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sonerin
post Aug 28 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Aug 28 2017, 06:29 AM)
Is the fifth foot or call ART really useful or just a gimmic
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Is quite useful as the AVR is quite heavy. It help to support the weight
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post Aug 28 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 28 2017, 09:35 AM)
Is quite useful as the AVR is quite heavy. It help to support the weight
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No really to support the weight, but to reduce vibration.

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post Aug 28 2017, 08:58 PM

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When using video processing i remember the video adjustment from 1-6 is like changing brightness or contrast but mine any number press like no respond, but my A2040 have changes when video adjustment number press. Is it A3060 is different

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Aug 28 2017, 08:58 PM)
When using video processing i remember the video adjustment from 1-6 is like changing brightness or contrast but mine any number press like no respond, but my A2040 have changes when video adjustment number press. Is it A3060 is different
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Not sure what you mean
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post Aug 28 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 28 2017, 09:03 PM)
Not sure what you mean
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Remote control go to option then press video processing then can select direct or processing. After select processing ( upscale) then below got video adjustment,select from 1-6, each number represent brightness or contrast but mine press from 1-6 also no respond. Any ideal or it like that for this model.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Aug 28 2017, 10:39 PM)
Remote control go to option then press video processing then can select direct or processing. After select processing ( upscale) then below got video adjustment,select from 1-6, each number represent brightness or contrast but mine press from 1-6 also no respond. Any ideal or it like that for this model.
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No idea. Never use it before.
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any sifu using Yamaha YSP-5600? is it that good?that price i can get a decent tv d
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any sifu using Yamaha YSP-5600? is it that good?that price i can get a decent tv d
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Not worth it
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 29 2017, 11:10 AM)
Not worth it
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okay, what product u recommend? biggrin.gif
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For sound bar, just get something cheap will do.

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Good news there is a firmware upgrade for AVR A50 A60 N A70 series but for 50 n 70 series only stability but 60 series add Tidal/Deezer n stability upgrade
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 2 2017, 08:10 PM)
Good news there is a firmware upgrade for AVR A50 A60 N A70 series but for 50 n 70 series only stability  but 60 series add Tidal/Deezer n stability upgrade
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Thanks for the info
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QUOTE(raimond @ Nov 3 2017, 09:05 PM)
Thanks for the info
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Anyway still waiting for Dolby Vision n HLG firmware upgrade. I think should be out very soon
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 5 2017, 10:07 AM)
Anyway still waiting for Dolby Vision n HLG firmware upgrade. I think should be out very soon
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Yamaha rep on AVS says December 2017.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 6 2017, 04:20 PM)
Yamaha rep on AVS says December 2017.
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That is good news only 1 month to go rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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I am using a Yamaha RX-A1060 with 3 KEF LS50s and a KEF HTB2 subwoofer for what is currently a 3.1 setup. I have just finished setting up everything after moving here so it is time to get the rear speakers now. However, I am worried if the A1060 can effectively power all the speakers if I get another LS50 pair for that purpose. The system works pretty well right now and it doesn't sound underpowered at all though every review indicates that the LS50s are very power hungry. Or should I go with a Q100 pair which should be timbre matched?
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QUOTE(physdude @ Nov 12 2017, 08:17 PM)
I am using a Yamaha RX-A1060 with 3 KEF LS50s and a KEF HTB2 subwoofer for what is currently a 3.1 setup. I have just finished setting up everything after moving here so it is time to get the rear speakers now. However, I am worried if the A1060 can effectively power all the speakers if I get another LS50 pair for that purpose. The system works pretty well right now and it doesn't sound underpowered at all though every review indicates that the LS50s are very power hungry. Or should I go with a Q100 pair which should be timbre matched?
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The better timbre match is actually the Q150/Q350 instead. The Q100/Q300 sounds nothing like the LS50 IMO.

Anyways to answer your question. Yes the LS50s are inefficient speakers, a 1060 at 5 channels driven puts out around 90-100 watts at 8ohms 20hz-20khz full bandwidth (rough calculation from me based on the stupid "JEITA" specification, whatever the hell JEITA means) at under 0.1% THD.

