy 8800GT DDR3 512MB
Silverstone Strider 560W
CM elite 331 = rm 141
Samsung 19" 931BW = rm 689
Creative M5300 (5.1) = rm 299

Hope Elite 331 can give me a good air flow...lol...
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If I were you, I'd scrap the soundcard and get a better harddrive + a CM690 only extra RM80 for the CM690. (RM220 At www.yeahstore.com) or at least, order the CM590. much better airflow with top blow off vents as well.

Unless you really have high quality 5 channel speakers (or your mobo no onboard sound), I really don't see the point.
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(arton @ Apr 15 2008, 12:01 AM)
Creative M5300 (5.1) is actually 5.1 speaker...but now i plan to change to 4.1 wan...It is not soundcard...coz soundcard is alreadly built in...=D
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doh.gif My bad. hahaha. Just assumed. blush.gif
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post Apr 16 2008, 07:12 PM

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Question: Would daisy chaining a bunch of fans using molex connectors affect it's voltage or amp? Meaning if I stick a fan into a molex connector and connect that to the PSU molex rail, then from the connector I conenct another fan to another fan etc.

Something like this:
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Want to know if my fans are going at the right RPM haha

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post Apr 17 2008, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 17 2008, 05:33 PM)
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hmm by connecting all those fans to the molex power connector u won't be able to know the RPM .. however it definitely won't under powered your fans and affecting its RPM ...
Ah okay. When connected to 12 volt source the fans will be spinning at 1200 RPM so says the box tongue.gif
Just wondering when daisy chaining will the impedence/resistance/whatever-other-terms change for each fan.
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post Apr 17 2008, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 17 2008, 06:11 PM)
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Nope it won't .. I'd run as the speed should be ...
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post Apr 23 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 23 2008, 06:09 PM)
not exactly a case fan, but its a good shot tongue.gif
Xigmatek Red Scorpion/Achilles fan smile.gif

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best shot i could take by far xD
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Very nice picture ( = If the logo was horizontally aligned, then it would be perfect. ( =


And No RageWeaver, I have no idea.

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post May 5 2008, 02:28 AM

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Don't think if the side fan being too slow to make a diference. I'm sure it's making a difference compared to no fan. You will have to pay a higher price for silent high air flow fans. Really the best option is to get a multi fan controller. control the speed according to use. ( =

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