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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (12) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
South East Counties League 1991
FA Youth Cup 1966, 1971, 1988, 1994, 2000, 2001
Southern Junior Cup 1956, 1971, 1984, 1991, 1998
This post has been edited by rifasha: Feb 24 2016, 10:56 AM
1. Agreed - arsenal under wenger is never good in parking the bus (actually we did one time against man utd in FA cup final which end up win the penalties - that was really a boring game) - only george graham can do it. 2. Yes Cech finally conceded to Messi but there is no shame in losing to one of the best player in the world. 3. Mertersecker, he is currently the best partner for Kosciely especially in BIG games since language is still a thing with Paulista. 4. Agreed - nobody can ever match Barcelona in tiki taka. 5. AW has one more season to go and should be allow to honor his contract.
Nothing about the game ... all about arsenal
QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 24 2016, 09:40 AM)
aku memang admire ke-sabar-an sesetengah rakan Arsenal kita melayan casa, salute!
QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Feb 24 2016, 09:44 AM)
Just admit Barcelona is just too good for Arsenal to beat. First half was actually very good display from the team. The focus and the discipline is there. Second half started a little nervous for the team, you can see the signs of the team are more desperate to score in which Neymar and Messi only need a chance to score. The rest are history.
Ramsey, Ox and Giroud had their chance. Should have bloody put it in the net
QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Feb 24 2016, 09:44 AM)
Ok lar we end the game with 11 men consider good already
QUOTE(huzfah @ Feb 24 2016, 09:45 AM)
For me, alba should have book a red card cause he somehow tanduk giroud. Idk, just my opinion la.
What I notice from Barca players is that they trust their teammates so much. Atking players just have to make the opportunity run and they trust their teammate will find them. If they dont get the pass, they dont get frustrated and try again.
Meanwhile our atking side have been blunt lately. Players hold the ball for far too long thinking who should he pass, would he lose the ball, is target in the best position this n that, overthinking. Our counter atk is alot slower compared to the beginning of the season.
Anyway, never had hopes vs Barca. Focus on BPL will do
The thing is when I see our players try to shoot, it like they take it for granted. And we have 2 players which is one his legs faster than his brain (flamini) and the other one his legs is slower than his brain (per) lol
guess wenger was confident of getting a result yesterdy but unfortunately the players disappointed him.
guess u didn't read the entire article before posting.
Wenger assessed his team's chances of overturning the deficit at about five percent, saying that it will be "realistically really difficult, if not impossible." "But we have to go there and fight," Wenger added. "We have to have a go. And we want to show that we can beat them, and you never know."
anyway until the next barca game ... let's concentrate on the league now ... next game old trafford ... come on gunners.
Barcelona is just doing what arsenal can't do, counter attack and per clearance is just speechless. Imo they hold ball too long at opponent end hence the result.
i think the team is doing pretty ok considering losing to one of the best team in the world currently.
anyway i don't think our team is ambitionless or spineless but i agree we have so much more to improve before taking on giants like barca or real.
hopefully we can start winning this weekend n keep the pressure on leicester, man city n spurs ... go gunners.
this part.
there is so much for us to improve when it comes to tactics. call me bias or whatever you guys want but i have been noticing that the best way to defeat possesion-based teams are to have a strong double pivot first used by heynckes. i witnessed this when bayern destroyed barca and madrid dismantling bayern themselves. the two double pivots, basti n martinez as well as alonso and modric were never too far apart from each other, allowing them to support each other when in possession or in defensive stance. in this formation, one would the the destroyer who sweeps potential threats to the defense while the other pivot would sit deep and in between the two centre backs to distribute and guide the team from deep. i also realized that the destroyer tend play higher up the pitch than the playmaker, on the contrary to popular belief. this allows the teams to break down play initiated by opponent's deep playmaker.
but in order that, we need a proper destroyer who is technical enough. i believe we SHOULD have it in coquelin. but as for the deep playmaker, im sorry to say that no one is good enough for that role. the only player who understands that role is arteta who is already semi-retired. wilshere lacks the tactical understanding and discipline to do well at No.6. Same goes to ramsey. flame we all you want but these two just cheong up the field without thinking about those at the back. fortunately, these things can be taught. and i foresee ramsey to grasp such concepts faster than wilshere.
if we have no choice, we got to look abroad. there are a couple of deep playmakers who might be possible
1. Gundogan- a world class young deep lying playmaker for me. came back to his former self which dismantled madrid and bayern midfield a couple of seasons agi.
2. Xhaka- dubbed the young schweinsteiger by hitzfeld. could be a cheaper option than gundogan.
3. Weigl- heard that pep wants him at man city. been watching this player for this season and he seems to be another busquets in terms of his footballing brain. keeps it simple, releasing the ball shortly after receiving it etc.
4. verrati- i would say he is the next xabi alonso. nuff said.
there is so much for us to improve when it comes to tactics. call me bias or whatever you guys want but i have been noticing that the best way to defeat possesion-based teams are to have a strong double pivot first used by heynckes. i witnessed this when bayern destroyed barca and madrid dismantling bayern themselves. the two double pivots, basti n martinez as well as alonso and modric were never too far apart from each other, allowing them to support each other when in possession or in defensive stance. in this formation, one would the the destroyer who sweeps potential threats to the defense while the other pivot would sit deep and in between the two centre backs to distribute and guide the team from deep. i also realized that the destroyer tend play higher up the pitch than the playmaker, on the contrary to popular belief. this allows the teams to break down play initiated by opponent's deep playmaker.
but in order that, we need a proper destroyer who is technical enough. i believe we SHOULD have it in coquelin. but as for the deep playmaker, im sorry to say that no one is good enough for that role. the only player who understands that role is arteta who is already semi-retired. wilshere lacks the tactical understanding and discipline to do well at No.6. Same goes to ramsey. flame we all you want but these two just cheong up the field without thinking about those at the back. fortunately, these things can be taught. and i foresee ramsey to grasp such concepts faster than wilshere.
if we have no choice, we got to look abroad. there are a couple of deep playmakers who might be possible
1. Gundogan- a world class young deep lying playmaker for me. came back to his former self which dismantled madrid and bayern midfield a couple of seasons agi.
2. Xhaka- dubbed the young schweinsteiger by hitzfeld. could be a cheaper option than gundogan.
3. Weigl- heard that pep wants him at man city. been watching this player for this season and he seems to be another busquets in terms of his footballing brain. keeps it simple, releasing the ball shortly after receiving it etc.
4. verrati- i would say he is the next xabi alonso. nuff said.
Nice write up. I shud email this to hiddink to improve blues game 😄
Is Coq injured? Why Wenger sub in Flamini when we needed a goal. I'm sure he doesn't mean to sub him to close the game so they could focus on BPL instead.
there is so much for us to improve when it comes to tactics. call me bias or whatever you guys want but i have been noticing that the best way to defeat possesion-based teams are to have a strong double pivot first used by heynckes. i witnessed this when bayern destroyed barca and madrid dismantling bayern themselves. the two double pivots, basti n martinez as well as alonso and modric were never too far apart from each other, allowing them to support each other when in possession or in defensive stance. in this formation, one would the the destroyer who sweeps potential threats to the defense while the other pivot would sit deep and in between the two centre backs to distribute and guide the team from deep. i also realized that the destroyer tend play higher up the pitch than the playmaker, on the contrary to popular belief. this allows the teams to break down play initiated by opponent's deep playmaker.
but in order that, we need a proper destroyer who is technical enough. i believe we SHOULD have it in coquelin. but as for the deep playmaker, im sorry to say that no one is good enough for that role. the only player who understands that role is arteta who is already semi-retired. wilshere lacks the tactical understanding and discipline to do well at No.6. Same goes to ramsey. flame we all you want but these two just cheong up the field without thinking about those at the back. fortunately, these things can be taught. and i foresee ramsey to grasp such concepts faster than wilshere.
if we have no choice, we got to look abroad. there are a couple of deep playmakers who might be possible
1. Gundogan- a world class young deep lying playmaker for me. came back to his former self which dismantled madrid and bayern midfield a couple of seasons agi.