90 watts for most people, is enough. But wattage is related to how far you sit from your speakers, how loud you play and how big your room generally is (although room size is less important in comparison to the sub). If you are going to be doing things like "multi-stereo" for 5 channels at reference volume (good bye your ears) regularly where you sit like 20 ft away from your speakers, then no - 90 watts isn't going do your speakers any justice. You may even hear distortions and worse, clipping.

But there's more to just wattage for "power" as a measurement. Transients and clean delivery is also a factor in determining sound quality, especially when it comes to dynamics and the low end. The Aventage receivers has a fairly decent topology and they do well enough for their intended purposes. But Yamaha do have a hard limiter on their amps (which is why you'll rarely hear or see a Yamaha amp be hot enough to fry an egg) which in some cases, can indeed hurt dynamics.

Amps aren't super expensive now a days though - you have good quality amps at a considerably decent price like the Emotiva BasX line. So my suggestion is, get your rear speakers and hook it all up to your receiver. Hear how it sounds, hear if it's enough to hit your intended SPL, then decide if you need an external amp. Remember, you are also crossovering the sub-bass to your sub which takes the majority of power requirements on the LS50s.

TLDR; The worst decision you can make in this hobby is to buy everything at once and then realize you don't need the extras. Do it one at a time.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 13 2017, 04:27 PM)
The better timbre match is actually the Q150/Q350 instead. The Q100/Q300 sounds nothing like the LS50 IMO.

Anyways to answer your question. Yes the LS50s are inefficient speakers, a 1060 at 5 channels driven puts out around 90-100 watts at 8ohms 20hz-20khz full bandwidth (rough calculation from me based on the stupid "JEITA" specification, whatever the hell JEITA means) at under 0.1% THD.

90 watts for most people, is enough. But wattage is related to how far you sit from your speakers, how loud you play and how big your room generally is (although room size is less important in comparison to the sub). If you are going to be doing things like "multi-stereo" for 5 channels at reference volume (good bye your ears) regularly where you sit like 20 ft away from your speakers, then no - 90 watts isn't going do your speakers any justice. You may even hear distortions and worse, clipping.

But there's more to just wattage for "power" as a measurement. Transients and clean delivery is also a factor in determining sound quality, especially when it comes to dynamics and the low end. The Aventage receivers has a fairly decent topology and they do well enough for their intended purposes. But Yamaha do have a hard limiter on their amps (which is why you'll rarely hear or see a Yamaha amp be hot enough to fry an egg) which in some cases, can indeed hurt dynamics.

Amps aren't super expensive now a days though - you have good quality amps at a considerably decent price like the Emotiva BasX line. So my suggestion is, get your rear speakers and hook it all up to your receiver. Hear how it sounds, hear if it's enough to hit your intended SPL, then decide if you need an external amp. Remember, you are also crossovering the sub-bass to your sub which takes the majority of power requirements on the LS50s.

TLDR; The worst decision you can make in this hobby is to buy everything at once and then realize you don't need the extras. Do it one at a time.
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Thanks so much for a very informative post! I don't listen to my music very loud as I mostly listen to classical music and also because I sit fairly close to the speakers. For the movies, a tiny bit of distortion in the loud scenes will probably not matter that much (clipping, of course, will be very bad). Hence, I think the 1060 will probably be sufficient for me. Thanks for the info about the Q100 not being timbre-matched. I think I might just about splurge for the additional LS50 pair and see how it works out.
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QUOTE(physdude @ Nov 15 2017, 12:57 AM)
Thanks so much for a very informative post! I don't listen to my music very loud as I mostly listen to classical music and also because I sit fairly close to the speakers. For the movies, a tiny bit of distortion in the loud scenes will probably not matter that much (clipping, of course, will be very bad). Hence, I think the 1060 will probably be sufficient for me. Thanks for the info about the Q100 not being timbre-matched. I think I might just about splurge for the additional LS50 pair and see how it works out.
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No problem, good luck!

Love the LS50s too. Great speakers.

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