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 www.brickz.my reflects Actual property value?, or loan amount only?

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post Aug 8 2021, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 7 2021, 11:50 AM)
It is transacted price , i know because the place i bought is listed there. Not loan price and all.
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Aug 7 2021, 11:39 PM)
Noob here - transacted price means S&P price, correct?

Meaning it can be the manipulated price (e.g. before cashback and all that rubbish)
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Yes S&P price which is actually not the actual market value of a place.
For subsale transaction, most likely is “mark up price” to bank valuation.

Good example will be:
Flora Damansara - units transacted at 300k.
Mentari Court - units transacted at above 350k.
If you been to both places, definitely you will know it is not worth such pricing.
And a quick check at For Sale ads, can see all ads selling at 100k++ below those pricing.
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post Aug 8 2021, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Aug 7 2021, 11:39 PM)
Noob here - transacted price means S&P price, correct?

Meaning it can be the manipulated price (e.g. before cashback and all that rubbish)
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brickz,my only for subsale transaction.

new project transaction wont appear in brickz, so no "cashback and all that rubbish"
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post Aug 8 2021, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 8 2021, 08:41 AM)
brickz,my only for subsale transaction.

new project transaction wont appear in brickz, so no "cashback and all that rubbish"
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Previously all new projects were in their records as there is no 'negotiation'. Is deemed willing seller buyer basis where some buyers even Q up few nights to buy a unit. The transacted price is based on cost input which is also one valuation method.

Even for subsale, JPPH wont know the SnP is manupilated because it deemed as arm length transaction. Users need to understand and how use the data.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 8 2021, 10:55 AM
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post Aug 8 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 8 2021, 03:14 AM)
Yes S&P price which is actually not the actual market value of a place.
For subsale transaction, most likely is “mark up price” to bank valuation.

Good example will be:
Flora Damansara - units transacted at 300k.
Mentari Court - units transacted at above 350k.
If you been to both places, definitely you will know it is not worth such pricing.
And a quick check at For Sale ads, can see all ads selling at 100k++ below those pricing.
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Thanks for pointing that out and the examples smile.gif

QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 8 2021, 08:41 AM)
brickz,my only for subsale transaction.

new project transaction wont appear in brickz, so no "cashback and all that rubbish"
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Ok thanks I didn’t know new transactions are not included
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post Aug 8 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Aug 7 2021, 11:39 PM)
Noob here - transacted price means S&P price, correct?

Meaning it can be the manipulated price (e.g. before cashback and all that rubbish)
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Yes . Can be manipulated up to bank valuation.
Those cashback thing unless you trust the seller I doubt it will happen.

This post has been edited by Drian: Aug 8 2021, 12:16 PM
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post Aug 9 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 8 2021, 03:14 AM)
Yes S&P price which is actually not the actual market value of a place.
For subsale transaction, most likely is “mark up price” to bank valuation.

Good example will be:
Flora Damansara - units transacted at 300k.
Mentari Court - units transacted at above 350k.
If you been to both places, definitely you will know it is not worth such pricing.
And a quick check at For Sale ads, can see all ads selling at 100k++ below those pricing.
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I found their comments too on mentari Court...same like your comment..it looks like their AI model also doesnt follow inflated transaction price in brickz too..not bad..more accurate imo..seem they also know the market well..like you.. you also got AI brain rclxms.gif
https://propmalaysia.com/property-malaysia/...-bandar-sunway/

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post Aug 9 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jdite @ Aug 7 2021, 03:25 PM)
Don't know how credible is this AI but I find that the data is not accurate personally.
I can't even know what comparables they are using. Not credible/accurate to me imo
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I browse thru their AI models..some with actual data...meaning they are basing on some real data too...otherwise, how to do AI model ...data plug from the sky?

I also found out mentari court (quoted by askarperang below)...their comment=askarperang's comment... accurate too...meaning they are doing good research on it..

i m also shocked to find out they got a lot of very old transacted data up to 1970++...impressive...meaning they are ppl in property business..