2. Xhaka- dubbed the young schweinsteiger by hitzfeld. could be a cheaper option than gundogan.
3. Weigl- heard that pep wants him at man city. been watching this player for this season and he seems to be another busquets in terms of his footballing brain. keeps it simple, releasing the ball shortly after receiving it etc.
4. verrati- i would say he is the next xabi alonso. nuff said.
I wouldn't say no one especially as Santi was doing an excellent job before he got injured. People talk about Coq, Sanchez and Ozil but the way things have panned out turns out Santi was the most vital cog. It is no coincidence that our best football was played with Santi on the field.
I won't jump the gun and condemn Wilshere just yet, will need to see more of him first in this system, playing with these players. However he will need to sort out his injury problems first.
As for Ramsey, sorry to say he just ain't good enough. If a good offer comes in the summer I would seriously consider selling. He is just a workhorse. Nothing more, nothing less.
I would like to see Elneny given an extended run in this role though. He looked very good against Hull playing this deep-ish playmaker role with Flamini as the anchor and some of his through balls were delicious. He has the energy and stamina to transition from attacking to defending quickly and his tireless movement off the ball will undoubtedly free up some spaces as well.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Feb 24 2016, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't say no one especially as Santi was doing an excellent job before he got injured. People talk about Coq, Sanchez and Ozil but the way things have panned out turns out Santi was the most vital cog. It is no coincidence that our best football was played with Santi on the field.
I won't jump the gun and condemn Wilshere just yet, will need to see more of him first in this system, playing with these players. However he will need to sort out his injury problems first.
As for Ramsey, sorry to say he just ain't good enough. If a good offer comes in the summer I would seriously consider selling. He is just a workhorse. Nothing more, nothing less.
I would like to see Elneny given an extended run in this role though. He looked very good against Hull playing this deep-ish playmaker role with Flamini as the anchor and some of his through balls were delicious. He has the energy and stamina to transition from attacking to defending quickly and his tireless movement off the ball will undoubtedly free up some spaces as well.
I'm sorry to say that i do not share the same sentiment as you on that. I do agree that santi is a very good footballer but for this role? We shall see. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this.
I'm sorry to say that i do not share the same sentiment as you on that. I do agree that santi is a very good footballer but for this role? We shall see. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this.
I understand your scepticism about Santi just yet because its just been like probably 15 odd games he has played there having just been converted to that role this season but our best football and wins have come with him in that role especially our wins against Bayern and Man Utd.
Arteta for me was never a good deep lying playmaker. Even at his best for us he was just a decent player at best. High completion of passes % but it was mostly sideways and backwards passing rather than actually doing any "playmaking". So I am actually not even sure if he is even qualified to be called a deeplying playmaker. To me he was more of a pseudo DM rather than one who creates play. He just sits in there in front of the back 4 providing an additional body and just keeps play moving when we have the ball.
But regardless, we can only rely on the players we currently have until the end of the season till the transfer window reopens. So with Wilshere and Santi returning in a few weeks time, we will have everyone fit bar Rosicky. Would you still have Ramsey in that role or would you prefer someone else?
I understand your scepticism about Santi just yet because its just been like probably 15 odd games he has played there having just been converted to that role this season but our best football and wins have come with him in that role especially our wins against Bayern and Man Utd.
Arteta for me was never a good deep lying playmaker. Even at his best for us he was just a decent player at best. High completion of passes % but it was mostly sideways and backwards passing rather than actually doing any "playmaking". So I am actually not even sure if he is even qualified to be called a deeplying playmaker. To me he was more of a pseudo DM rather than one who creates play. He just sits in there in front of the back 4 providing an additional body and just keeps play moving when we have the ball.
But regardless, we can only rely on the players we currently have until the end of the season till the transfer window reopens. So with Wilshere and Santi returning in a few weeks time, we will have everyone fit bar Rosicky. Would you still have Ramsey in that role or would you prefer someone else?
well, in his first season at arsenal, arteta seems capable of playing such role although not to the point of world class. he's just a recycler of the ball which would keep us in possession but not necessarily competent in switching plays from one side to another.
to be honest with you, i would rather have someone else to slot in that role. far too many times have i seen arsenal failing to control the game with and without the ball. a capable deep lying playmaker with commanding experience, technical ability and tactical intelligence should suffice. he does not have to be strong and powerful like yaya toure cause such players are useless in european games. i believe we have seen him getting his ass whooped by those technicians from bayern, barca and dortmund.
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Per Mertesacker insists Arsenal’s problem is up front, not in defence
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“We need to play better on the break and when we have the ball. We could have created more chances and shared the ball better in the final third. Obviously, we need to score. Then, we could have put pressure on them and they would have to come at us.”
Wenger said: “We were impatient in the build-up. We lost balls that we usually don’t lose and it wasn’t because Barcelona forced us to do it. It was just because technically we were not precise enough in our passing.
“We had an unbelievable chance in the first-half [for Oxlade-Chamberlain] and the way we finished our chances is a problem. I feel that in the final third, at the moment, we miss something.”
the ox cuti 3 month..
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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain went off injured against Barcelona on Tuesday .The 22-year-old was assessed on Wednesday and will have a scan on Thursday. But there are concerns he could miss the remaining three months of the season.
lots of criticism about TW14 and rambo performance..
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We laugh at the Rooney situation but ours with Walcott is actually worse.
— J.Elimi (@ArsenalTube) February 23, 2016 I'd prefer Sanchez, Ozil, Oxlade/Campbell anytime any day. Walcott can go to hell
— Mstephano (@AmMstephano) February 23, 2016 What's happened to Walcott? I swear he was sick like 2-3 years ago, borderline world class
— ~ (@loicazette) February 23, 2016 Very poor from Walcott today. Very, very lacklustre. He's hardly ever in the game.
— pear (@HenryM131) February 23, 2016 Walcott was non existent when he came on. Maybe it's harsh on him but recently I just can't see him ever consolidating a starting spot here.
— Joe (@RedAndWhite11) February 23, 2016 I used to defend Walcott.. But I really wouldn't understand what has happened to him. He just disappears in games nowadays.. it hurts really
— Francis (@Flanchich) February 23, 2016 Like seriously what is wrong with Walcott? Why is Campbell not ahead of him when he has contributed so much more?
— Ruaridh MacIver (@RuaridhMacIver4) February 23, 2016
Tom @FourFourTom Arsenal could have played a fridge freezer in central midfield ahead of Aaron Ramsey and the only difference would be more completed passes.
Always Cheating @hailcheaters Still can't believe Aaron Ramsey once scored what seemed like 40 goals in 2013/2014. Stunning # of missed chances this season. Frustrating
jay @JayThakkar31 The thing that annoys me abt Aaron Ramsey is that he didn't even attempt to sprint back in the build up of Barcelona's goal..no future at CM
Bennett Mills @23B_Mills This Arsenal loss is 100% on Aaron Ramsey. If he'd stop trying to outdo Mesut Özil and just play his own game, Arsenal could be up.
Hafiz @HafizRahman100 Aaron Ramsey, runs for days... Average at passing but has the shooting ability of a disabled cow
I think we shouldnt put metersacker in dc. First goal he is up there trying to intercept a pass, failed and left the defend vulnerable. Second goal i am not sure he is trying to stop the ball to himself or making pass to flamini, he should have just clear it. Wondering why wenger prefer him over Gabriel.
I think we shouldnt put metersacker in dc. First goal he is up there trying to intercept a pass, failed and left the defend vulnerable. Second goal i am not sure he is trying to stop the ball to himself or making pass to flamini, he should have just clear it. Wondering why wenger prefer him over Gabriel.
i won't fault mertersacker for the first goal cause there is no way he can track back on time (we know he's the slowest on the pitch), therefore he had to try to intercept the pass but unfortunately did not success.
but the second goal he could have done better ... he should just clear the ball.
as for gabriel, indeed i would prefer him as well especially playing against barca but unfortunately there is a language barrier between gabriel n kocielny, therefore for big games wenger still prefer kos-mert combo.
kroenke, dok parasit profit arsenal, beli ranch merata2 US sampai 500m sanggup. mai tengok game arsenal setahun sekali susah, kalau mai pun tengok muka mcm org kena sembelit je sepanjang2 90min walaupun gol, kalau game american foolball boleh pulak senyum.
