Malaysians are destroying the country with the Foreign Workers issue.

1st they want everything cheap, cheap food, cheap services, cheap houses, but to make these cheaper businessman have to reduce cost, and labor cost plays a big portion in the month expenses.

Then Malaysians themselves want High Salary, then don't want work in low class jobs, so who work in the kitchen? You think food cook themselves and fly to your tables on your own? Then when people hire local, say their price too expensive not worth it boycott go Mamak eat cheaper.

With less & less locals willing to work lower tier jobs, the demand for low tier workers increase, and since locals not willing to take the jobs, how? have to bring in from other countries, JUST LIKE SINGAPORE.

you think another 1.5million bangglas is alot? it's alot when you put them in a taman, but you count just F&B how many outlets are there just in KL? Assuming 1 outlet need 10 workers, you think 1mil is sufficient for whole Malaysia? Don't forget construction sites needs even more workers. Last time Indonesians work in the industry but now their rates has gone up contractors have no choice, Banggla workers offers the best rates now, Myanmar, Viet & Pinoys are considered expensive and they rather work in Singapore or Hong Kong.

just because people turn the issue into political issue, everyone starts shouting about Foreigner Workers issues.

now everywhere also spot check foreign workers, soon the availability for foreign workers will drop, as demand increases, business have no choice but to pay higher salary to them, and in turn, consumers have to bear the added cost, so what you will see in near future is even further price hikes on everything involving low tier worker inputs. and by canceling the addition 1.5mil work force, and existing foreign workers permit expires, demand for low tier workers will soar. And since Malaysians dislike Bangglas so much, government have to go for alternatives like PRC/Viet/Pinoy/Indons which are much more expensive, and doesn't mean they won't bring in less problems.

if you don't want foreigners to invade your country, you have to take up the local jobs la, or you expect Malaysia to hire foreigners to fill up the armed forces and defend our country should war happens?

want cheap, but don't want work, want higher salary, you do know you are contradicting yourselves?

but thing is Singapore is very strict with their immigration & borders, and also paperwork, you can simply change line of jobs, your permit expire no one will dare hire you. and the interviews are more stringent.

rarely you hear Singapore Polis go around shops or construction sites to round up workers & check their permits, rarely polis stop vehicles on road to check foreigners ID, and Never would a Singapore Polis halt a public bus and spend 15 minutes just to check foreign workers on board and make everyone on the bus wait.

i know some industry typical Chinese Restaurants will hire local Chinese, PRC, Myanmar, rarely i see Banglas, but their food price is rm18 per vege dish. but most F&B nowadays hire mainly Bangglas, even the restaurant manager they also hire banggla.

usually if Manager is Chinese service will be better becoz the manager will whip the workers, otherwise few customers off peak hour also service very bad.

general higher salary actually lowers the buying power of general people, why? because even though you get $10 extra pay, you have to pay $1 more for your meals, because to cover the cost of increasing salary, business have to increase their price, if it's only for certain industries that is considered non-essential like Fashion/Art/Music then it's ok, people will become more selective when spending, but if it involves general population, all Business have to increase price to cover the increased Wage, and for individuals, they end up have to pay more than the additional they received. it'd be better for salary & price to stay consistent but it's not possible, because business involves risks, when you have to up your labor cost, you need to add a few % to cushion certain risks, and supplies cost will also go up because your supplier also have to increase their labor cost, all this just snowball from top to bottom, and guess who is at the bottom? The General Population.

This is why it's so important to source income from foreign countries, at the cost of those less developed countries, because if America solely rely on local economy, no way Americans would be able to enjoy the good life they are leading right now, a Car for $12k, an Iphone for $800? no way.

Hiring Cheaper Foreign workers means despite the increase salary of locals, these workers who offer cheaper labor acts as some sort of cushion, so you don't have to spend more than you would should Malaysia employ full of locals.

Always remember the hand that feeds you.

Unless you work overseas it's a different story. For countries like Europe & USA they have 3rd world countries to absorb their cost, but for Malaysia, we are now near the bottom of the World Economy, PRC/Thailand/indon/Philippines are already either shoulder to shoulder with Malaysia or already surpassed us, so we have to suck ourselves and no one to absorb our costs.

Singapore is way denser than Malaysia, with fb/twitter & more importantly the infamous STOMP, someone fart the whole island will also know.

or you never been to Singapore?

there's a difference between controlled import vs cincai import.


Singapore have very strict requirements & system, and the small island means it's easy to track.

Malaysia is bigger, lower security rating, and undertables this & that and lack of experience & quality officers, and the fact that Malaysia wants lower rates means we get 2nd or 3rd tier workers, good ones all go SG/HK.

For countries like Australia, many people jump aeroplane, but they usually work in rural places, and usually these folks are decent people, comes from decent countries like Malaysia, they know they are less troublesome, so they might not go 100% strict but once caught you will be deported.

