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cablesguy
post Dec 25 2006, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 25 2006, 02:00 PM)
If you're planning on using an adaptor..then forget it.

RPM = Pressure

Having a big fan with low rpm (hence noise) is only useful to cover a bigger area that has low restriction. If funnelled through an adaptor.... this means there's more back pressure hence the real airflow will be significantly less.

For example..hold a spinning fan and observe closely...the closer you move it to the surface of the table....the noisier it gets...and less air is blown.
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nvr used an adaptor b4 so dont know how loud it add to the sound clutter, also not really sure if im on the right track, anyway the reason im thinking of the 140mm fans is bec its big enuf for the air to go around 2 hdd, n hopefully not as noisy as the 120mm fans with respectable cfm....maybe this pix can illustrate better, the black rectangle is suppose to represent a hdd... lol, the blue line is cold air n the red is heat.

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seems like any moderate cfm fans that i tried has the unbearable backpressure sound...so running out of ideas




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post Dec 25 2006, 07:30 PM

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not really into chopping anything so looks like my options are pretty limited....anyway just happened into this pic of someone replacing the 120mm fans with 2 x 80mm...simple but ingenious...wonder whats the sound like....

http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfzy3ul9.jpg


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post Dec 25 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 25 2006, 08:41 PM)
damn those two casing drool.gif anyway, mind telling how u gonna do that? blink.gif
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really dont know....still trying to figure out....somore sniper say the diy fans r mostly questionable which sounds about right....anyway i think if put 2 x 80mm fans will be noisier plus twice the vibration, so maybe not a good idea...maybe try aluminium fans.....shud be less vibration right?
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post Dec 26 2006, 12:32 AM

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@ E-J@1

already tried.., also tried plastic pushpins instead of screws...resonance change a little but not much dif...prob is the really silent fans r just that...silent but not much airflow...hdd temp go up 3-5c

@ J-Slade
high density sponge...mind telling whats that...isit like nexus damptek

anyway bombman suggested aluminium fans...might try that...
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post Dec 26 2006, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 26 2006, 12:46 AM)
Sorry for my poor photography

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They seem to come with 'sticker' so basically its chopped up into lil square bits and you place them around the 4 corners of your fans. Btw, I got them from AllnGap. The King of all fans...  laugh.gif

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Yes it works very similar to the Nexus DampTek.
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actually the pix is clear enuf thx smile.gif ...anyway does it compress much if u screw it onto the casing, coz if it doesnt then there shud be gaps in between whihc i think shud further lessen the noise n also the vibration...
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post Dec 26 2006, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 26 2006, 09:21 AM)
I use more ghetto stuff.... those black spongy double sided tape sold in car accessories shop.

Multi purpose as well... can use as fan dampeners... if one layer not thick enough...add more.

Can also use to reduce HDD vibration.

Best of all....they're cheap as dirt. $5 will get you a lifetime supply.

Edit: Add pic from google tongue.gif
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ehh why didnt i think of that, got a few lying around....actually if can find those in big cut sheets..then maybe can also use as sound n vibration dampener all around biggrin.gif
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post Dec 26 2006, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM)
Do u just stick the fan on the tape or you somehow screw it ? CAnnot imagine la..  unsure.gif
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think better to screw it thru the double sided tape, u dont want it to come loose in ur casing like i did coz i just just broke a fan blade trying to use pushpins with extra thick paddings/tape...what a waste
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post Dec 26 2006, 10:51 PM

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ya thx for the suggestion sniper...actually works like a charm...fan can push a little higher with slightly less sound n vibration, ....think if got longer screws can stick more tape n try run the fans a little higher....but nvr thot of sticking it so nicely....my job real rojak
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post Dec 27 2006, 02:26 PM

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@ ianho,

ya its actually 2 120mm fans...measured can fit 2 120mm's but ngam ngam only...wonder how that guy mount those fans..