List apa ni? season clearance this summer ke? kroenke, dok parasit profit arsenal, beli ranch merata2 US sampai 500m sanggup. mai tengok game arsenal setahun sekali susah, kalau mai pun tengok muka mcm org kena sembelit je sepanjang2 90min walaupun gol, kalau game american foolball boleh pulak senyum.
Do we have 5th choice cb lol? Maybe from under 18?
Agree the problem is heavier on attacking side. Saw how much chances missed on hull game? Leicester?
Our player tend to do fancy moves..they not take the chances seriously..half volley la...bouncing shoot la..since when we got goals from outside box? Only elneny have nice long shooting skills..
we got extra 2 days rest when man utd vs kittyland
hope we win this
sure oracle will come in predicting a man u win ... can't blame him since we r playing at old trafford n after man u beat kittyland (sorry) tonight plus we lack of winning mentality
sure oracle will come in predicting a man u win ... can't blame him since we r playing at old trafford n after man u beat kittyland (sorry) tonight plus we lack of winning mentality
Oracle really pemalas lah that ayat arsenal lack winning mentality copy paste since 3-4 season ago...
Ramsey really shud go back to right wing becos Walcott really not on form yet. Let him use his tireless energy there he can run all he want but don't play play in the middle. Ramsey is better when finding spaces cutting in from the wing. Middle he macam pressure can't combo with Ozil
Kesian Campbell soup actually. He played kinda well but Pak weng prefer ox Instagram
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Sanchez form dropped badly. Everything he tried to keep d ball too long n overdribble. I wonder if it will work if play him as CF and put Welbeck as LW, Theo/Campbell as RW when decide not to start with Giroud? use him far upfront just to draw defenders to mark him more and open up space for others to come up.
Sanchez form dropped badly. Everything he tried to keep d ball too long n overdribble. I wonder if it will work if play him as CF and put Welbeck as LW, Theo/Campbell as RW when decide not to start with Giroud? use him far upfront just to draw defenders to mark him more and open up space for others to come up.
i like the idea to put alexis at front and welbeck as LW.. score 1 or 2 goals in first half and put giroud in at 2nd half.
the BFG is still ok for me, it just he seem lost sometime in the match -> this time in the big match againts barca, tomolo againts manu, dont know what will happen may be there's a bit truth about vieira saying mourinho is a better coach than arsene arsene gave freedom to his players, like when thierry, bergkamp and the others era, really missed those days
Welbeck should start ahead of giroud. My concern is alexis. His form drop tremendously. If only he can replicate his form from last meeting at emirates..
Somehow i got a not so good feeling about tonight.
Saw a article at eurosports saying the ox is for sale at 15mil. Looks like wenger finally lost his patience giving all this underachiever his loyalty...
This arsenal player attitude? No winning mentalities. keown was right about no leadership at the back. henry was right about no reliable striker up front.
when 0-0 i think wenger instruction was, keep calm, control the ball and wait patiently..seize your chance. but with walcott up front, we cant hold the ball at all.
Ramsey and Walcott need to think a lot at the bench for a long time.. Get their places back, both are too comfortable because they always get game time.
Arsenal style of play is like US WW2 paratroopers, like to be surrounded. Both goals conceded bcoz no tall CB. if put Per, bocor x leh bactrack laju2 balik. if pit Gab, bocor atas. haizz...
Ramsey and Walcott need to think a lot at the bench for a long time.. Get their places back, both are too comfortable because they always get game time.
problem is we got no player best at his place...unless catorla is back
At least Ramsey can be seen. He is trying things but just not working out.
The Walcott no where to be seen. The whole 45 minutes just saw him gave the ball away for the 1st goal. This Walcott should be given away for free when the window open. Rubbish overrated player.
At least Ramsey can be seen. He is trying things but just not working out.
The Walcott no where to be seen. The whole 45 minutes just saw him gave the ball away for the 1st goal. This Walcott should be given away for free when the window open. Rubbish overrated player.
I dont blame Ramsey alone here, where is Ozil ?
He should be the main man collecting ball and creating chances.
kalau Ozil turun bawah collect bola, tu nama nya membazir bazir tenaga bazir ruang bazir segala2 nya
dah collect bola dari bawah, then nak pass kat sapa? masa ada Santi memang nampak cun la main macam ni sebab ada link dari bawah ke atas thru depa 2 orang
Theo ni memang mengecewakan la tu beza dia dengan Rambo Rambo kalau main tak jadi pon tak pernah hide away dalam game, keep on trying Theo ni kalau tak jadi main memang hampeh la, dok kontrol handsome ja strolling around the pitch
arsenal dulu, sekarang dan selamanya clearance depan goal mesti ke depan box. tanduk pi depan box, kick pun pi depan box. xdak rasa nk tuju tepi ke, out ke. mana la x bocor. kalau aku main lwn arsenal, takyah susah masuk box, tunggu depan box je konpem dpt bola, standby cannon shoot.
Walcott ni is a disgrace to no 14 henry. Supposedly a successor, but now a regressor. bila bola nk pass kat dia, buat2 nak dapat..tp xdpt. Lepas tu jog turn kebawah xdak urgency. oh wai..100k per week. when contract almost over suddenly we saw a different walcott..score and assisting..demand more money
casa prediction becoming true hahaha arsenal n wenger becoming one level bodo. what use ozil gol still trailing 3-2. this is game to win. red card incoming.
Pissed off with arsenal players. They make mayoo players look good. Our tackles always resulting a free kick. Didnt mark dangerous players movement. attacking players shud juz be direct when they are behind, try to shoot and put more bodies in the box, while back 4 maintaining their shape.
Too many deficiencies. I can accept losing when we really played with our strength..but the last 5 games? Dissapointing.
Wenger said arsenal are not serial chokers, but todays game showed it all
Sure wenger will blame defensive lapse. Sure wenger arsenal will bounce back stronger. sure wenger will say we create more chances but failed to score.
Probably he meant United are in injury crisis. So many youngster on the lineup. Even Theiry Henry said it's the time to attack the mentally and physically wounded United..
when u guys thought its going to be a good night after seeing per and flamini not included, too bad walcott and ramsey were in the team, fucking it up lol
i don't think u understand what u r saying ... Man Utd have every reason to lose ? come on ... other than chelsea i don't understand y Man Utd would want to lose.
i don't think u understand what u r saying ... Man Utd have every reason to lose ? come on ... other than chelsea i don't understand y Man Utd would want to lose.
they have 14 players out no rooney no martial we have 2 days extra rest early yellow for mu players we almost full firepower
Hopeful season but the team screwed up, won't be celebrating St Totteringham's day this year i think. Arsenal fans have been too arrogant or rather childish. i think this will be tottenham's season finishing 2nd at least. Arsenal... 3rd to be really lucky but usual 4th is no problem. Don't think we can retain the FA cup though, if yes it's a consolation to the fan and wenger should really consider retiring.
Most open title race in a decade, best chance to finally win the league and we can't even compete in it!
Player's mentality is one problem. Manager's mentality/thinking is another. What the fk take out Welbeck and bring on Iwobi. Wtf Ramsey can still play 90 mins. Wtf happened to Walcott's footballing brains. He isn't even pacey these days. He doesn't even run much these days. What's he good for..
and then there's Sanchez.. Oh Sanchez.. Apa jadi. one season wonder ke? Or like Ozil, first season played well, second season became a liability, third season baru pick up the pace again?
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tadi masa dok cari link stream, nampak ramai happy dengan line up bila tengok starting line up, taktau yang happy tu dengan pertukaran mana Theo instead of Giroud? Gabriel instead of Per?