This post has been edited by newbiefinder: Aug 9 2021, 05:35 PM
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Brickz data is no longer updated since January.
All are obsolete data.
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post Nov 23 2023, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ Nov 23 2023, 09:51 AM)
You must understand that all transactions data are monopolized by one profession only.
In other country, anyone can access such information because it's public information.
Try searching for property information in Singapore and Hong Kong. You will get it.
Over in Bolehland, even in the era of technology, still wanna protect certain professionals by giving them monopoly over certain information.
How can you grow a market when you allow a parasite suck some fees for each transaction?
Why are Rakyat forced to hire them ?
Can u not hire them and still get loan?
In the old days, I don't need to pay them to get loan
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Different country, different practice, backed to the market price its all about willing buyer, willing seller, supply and demand.
At some country their house is sold by public auctioned (authorised by owner, not the force sell by bank), so every property transected is based on the market willingness price, so the bank will borrow them loan based on bidden price how many %. But in malaysia its different, how to determined the right amount bank willing to loan, compare to a normal people, bank will most believe in a professional.

Very simple, renovation cost. Do you think renovation cost should count in loan? How valuer see a property price at bank respective (business man) vs seller (owner) is total different.

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QUOTE(Aldo-Kirosu @ Nov 23 2023, 02:26 PM)
Different country, different practice, backed to the market price its all about willing buyer, willing seller, supply and demand.
At some country their house is sold by public auctioned (authorised by owner, not the force sell by bank), so every property transected is based on the market willingness price, so the bank will borrow them loan based on bidden price how many %. But in malaysia its different, how to determined the right amount bank willing to loan, compare to a normal people, bank will most believe in a professional.

Very simple, renovation cost. Do you think renovation cost should count in loan? How valuer see a property price at bank respective (business man) vs seller (owner) is total different.
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You're speaking from very macro level. In reality, we often see how manipulation of certain market is conducted by a group of professionals

I can't say too much here but if you're in the industry yourself, you will understand what I mean

This post has been edited by boyboycute: Nov 23 2023, 02:34 PM
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post Nov 23 2023, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ Nov 23 2023, 02:32 PM)
You're speaking from very macro level. In reality, we often see how manipulation of certain market is conducted by a group of professionals

I can't say too much here but if you're in the industry yourself, you will understand what I mean
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rolleyes.gif i think i know, but i will said, for property industry, it will be the best thumbup.gif those professional give high value to each property on request. devil.gif their money is based on the value mah, value higher, salary also higher.

rolleyes.gif If they cant be manipulate by some party request or corporate with some party, every one is suffering, seller, guru,developer,agent, etc. only bank happy because less risk involved. Now a day a lot people are not leverage feature money / value & credit only, but most of them leverage RISK to earn fast, get rich faster. icon_idea.gif

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post Apr 15 2024, 08:29 PM

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Is Brickz website still in operation?

Cause I bought the report but I didn’t get it and their support number doesn’t seem to work.
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post Apr 15 2024, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(theodore_kh @ Apr 15 2024, 08:29 PM)
Is Brickz website still in operation?

Cause I bought the report but I didn’t get it and their support number doesn’t seem to work.
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i've purchased a report in Feb 2023. it takes 6 days before they send me the report, and that's only after a few follow up emails sent to the the support. and the township i frequently viewed was last updated Dec 2023

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post Apr 16 2024, 09:03 AM

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Brickz website getting worse....

Seems like don't know what happened to them...

Reports also not so latest updates.... Financial issues or manpower issues....
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post Apr 16 2024, 09:16 AM

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I remember reading Brickz was bought over by some property company quite a long time ago. I think Brickz now is longer managed by the founder or original team, and the company that bought over probably stop updating it.
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post Apr 16 2024, 09:17 AM

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i think the government agency JPPH has stopped supplying the data to them.
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post Apr 16 2024, 09:56 AM

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One could buy valuation report from licenced valuer.
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post Apr 17 2024, 02:17 AM

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Even the website itself is down quite frequently these days.
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post Jan 17 2025, 12:36 PM

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Data collected from Rakyat should be supplied back to Rakyat at minimum cost because the Data belongs to Rakyat in the first place.



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