@ J-slade
yup...snipers suggestion works...but i still wanna push the fans higher so that it has enuf cfm to go around 2 hdd....wihtout the added sound and vibration...think neeed to experiment more
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post Dec 27 2006, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 27 2006, 10:09 PM)
bro ianho, u have any idea how to mount 2x120mm fan like in the pic? does the blow hole will do the job?
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actually im also curious..
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post Dec 29 2006, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 12:43 AM)
Such a huge fan.... how is anyone gonna mount that monster?  laugh.gif
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imagine mount a few of those on the side panel.....i think cat walk pass also it will suck into the casing biggrin.gif
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post Dec 29 2006, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Dec 29 2006, 02:04 AM)
haha mayb but i prefer put a big hole fan there then nonit modified the casing so much..
haha btw dun have cap to close the fan.. finger in finger gone tongue.gif

haha btw any1 selling this kind of fan i interest to get 1 pm pls
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come to think of it ur right...where to get 250mm fan grill...anyway abt buying thy rlhh US store bulk....iinm its in one of the links he provided...sorry cant giv u the link coz the net is like kereta lembu...btw if ur thinking of getting one maybe reconsider, coz if order n its faulty or spoil later....u cant actually pop in to Ly for another 250mm's...just my 2sen icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2006, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 11:50 PM)
I realised one thing. My fan (which has a speed controller).. seems to be getting haywire when i plug into the PSU. It seems that the current goes up and down making the fan slow and fast and slow and fast at random..  sweat.gif

I plugged it back to my mobo header.
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could it be the molex connection, i normally plug molex n also push the wires in frm the back to ensure proper contact.
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post Jan 1 2007, 08:19 PM

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not sure but cud be...reason i mentioned abt the molex was bec i noticed its very loose even after clicking it in...n also was reading one of the causes of psu failure along with instability issues was due to coonections not snapped in properly...
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post Jan 10 2007, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 10 2007, 03:59 PM)
another revival thread....

anyone can recommend me 1 80mm fan, and 1 120mm fan, i am looking for LED + CFM , don't care about noise so much.... since my speakers will be louder......
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if u dont care abt noise then 120mm i can recommend...thermaltake smaftfan blue led...model a2018....not sure abt 80mm with leds tho'
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post Jan 13 2007, 12:49 AM

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not sure abt u guys, but referring to the cm blue leds, for mine the led's brightness seems to follow the speed of the fan, even a small rpm change affects the brightness, not steady at all...n it has a small clicking sound, very faint but noticeable...even the cfm is too low. Definitely not on my recommended list ):
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guess its not an isolated case then, anyway the thermaltake smartcase blue leds r not too bad, using a few now so no complains, comes with controller, but sure is noisy at high speed.
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post Jan 13 2007, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 13 2007, 01:15 AM)
price.........RM45 compare to CM RM25
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if ur looking at how much you will safe at the point of buying then i totally agree with u, but if ur looking at extended value then i think the rm20 dif is negligible...give u a few examples, (tried both fans btw):

1) say theres a heatwave n u wanna keep ur case cool, can u do that with the cm?

2) wanna test ur system for stability...say run orthos or prime95, need to run a few hours right? will u dare to leave it unattended with the cm? btw i ran orthos blend at priority 9 for more than 7 hours, my temps increase by less than 10 deg celcius only with the 2 TT case fans running less than half, nvr even bothered to ramp up the cpu fan.

Hope i dont sound coming off too strong as thats not my intention, only wanna save u guyz the money u "think" you'll be saving.
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post Jan 14 2007, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(blackshirt @ Jan 14 2007, 09:30 AM)
Anyone have idea what fan controller to use for high performance fan?

Problem that encounter,

1. When full blast it is find with the speed and also 100% fine condition

2. When fan controller are installed, i can control the fan speed, (This is normal right)

3. I lower down the fan speed to minimum, then the fan start to slow down, AND it will come to a stop,

4. So in this case i think the 'controller' are making this problem right?

5. Any solutions? Or any after market controller to solve this?

PS: Not because of PSU not enough power or weak,

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curious what fan n controlller u using? i think ur fan requires a minimum voltage to run, but anyway it sounds quite dangerous as u or someone might accidentally turn off the fan
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post Jan 14 2007, 02:40 PM

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wow...definitely a high powered fan....maybe get one of the fan experts here to build u a fan controller or build your own...http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312003

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