The amount of misses a nd mistakes by ramsey each games really getting on my nerves already. Can he at least make it right once?
And against deep Man Utd defenders there is no chance walcott gonna be any useful.
Gab is poor and Kos seem shaky at many occasions. Maybe we should focus on buying 2 new quality cb. Per and Gab is overall decent at best.
Giroud also no where to be found. Sanchez really2 poor. What happen to him?
I gotta to say, LVG really used his defending skills really2 well. Totally different from our last meeting. But 3 out of 6 points vs united is ok with me.
Most open title race in a decade, best chance to finally win the league and we can't even compete in it!
Player's mentality is one problem. Manager's mentality/thinking is another. What the fk take out Welbeck and bring on Iwobi. Wtf Ramsey can still play 90 mins. Wtf happened to Walcott's footballing brains. He isn't even pacey these days. He doesn't even run much these days. What's he good for..
and then there's Sanchez.. Oh Sanchez.. Apa jadi. one season wonder ke? Or like Ozil, first season played well, second season became a liability, third season baru pick up the pace again?
reporting to lone_wolf ohwai- i think he already hiding inside cave
Rambo-Coq combo ni memang membazir. sebab tak reti nak bawak bola from bawah and distribute, dua2 takdak quality ni. Rambo baek la main kanan, ada gak fungsi. fungsi paling utama ialah ensuring Theo tak start hahaha
The line-up for first half was actually good enough to carry the momentum till the 90th minute.
I don't know what's in Wenger's brain by swapping Theo to the front and Danny to the flank. This boy was playing as good as Giroud by creating chances for the midfielders. Replace Danny with Iwobi? Wtf? Ramsey should have been dump to the bench man. He doesn't even deserve to play full match. All three goals conceded was a result of bad defense organization... seriously wtf
Soon Ozil and Sanchez will revolt saying Arsenal is not good enough for them...see la if you don't win the PL this season
That Theo, 10 years at Arsenal pun still one direction dribbling.
Haih.
Seriously man, I do still think Theo is not good enough to start a game. He's much much more effective as a super sub till now...yes, after 10 years in Arsenal.
At least Campbell can bring some balance in the right flank. Iwobi and Theo did nothing at all during the match
This post has been edited by ivanau88: Feb 29 2016, 01:00 AM
Campbell any day ahead of Theo atm.. Yeah Walcott as super sub is a lot better, hell put Giroud as super sub as well, he scored more goals as a sub lol
Arsenal fans have to wait another one season atleast to see new approach/playstyle. This manager no shy to stay until his contract end. And that money-sucking owner no hide that financial is d sole objective. They dun care bout trophy, its the profits at lowest operation cost is all matter, how much can squeez ppl money. M.Utd had entered post-SAF, trying to find stability n soon they going to get it. By that time, we could just enter what they had now. Always one step behind. Past few years for Arsenal in EPL, i rated George Graham style is far better than Arsene.
Am I the only who thinks that Cazorla had quietly became one of our most important backbone of the team? Since his injury, Arsenal had been losing the midfield battle against most of the teams that we face. At first, I tot it was Coquelin's injury but now we can clearly see that it was Ramsey's presence in the centre of the park. Misplace passes, bombing forward (hardly score nowadays), not helping out in defence frustrates the hell out of the fans. What the f*** happen to him? He was so good back then during the 2012/2013 season. Please don't do this in AW's team cos all you need is one good season and you can seal your place in the team forever no matter what happens.
To a larger extent, suddenly you realise that most of Arsenal's promising young star back then had now turn into players where we don't know if they can ever be good enough to play at the highest level. Players like Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs, Chamberlain all seem to have a problem in stepping up their game and turn into world class players. Which is quite sad really because we were so used to being pampered with unknown players turning into world class players in AW's team.
As for tonight's game... WHY DID YOU PUT IWOBI IN AND TOOK OUT WELBECK AT SUCH CRUCIAL MOMENT OF THE GAME!
Finally back from Merrah, a really huge collective fail today from the players to the manager.
The manager - Questionable subs. Not so much on who he subbed in but who he subbed out rather.
The players - Showed absolutely no desire whatsoever. At this point in the run in one would expect players from a "title contender" to be fighting for every ball, chasing down every loose ball, you want to be champions, you play like champions. All I saw were a bunch of pussies standing off opposing players and shying away from the 50/50s. We weren't outplayed but rather thoroughly outfought which is most disappointing.
Credit where credit is due, the spirit, determination and will to win shown by the Man U players today were absolutely spot on. It was a very good performance from them and they fought for literally everything thus thoroughly deserved the 3 points.
On a side note the ref. Craig Pawson was fantastic today. Think he got almost everything right and this is the type of a refereeing performance every big game deserves.
Untung la become Arsenal player. Fans are still ok with scoring 2 goals and just chilling on the pitch without the need to get stuck in and fight for the ball. Lose 3-2 or 8-2 also ok as long get two goals and its already counted as showing "desire" and the will to win.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Feb 29 2016, 01:55 AM
f-in look at how Kun play. why the f we dont have striker that can actually score? the best bet right now should be Danny boy, others should be rotated until they start to insaf and play with all their heart to cement a place in the starting 11
Lay of Ramsey la, almost all the players had a intensive game against barca. They had to be still tired. At least Ramsey was trying.
Daffak Walcott was like the invisible man. We were playing with 10 men for 60 minutes. He is the rubbish.. See the Man U kids, so much passion compare to Walnutt.
For once when I see there are no per and flam in the lineup I really think we might actually doing this right. Apart from walcott, which I think campbell should start, I think the lineup is spot on. Sad to say it the players fault although wenger also has his share.
Untung la become Arsenal player. Fans are still ok with scoring 2 goals and just chilling on the pitch without the need to get stuck in and fight for the ball. Lose 3-2 or 8-2 also ok as long get two goals and its already counted as showing "desire" and the will to win.
The amount of misses a nd mistakes by ramsey each games really getting on my nerves already. Can he at least make it right once?
And against deep Man Utd defenders there is no chance walcott gonna be any useful.
Gab is poor and Kos seem shaky at many occasions. Maybe we should focus on buying 2 new quality cb. Per and Gab is overall decent at best.
Giroud also no where to be found. Sanchez really2 poor. What happen to him? I gotta to say, LVG really used his defending skills really2 well. Totally different from our last meeting. But 3 out of 6 points vs united is ok with me.
It's the same crap years after years since 05/06 & u still can accept it?
AW should be replaced after this season. He's totally tactically 1D & stuck with the Invincibles era. Defeated by a reserved team...that's scary movie quality.
Arsenal ni macam bisnes kumpulan sarkas. Kalau pi tengok sarkas, adakala jadi kagum bila showteam yang keluar tu buat stunt tempat2 tinggi, human cannonball, dsb. Perfect, konfiden tinggi, skill terbaik. Yang ni menghiburkan, penonton tengok sampai lupa tutup mulut. Ada satu lagi team bila keluar semua orang jadi seronok, itu team yang cat muka kaler putih hidung bulat merah. Yang ni pun menghiburkan, penonton hampir nak pecah perut. Dan malam tadi yang muncul kat OT rupa-rupanya adalah kumpulan kedua tu, yang cat muka putih hidung merah. Berjaya juga diaorang buat persembahan tu, sampaikan LVG pun pun join sekali terbaring tepi official. Tahniah buat Arsene dan anak2 buahnya. Patutlah Rowan Atkinson dah buat cerita sarkas dia, dia berlakon sorang2, macamana nak lawan persembahan berkumpulan Arsene & co.
Macam biasa, midweek ni jumpa Swansea, mungkin kumpulan pertama yang buat show (almaklumlah Februari dah lepas) dan selepas tu kumpulan kedua muncul kembali di WHL hujung minggu.