Europe, no cure already, only Swiss will survive because their system are like Singapore very tight & closed system.

have you tried to post something suppose to be censored online while in Singapore? don't think you do.

Even China with top of the line great wall also cannot stop netizens from spreading news, even by word of mouth 1 day already enough for half of Singapore to catch the news.

last i checked many Big Hotels are making loss, mainly because the operating cost is that high, the cost of foreigners contribute very little effect, they hire foreigners because most locals don't want to work as valet/bellboy/cleaners, they only want desk job or manager positions. smaller hotels still hire local workers.

last i checked many Big Hotels are making loss, mainly because the operating cost is that high, the cost of foreigners contribute very little effect, they hire foreigners because most locals don't want to work as valet/bellboy/cleaners, they only want desk job or manager positions. smaller hotels still hire local workers.

because still cheaper than locals, compare apple with apple, a local senior cost more than a Indian senior. this is especially true for high paying industry like O&G & consultant firms, and of course IT.

you hire locals pay higher wage higher operating cost sell similar food compared to bigger chain players who has alot more money to pour in and they hire bangglas to lower their cost and sell same or lower price than you, your food & service might be better, but as economy tightens up people will have no choice but to go cheaper option, soon you find yourself losing money, not because your business is bad, but because rental & utilities has risen so much that the extra pay for hiring locals becomes even a bigger burden, so what you do? you and those shops you encourage hire locals because of social responsibility closes shop, what's left are those chain shop that continue to hire bangglas and open up more & more chain shops, like how Western countries are flocked with the same chain shops all over the country.

In the end like you say it survival of the fittest, you and the rest of the local lose.

ur company facing crisis, everyone knows you will close shop, your company can pay this kind of salary doesn't mean it will have money to pay them, if you do biz i pity your shareholders.

you need to read more dude, like really more. can't believe you claim to have traveled to alot of countries.

you think biz all own by 1 tauke? or you think the banggla manning the cashier is the takue?

you know majority local crimes are done by local Malaysians?

i agree, the Hygiene thing can actually be trained, but local owners & managers themselves also not very hyginic so how to train?

i suggest the authorities have a 3 day work shop for workers coming in to work in F&B before they are allowed to leave the training center. you go see McDonalds all hire locals, i don't think the hygiene level is anything near acceptable.

eat outside, better just look at your phone, don't look at how the workers work, how they wipe the table then go take your food without washing hand, use same cloth to wipe your table then your chair, and never try to peek inside the kitchens.

but i think Vietnam people are the smartest, they don't speak chinese at all in Viet, but come here 3 months can speak basic already. many restaurant prefer them as waiter because they learn fast.

banggla, some english really, ask water also cannot understand. but can see they are trying, but not as smart as viets.

Those foreign workers that do crime are mainly Indonesians, 1 reason is they are smarter and been in Malaysia long enough to know they are underpaid, and constantly looked down by locals, plus political hatred between Indonesia & Malaysia makes it worse, also Indonesian like Pinoys are fighters, Bangglas come here just want to make a living, they only cause trouble when they are mentally ill or lost their job and on the brink. Not saying they never commit crime but your statement is exaggerated.

Local people cause more harm & crime, in terms of % by population, crimes by foreign workers is much lower than crimes by locals.

but does all F&B workers require such cert to work in F&B? because if it's optional no use, for you might be useful when you look for jobs in F&B, but most owners don't care as long as cheap and know how to work.

last time McD worker wiping table, then go attend icecream stall, make sunday cone, never wash hands, even though got paper holder, still not hygiene at all. if they handle money, they should either wear gloves when making icecream and take them off when handling money.

so far only Subway looks ok their hygiene standard, but i never see how the kitchen works.

and expensive Restaurants will have waitress specifically handle food, and general workers doing the cleaning,and they have trays. but kitchen i dunno, maybe korek nose while cooking. many times i found hair in food already...

while business want to maximize their profit by minimizing their cost, they have to maintain commutativity, of course we are talking about non monopolized industries, like F&B/Retail, if we talk about automative, no need talk lo.

so in short lower wage will still have big impact on food pricing.

think zero sum game, you get more pay, that extra needs to come from somewhere, where? Consumers of course. And who's the consumer? You your goodself lo.

So technically you are paying for your pay rise, but you get less in return.

only 1 guy here puji they intelligent. most people complain but make do with it because they low wage & willing to work long hours.

higher quality ones are Pinoy, PRC & Vietnamnese, but they rather go Singapore than Malaysia, so those who work here, are tier 2 or 3 workers.

have you been to a Bangla hostel? local kampung people might not mind the wage but cramping 10 of them in 1 room? they live so comfortable back in their kampung.