Arsenal fans have to wait another one season atleast to see new approach/playstyle. This manager no shy to stay until his contract end. And that money-sucking owner no hide that financial is d sole objective. They dun care bout trophy, its the profits at lowest operation cost is all matter, how much can squeez ppl money. M.Utd had entered post-SAF, trying to find stability n soon they going to get it. By that time, we could just enter what they had now. Always one step behind. Past few years for Arsenal in EPL, i rated George Graham style is far better than Arsene.
cannot compare liao la bro. times are different. if remain at graham's level, maybe the team is playing with mark hughes style of stoke city liao
Arsenal Players nowadays doesn't bother about winning trophies.
all they know about demanding more money. Walcott/AOX these both should go, especially Walcott. Keep demanding more money, and what the club get the return from him? taking 100k/week and doing $hit. Same to AOX.
10 years. 10 fxcking years for gunners to expect a word class Walcott. See what he has done in the past 10 years? Most of the time is spending in the physio room, flirting around with nurse. Just fxcking get rid of these useless people, and bringing in players who really like to play for us.
1 word to describe yesterday performance, DISGUSTING.
Lay of Ramsey la, almost all the players had a intensive game against barca. They had to be still tired. At least Ramsey was trying.
Daffak Walcott was like the invisible man. We were playing with 10 men for 60 minutes. He is the rubbish.. See the Man U kids, so much passion compare to Walnutt.
Ramsey is trying kudos to him. But its the managers fault for not trying to change things even when seeing his players struggle.
Anyway, United youngsters have little rest compared to us but still looked energetic.
Walcott is a waste. First is the 10 years anni game. Wenger choose emotion rather than strategy. He've scored last game so should let him continue to be sub until he finds his from. Now with failing to produce in such important game, hes confidence is gonna get lower.
16 years doing almost the same, everyone have figured it all out already.
yesterdays lost was not too bad considering against united at old trafford. what was painful was how we lost. the problems we inflicted on ourselves were to me mostly down to wengers strategy and player motivation.
The only player I've noticed who showed Hungry-ness in our team last night is Ozil, only Ozil. The rest like esok lusa, tidak apa. Last minute baru getar.
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The only player I've noticed who showed Hungry-ness in our team last night is Ozil, only Ozil. The rest like esok lusa, tidak apa. Last minute baru getar.
ironically, last season Ozil was that player who didn't show the hungry-ness.
Pity Ozil, this season he's been doing amazing work, alongside Cech who I think both of them have been carrying Arsenal. But then our other 9 players and manager.. Lol..
cannot compare liao la bro. times are different. if remain at graham's level, maybe the team is playing with mark hughes style of stoke city liao
Not the level. The way team approached big game. Graham's hv much committed and passion. Arsene's flopped when pressure at highest.
QUOTE(huzfah @ Feb 29 2016, 11:11 AM)
what with /16? total points? how come 4 matches offer max 16? 4pts for win ke? Anyway if Jan = 5/12 , feb = 7/12 then march = 9/12. we shld be able to guess which match they'll send clown teams. :rolleye:
This post has been edited by HiperPanda: Feb 29 2016, 11:52 AM
I foresee the team would be losing CL, EPL & FA Cup in March.
CL - i don't think we can turn the table around against Barca at Nou Camp.
FA Cup - we wasted our chance against Hull at Emirates but if we can gain momentum of beating swansea n spurs then we should be confidently beat Hull if not then maybe otherwise.
BPL - no point look too far, we need to take each game at a time, n start with swansea (home).
I'm more concerned about Ozil leaving us, also Sanchez if it stays like this. Maybe buying some good player in the next transfer window might convince them that we are still serious. Knowing Wenger, not hoping much will change lol
Most of the players really makan gaji je aku tengok lol! Players like Ramsey, Walcott who has regular game time now seems to be getting worse and not improving. Just bench this guys, and put Elneney, Welbeck, Campbell ahead of them.
Yesterday regarding Gabriel, macam same case also with Per, still not good enough, but maybe need more game time la, since Gabriel doesn't get much. Also Elneney over Ramsey sekali, bagi try haha. Ramsey kelaut je. Lol. Ramsey bodo
This post has been edited by Rei7: Feb 29 2016, 03:39 PM
yup pity to ozil,sanchez and cech..they was win something in their previous club..but now they have to work harder to win the game..wenger should think again about his tactics and player selection..
despite the score line being just 3 2 , i felt that we got rekt lol paid the price with poor defending, walcott non existent, giroud also hardly touch the ball arguably the team huff n puff a lot against Barcelona, i knew that UCL game would some what toll us both teams were poor, but on the night they took their chances better, that's what matter most.
oh well, guess its Casa week, his team won..mesti sedap hati
team need to put on a recovery performance asap, despite fucking up, we arent in that bad shape just yet, fingers crossed
i lol when some of mah liverpool,mu,chelsea friends talked about us self desctruct
i told them, true this is usually our self destruct period, we always do..... then i mentioned....guess i can take comfort, from pool chelsea mu early implode
i terus get the F off messsage
some people are really not too clever when it comes to playing banter, the brain 404
i lol when some of mah liverpool,mu,chelsea friends talked about us self desctruct
i told them, true this is usually our self destruct period, we always do..... then i mentioned....guess i can take comfort, from pool chelsea mu early implode
i terus get the F off messsage
some people are really not too clever when it comes to playing banter, the brain 404
indeed ... some other fans kept talking about our lost n meltdown but they forgot they r still below us despite all.
anyway as long as they r happy with their club i guess it's ok
i lol when some of mah liverpool,mu,chelsea friends talked about us self desctruct
i told them, true this is usually our self destruct period, we always do..... then i mentioned....guess i can take comfort, from pool chelsea mu early implode
i terus get the F off messsage
some people are really not too clever when it comes to playing banter, the brain 404
i lol when some of mah liverpool,mu,chelsea friends talked about us self desctruct
i told them, true this is usually our self destruct period, we always do..... then i mentioned....guess i can take comfort, from pool chelsea mu early implode
i terus get the F off messsage
some people are really not too clever when it comes to playing banter, the brain 404
Seems like MU liv & Chelsea are happy that we lost.
Guess they just need more peoples to share the gua.
demmm....lost because of overconfidence and poor performance all around...i think ozil face says it all after scoring the 2nd goal....he was pissed off about the team's performance...hmmmm....now i see it's leicester's title to lose...hoping for a quick recovery of cazorla....ramsey and coquelin doesn't click at all.....arsenal still can win but provided spurs and leicester to lose at least 2 games while arsenal wins all the remaining games...
What you fail to realise is that fans of those club are aware that what's going on. We know when we are in a position to win and when we are not.
What about Arsenal fans? every season, pants off, hoping to seal the deal, and when presented with a chance to seal the deal, cum on pants.
QUOTE(changchai @ Feb 29 2016, 09:25 PM)
of course every season we hope to win the title, even if this season we don't win it, we will still hope for the best for next season.
that's what fans hope for every year.
if we lose, we lose n we felt sad ... i don't feel consolation if we failed to qualify for CL n felt happy that other team don't win the league.
anyway if u felt happy when other team loses which ur team doing even worst, then it's good for u ... ignorance is a bliss
no offence, but i hope that answers your weird statement bro
saying that we are not aware of whats going on in Arsenal itself is kinda silly bro, saying that we dont know whether we are in a position to win or not is also silly ahhh bro, i am not going to respond to your question it gets weird the more i read it....i cum on my pants after reading your post, it was that intense.
If Arsenal can't win it, I do hope for Leicester to win the league but this will be a major slap in the face to Wenger and the team. Trying to win for 11 years and when we finally have the best chance, we gave the title away to a team who honestly never thought of winning it in the first place.
If Arsenal can't win it, I do hope for Leicester to win the league but this will be a major slap in the face to Wenger and the team. Trying to win for 11 years and when we finally have the best chance, we gave the title away to a team who honestly never thought of winning it in the first place.
leicester is in not only a slap to arsenal ... but to all the big teams in BPL.
it's not that the other team giving chances or what-so-ever, none of the team can even match leicester this season n they should be ashamed to be a BIG club (include arsenal).
n yes we r well aware that this is one of the best chances (with 11 games to go) for a long time to win the BPL, atleast we r fighting to the end unlike the other team who r just watching us with envy.
leicester is in not only a slap to arsenal ... but to all the big teams in BPL.
it's not that the other team giving chances or what-so-ever, none of the team can even match leicester this season n they should be ashamed to be a BIG club (include arsenal).
n yes we r well aware that this is one of the best chances (with 11 games to go) for a long time to win the BPL, atleast we r fighting to the end unlike the other team who r just watching us with envy.
Other big clubs have their "excuses" and won the title recently so not much of a painful slap but Arsenal is the only big club that have not win it for more than 10 years and they have no reason to not win it this time.
Since i joined LYN. I saw a lots of baits, bad / harsh words, but i never reported them. But some useless / uneducated people reported my post because SHE is asshurt. kah kah kah
Other big clubs have their "excuses" and won the title recently so not much of a painful slap but Arsenal is the only big club that have not win it for more than 10 years and they have no reason to not win it this time.
hahaha lame excuses ... if they can't win mean they can't win simple as that ... full of excuses
leicester is in not only a slap to arsenal ... but to all the big teams in BPL.
it's not that the other team giving chances or what-so-ever, none of the team can even match leicester this season n they should be ashamed to be a BIG club (include arsenal).
n yes we r well aware that this is one of the best chances (with 11 games to go) for a long time to win the BPL, atleast we r fighting to the end unlike the other team who r just watching us with envy.
Envy? What pot are you smoking. Those big clubs' disgrace is temporary. Arsenal? The past 11 years
There is nothing to envy. Nope, not the pretty football. It aint so pretty to be honest. Maybe just to the biased Arsenal fan. The bank full of cash? Nope, there are alot of clubs around with cash and with trophies. No point with cash but zero tuttili
I am not a fan of any club. Just cant stand childish delusional fan like you. Blah blah, Arsene is a legend, he won invincible, if not Arsene then who else can manage Arsenal. You have been too delusional for so long you cant even tell whats wrong or right anymore. No player nor manager is bigger than the club. Arsene or not Arsene. You support Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC. And no, Arsene is not equal to Arsenal. Even the great Alex Ferguson a person so synonymous with Man Utd knows when to step down because he knows Fergie does not equal to Man Utd. Man Utd was there before Fergie, and will continue to be after Fergie
And no..... you support Arsenal then you must support Arsene then you must support Walcott and blah blah blah. When you support a team, a club you want whats best for the club. And at this point in time, Arsene no longer is doing Arsenal any good. So for the love of Arsenal, Arsene must go and I am sure majoirty of the Arsenal fans around the world agrees with me
Wanting Arsene to go does not mean you dont support or love Arsenal. Come on. Grow up kid. Now be gone and immense yourself in more excuses like that old fool of a took, watch some old Arsenal tapes if you must to soothe your painfully hurt butt. At least the other fans around here are realistic
This post has been edited by theprobe: Mar 1 2016, 03:56 PM
Envy? What pot are you smoking. Those big clubs' disgrace is temporary. Arsenal? The past 11 years
There is nothing to envy. Nope, not the pretty football. It aint so pretty to be honest. Maybe just to the biased Arsenal fan. The bank full of cash? Nope, there are alot of clubs around with cash and with trophies. No point with cash but zero tuttili
I am not a fan of any club. Just cant stand childish delusional fan like you. Blah blah, Arsene is a legend, he won invincible, if not Arsene then who else can manage Arsenal. You have been too delusional for so long you cant even tell whats wrong or right anymore. No player nor manager is bigger than the club. Arsene or not Arsene. You support Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC. And no, Arsene is not equal to Arsenal. Even the great Alex Ferguson a person so synonymous with Man Utd knows when to step down because he knows Fergie does not equal to Man Utd. Man Utd was there before Fergie, and will continue to be after Fergie
And no..... you support Arsenal then you must support Arsene then you must support Walcott and blah blah blah. When you support a team, a club you want whats best for the club. And at this point in time, Arsene no longer is doing Arsenal any good. So for the love of Arsenal, Arsene must go and I am sure majoirty of the Arsenal fans around the world agrees with me
Wanting Arsene to go does not mean you dont support or love Arsenal. Come on. Grow up kid. Now be gone and immense yourself in more excuses like that old fool of a took, watch some old Arsenal tapes if you must to soothe your painfully hurt butt. At least the other fans around here are realistic
hahaha i wonder what pot u r smoking ... yeah not envy then good for u (i'm sure chelsea/man utd n other clubs love their current position in the league) ... coming over here read a few post n got butthurt.
if 11 years of no trophy for u is a disgrace then we know what type of fans u r (since u r not a fans of any club - guess u won't understand how fans' feeling for their club - maybe u should choose one club to support n have a feel) ... i support arsenal because they r arsenal not just arsenal with trophies. but of course u r free to support which ever BIG club u want.
childish ? hahaha how i wish i am ... since when did i mentioned anything above ? kinda childish to put words in people's mouth don't u think.
not a fan of any club konon-nya but felt burthurt at people's remark .
anyway as a fan of no club u sure hate wenger a lot
This post has been edited by changchai: Mar 1 2016, 04:41 PM
Envy? What pot are you smoking. Those big clubs' disgrace is temporary. Arsenal? The past 11 years
There is nothing to envy. Nope, not the pretty football. It aint so pretty to be honest. Maybe just to the biased Arsenal fan. The bank full of cash? Nope, there are alot of clubs around with cash and with trophies. No point with cash but zero tuttili
I am not a fan of any club. Just cant stand childish delusional fan like you. Blah blah, Arsene is a legend, he won invincible, if not Arsene then who else can manage Arsenal. You have been too delusional for so long you cant even tell whats wrong or right anymore. No player nor manager is bigger than the club. Arsene or not Arsene. You support Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC. And no, Arsene is not equal to Arsenal. Even the great Alex Ferguson a person so synonymous with Man Utd knows when to step down because he knows Fergie does not equal to Man Utd. Man Utd was there before Fergie, and will continue to be after Fergie
And no..... you support Arsenal then you must support Arsene then you must support Walcott and blah blah blah. When you support a team, a club you want whats best for the club. And at this point in time, Arsene no longer is doing Arsenal any good. So for the love of Arsenal, Arsene must go and I am sure majoirty of the Arsenal fans around the world agrees with me
Wanting Arsene to go does not mean you dont support or love Arsenal. Come on. Grow up kid. Now be gone and immense yourself in more excuses like that old fool of a took, watch some old Arsenal tapes if you must to soothe your painfully hurt butt. At least the other fans around here are realistic
I sense arsene worshipper guardian lone_wolf coming...
Other big clubs have their "excuses" and won the title recently so not much of a painful slap but Arsenal is the only big club that have not win it for more than 10 years and they have no reason to not win it this time.
hmm, there is an element of truth in your statement, but to say that they have their excuses its just purely 1 sided bias lol, there is no 2 ways about it, they are just not able to stay consistent at the top, lets not over credit the other clubs.
but yeh, i have to say considering the situation and position we are at right now, expectations is higher for us to win. 11 games to turn that around
i don't deny that what paul merson say may be right ... it's not good losing the title challenge to leicester n especially spurs.
even the BIG team r sacking or already sacked their managers for the inconsistency and instability caused in the team.
however sacking wenger may not be the best thing to do especially when he has one more season to go (i don't think he will renew his contract after this) before his contract ends.
the best thing that the board should be doing is identifying n approaching the best person to take up this role after he left.
i think our chances of winning the title just got a little bit harder.....Santi won't be expected back until May.....which is irrelevant if the team is are not fighting for the title....damn!!!! this is really bad luck....
This post has been edited by RyanAtwood: Mar 2 2016, 09:43 AM
hahaha i wonder what pot u r smoking ... yeah not envy then good for u (i'm sure chelsea/man utd n other clubs love their current position in the league) ... coming over here read a few post n got butthurt.
if 11 years of no trophy for u is a disgrace then we know what type of fans u r (since u r not a fans of any club - guess u won't understand how fans' feeling for their club - maybe u should choose one club to support n have a feel) ... i support arsenal because they r arsenal not just arsenal with trophies. but of course u r free to support which ever BIG club u want.
childish ? hahaha how i wish i am ... since when did i mentioned anything above ? kinda childish to put words in people's mouth don't u think.
not a fan of any club konon-nya but felt burthurt at people's remark .
anyway as a fan of no club u sure hate wenger a lot
I seriously doubt you support Arsenal. You come as a person who support Arsene more. You cant tell the line between supporting Arsene and supprting Arsenal
Cant comprehend why i butt hurt over a club i dont support? Well, just want to troll delusional fan like you only. Just for gags you know
Anyway, despite coming up with excuses n putting up a brave front you cant mask the fact that there is hurt. Deep inside...
Good luck with your continued delusion and the club you support. I am sure there are alot of "club" out there will "envy" what Wenger and Arsenal achieved all through those years. Yeah, you support Arsenal not with trophies. Then wat? You support Arsenal as a non profit organization? Any a charity team? A team is there to win especially given Arsenal's recourses, name and players, else why exists. And yes, a team cant be expected to win all the time, but not winning all the time despite the resources? Get real. You be better off supporting a conference team. There are teams there where you can support without expecting to win anything
Now i am not asking you to stop supporting Arsenal. Not at all. But Arsenal will be better off without fans like you and your blind worshipping of Wenger with a million excuses. And this does not only apply to the Malaysian fanbase
Last trolling of you. See ya around
This post has been edited by theprobe: Mar 2 2016, 11:14 AM
I seriously doubt you support Arsenal. You come as a person who support Arsene more. You cant tell the line between supporting Arsene and supprting Arsenal
Cant comprehend why i butt hurt over a club i dont support? Well, just want to troll delusional fan like you only. Just for gags you know
Anyway, despite coming up with excuses n putting up a brave front you cant mask the fact that there is hurt. Deep inside...
Good luck with your continued delusion and the club you support. I am sure there are alot of "club" out there will "envy" what Wenger and Arsenal achieved all through those years. Yeah, you support Arsenal not with trophies. Then wat? You support Arsenal as a non profit organization? Any a charity team? A team is there to win especially given Arsenal's recourses, name and players, else why exists. And yes, a team cant be expected to win all the time, but not winning all the time despite the resources? Get real. You be better off supporting a conference team. There are teams there where you can support without expecting to win anything
Now i am not asking you to stop supporting Arsenal. Not at all. But Arsenal will be better off without fans like you and your blind worshipping of Wenger with a million excuses. And this does not only apply to the Malaysian fanbase
Other big clubs have their "excuses" and won the title recently so not much of a painful slap but Arsenal is the only big club that have not win it for more than 10 years and they have no reason to not win it this time.
QUOTE(Quick` @ Mar 1 2016, 06:20 PM)
hmm, there is an element of truth in your statement, but to say that they have their excuses its just purely 1 sided bias lol, there is no 2 ways about it, they are just not able to stay consistent at the top, lets not over credit the other clubs.
but yeh, i have to say considering the situation and position we are at right now, expectations is higher for us to win. 11 games to turn that around
QUOTE(is.Nada @ Mar 2 2016, 01:34 AM)
To mask your own's team flaws by saying what he said is an excuse is just shows how delusional you have been.
Are you going to say the same about Barca if they don't retain the UCL this year? lel..
Take your tinted goggles off, you have the FA cup left. Good luck
First and fore most, i don't know what,when or how did i mask our team flaws with my post earlier i got no idea how you interpret my post earlier as masking my team flaws seriously...
no offence bro, i think the hate-excitement got the better of you to premature ejaculate* i think you should ought to spend a few more additional seconds comprehending something before u wanna say something, cause honestly, i think u've put yourself in a bad spot and sound silly...but its okay for now, we are in keyboard warrior zone...nobody will recognize you.
if you LOOK at shenshuen post earlier..sorry i meant UNDERSTAND his post properly, then you should know that the way he word it its indirectly saying if other top clubs win, then its because they are good, and if they don't they have valid "excuse" don't u think its pathetic to say the least? a statement of a win-win situation? then no need to discuss already lor, might as well go and love yourself take a dildo and stuck it up on ones very own hole. not only he over credit other clubs, at same time indirectly take our credits away from being competitive this season and give us none
sorry men, i tolerate none of this shit
delusional? heard that a lot bro...a lot have misuse it but with no proper justification..try not to randomly misuse it next time aite.
and we are talking about BPL teams are we? so why the hell you bring Barce into picture...straying out of topic already bro..so next u wanna bring real, bayern into picture? you sound just like casanova bro, his own club can not pakai this season, bring out other top european teams into picutre, again..pathetic
FA Cup left? last i saw there is 11 premier league games left tinted glass lol, ure cute bro i give u that.
I seriously doubt you support Arsenal. You come as a person who support Arsene more. You cant tell the line between supporting Arsene and supprting Arsenal
Cant comprehend why i butt hurt over a club i dont support? Well, just want to troll delusional fan like you only. Just for gags you know
Anyway, despite coming up with excuses n putting up a brave front you cant mask the fact that there is hurt. Deep inside...
Good luck with your continued delusion and the club you support. I am sure there are alot of "club" out there will "envy" what Wenger and Arsenal achieved all through those years. Yeah, you support Arsenal not with trophies. Then wat? You support Arsenal as a non profit organization? Any a charity team? A team is there to win especially given Arsenal's recourses, name and players, else why exists. And yes, a team cant be expected to win all the time, but not winning all the time despite the resources? Get real. You be better off supporting a conference team. There are teams there where you can support without expecting to win anything
Now i am not asking you to stop supporting Arsenal. Not at all. But Arsenal will be better off without fans like you and your blind worshipping of Wenger with a million excuses. And this does not only apply to the Malaysian fanbase
Last trolling of you. See ya around
u won't have post such a long post or bother replying me if u r not butthurt at all, since u r not a fan of any particular club, i'm sure u been around many of the other clubs forum as well, but reply to me, obviously u felt butthurt to see fans which r optimistic with their chances .
hahaha excuses ? as long as we r still in the hunt i'm all good. n of course come end of the season n we don't win it then of course i'll be sad n then move on with the next season ... that's all
of course i support wenger, just like i supported george graham. i can't blame u for thinking of me as a more of a wenger supporter than arsenal. because u r not a fan so u may not follow us closely and may not have the sentiment of how wenger change our club from a mid-table club to a top club in BPL.
u may think most of the malaysian supporter here support english club because they won something, there r a lot of malaysian fans out there support mid table clubs as well. supporting conference club ? hahaha back at those days (early 90s) we don't have such coverage like these days, anyway arsenal was just a mid-table team during george graham era.
so do urself a favor n stop embrassing urself, just go enjoy ur football.
Other big clubs have their "excuses" and won the title recently so not much of a painful slap but Arsenal is the only big club that have not win it for more than 10 years and they have no reason to not win it this time. First and fore most, i don't know what,when or how did i mask our team flaws with my post earlier i got no idea how you interpret my post earlier as masking my team flaws seriously...
no offence bro, i think the hate-excitement got the better of you to premature ejaculate* i think you should ought to spend a few more additional seconds comprehending something before u wanna say something, cause honestly, i think u've put yourself in a bad spot and sound silly...but its okay for now, we are in keyboard warrior zone...nobody will recognize you.
if you LOOK at shenshuen post earlier..sorry i meant UNDERSTAND his post properly, then you should know that the way he word it its indirectly saying if other top clubs win, then its because they are good, and if they don't they have valid "excuse" don't u think its pathetic to say the least? a statement of a win-win situation? then no need to discuss already lor, might as well go and love yourself take a dildo and stuck it up on ones very own hole. not only he over credit other clubs, at same time indirectly take our credits away from being competitive this season and give us none
sorry men, i tolerate none of this shit
delusional? heard that a lot bro...a lot have misuse it but with no proper justification..try not to randomly misuse it next time aite.
and we are talking about BPL teams are we? so why the hell you bring Barce into picture...straying out of topic already bro..so next u wanna bring real, bayern into picture? you sound just like casanova bro, his own club can not pakai this season, bring out other top european teams into picutre, again..pathetic
FA Cup left? last i saw there is 11 premier league games left tinted glass lol, ure cute bro i give u that.
perhaps he is masking his pain that his club is not doing well this season.
i guess some people does that to have the feel good feeling ... anyway whatever makes him happy.
I seriously doubt you support Arsenal. You come as a person who support Arsene more. You cant tell the line between supporting Arsene and supprting Arsenal
Cant comprehend why i butt hurt over a club i dont support? Well, just want to troll delusional fan like you only. Just for gags you know
Anyway, despite coming up with excuses n putting up a brave front you cant mask the fact that there is hurt. Deep inside...
Good luck with your continued delusion and the club you support. I am sure there are alot of "club" out there will "envy" what Wenger and Arsenal achieved all through those years. Yeah, you support Arsenal not with trophies. Then wat? You support Arsenal as a non profit organization? Any a charity team? A team is there to win especially given Arsenal's recourses, name and players, else why exists. And yes, a team cant be expected to win all the time, but not winning all the time despite the resources? Get real. You be better off supporting a conference team. There are teams there where you can support without expecting to win anything
Now i am not asking you to stop supporting Arsenal. Not at all. But Arsenal will be better off without fans like you and your blind worshipping of Wenger with a million excuses. And this does not only apply to the Malaysian fanbase
Last trolling of you. See ya around
bro i am just curious,
On the Wenger issue what do you propose we as Malaysians Arsenal fan's to do? - write a sack Wenger petition to AFC and their BOD? (retarded behavior) - boycott Arsenal games on TV? (retarded behavior) - boycott Arsenal merchandize to boycott wenger? (retarded behavior) - write a hate Wenger statement at LYN week in week out which is whats going on in MUST on LVG? (retarded behavior) - or there is also nth we can do but just get behind the manager, which is an ideal thing to do as a fan? (blind faith but ideal)
i personally believe, until a club decides to pull a plug on a manager, whoever the club decides manages the club, we as fan should just get behind the manager and support.
Way tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many rubbish has been sprouted on Wenger but with no legit SOLUTIONS given for the p r oblem
cause fuck it, if there is no solutions id take blind faith over retarded behavior
sorry i may sound a bit agitated but i am all open for discussions, lets keep calm and agree to disagree so far nobody has been able to answer me, on the above...i really hope someone out there is able too, perhaps u're the special one to do so.
No offence bro, only Arsenal fans ejaculate prematurely. I think you should take your own advice bro. Before you write something, make sure is not written wrongly. What's premature ejaculate? Do you mean premature ejaculation or ejaculate prematurely? You just made yourself look and sound silly. I agree on you the keyboard warrior zone. Nobody will recognise you too.
How long did you take to write this up? You went to rest, then pick your brain for this lame attempt comeback? I have no idea what you are trying to imply with the dildo asshole metaphor but keep it up. Arsenal fans are fame to be deluded bunch.
Nah, i brought barca in so i can FURTHER EXPLAIN to you because it seems you have the IQ of a 3 years old. Actually my neighbour's dog seem to be smarter than you right now. I have no idea who is casanova and I'm guessing he supports United. Yeah, United sucks the past few seasons. Arsenal? the last 10 seasons bro.
And before i sign off, go get yourself a dictionary if you can't understand simple terms like delusional.
Here's my favourite phrase for elite clubs wannabe like Arsenal:
CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE, YOU'LL NEVER SING THAT
cyaaa
an argument which u think u won with loads of unjustified cheap shots okay bro , if that's how u decide to end and discussion, that's fine by me lol after all ure not the first and never be the last..cya mate
No offence bro, only Arsenal fans ejaculate prematurely. I think you should take your own advice bro. Before you write something, make sure is not written wrongly. What's premature ejaculate? Do you mean premature ejaculation or ejaculate prematurely? You just made yourself look and sound silly. I agree on you the keyboard warrior zone. Nobody will recognise you too.
How long did you take to write this up? You went to rest, then pick your brain for this lame attempt comeback? I have no idea what you are trying to imply with the dildo asshole metaphor but keep it up. Arsenal fans are fame to be deluded bunch.
Nah, i brought barca in so i can FURTHER EXPLAIN to you because it seems you have the IQ of a 3 years old. Actually my neighbour's dog seem to be smarter than you right now. I have no idea who is casanova and I'm guessing he supports United. Yeah, United sucks the past few seasons. Arsenal? the last 10 seasons bro.
And before i sign off, go get yourself a dictionary if you can't understand simple terms like delusional.
Here's my favourite phrase for elite clubs wannabe like Arsenal:
CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE, YOU'LL NEVER SING THAT cyaaa
wow wow
u sapot which club?
This post has been edited by LivingActive: Mar 2 2016, 04:03 PM
On the Wenger issue what do you propose we as Malaysians Arsenal fan's to do? - write a sack Wenger petition to AFC and their BOD? (retarded behavior) - boycott Arsenal games on TV? (retarded behavior) - boycott Arsenal merchandize to boycott wenger? (retarded behavior) - write a hate Wenger statement at LYN week in week out which is whats going on in MUST on LVG? (retarded behavior) - or there is also nth we can do but just get behind the manager, which is an ideal thing to do as a fan? (blind faith but ideal)
i personally believe, until a club decides to pull a plug on a manager, whoever the club decides manages the club, we as fan should just get behind the manager and support.
Way tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many rubbish has been sprouted on Wenger but with no legit SOLUTIONS given for the p r oblem
cause fuck it, if there is no solutions id take blind faith over retarded behavior
sorry i may sound a bit agitated but i am all open for discussions, lets keep calm and agree to disagree so far nobody has been able to answer me, on the above...i really hope someone out there is able too, perhaps u're the special one to do so.
i think i got the wrong person ... so bros
anyway it's weird to someone happy his club not winning in a few seasons but happier to see other club not winning in 10 years.
how do we categorize this type of fans.
This post has been edited by changchai: Mar 2 2016, 04:37 PM
MU, but leave him alone ba, no need to bait him here, later more of his kind will only appear... his intention was just to throw some hard banter here, just that he did it while beating around the bush, icing his banter with cheap shots
see his last post also know d, people focus discussion, he focus on my typo low IQ and all
reminds me of how i used to argue with people during the younger days cant win discussion, there is always aplenty of cheap and lame shots up the sleeve if all else doesn't work, he played the predictable european trumph card
no choice lor bro, we focus present he want to focus the past..let him win that part ba
Since when supporting a club is all about winning tittles ?
Unlike our noisy neighbour, only showed up when they won.
Some of them don't even bother to watch anymore and waiting for other managers to save them.
y support a team that's not winning silverware ? if u want to support team that don't win go support clubs in conference league - according to some people
Alright boys time to get back on track tonight. If we win we are three points behind the top again. And if we beat spuds we are definitely back in it wit. 9-10 games to go. COYG!
No offence bro, only Arsenal fans ejaculate prematurely. I think you should take your own advice bro. Before you write something, make sure is not written wrongly. What's premature ejaculate? Do you mean premature ejaculation or ejaculate prematurely? You just made yourself look and sound silly. I agree on you the keyboard warrior zone. Nobody will recognise you too.
How long did you take to write this up? You went to rest, then pick your brain for this lame attempt comeback? I have no idea what you are trying to imply with the dildo asshole metaphor but keep it up. Arsenal fans are fame to be deluded bunch.
Nah, i brought barca in so i can FURTHER EXPLAIN to you because it seems you have the IQ of a 3 years old. Actually my neighbour's dog seem to be smarter than you right now. I have no idea who is casanova and I'm guessing he supports United. Yeah, United sucks the past few seasons. Arsenal? the last 10 seasons bro.
And before i sign off, go get yourself a dictionary if you can't understand simple terms like delusional.
Here's my favourite phrase for elite clubs wannabe like Arsenal:
CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE, YOU'LL NEVER SING THAT cyaaa
Your neighbor's dog is smart, but why you were the one that bark?