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ccschua
post Mar 16 2016, 02:00 PM

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i am new to receivers.

I am planning to get 1 unit of A850 at RM 3700. will use it to drive a pair of Dynaudio Focus 140. not sure if A850 has enough juice to drive this 4ohm 86dB speakers.

was considering A1050 if not for the price difference. after will use it mostly for stereo plus mid for movies, with future upgrade to satellites.

also considering V479 but reasearch shows A850 adventage uses better components rite and newer.
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post Mar 16 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 15 2016, 09:40 PM)
Have you considered EMotiva XMC-1?
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I have actually and they're a good candidate as a pre/pro. Of course that means I'll be needing more than a single XPA-5 to complete an Atmos/DTSX setup. It's all about price at the end though.

I'm sure a Yamaha 3060 + Emotiva XPA5 (or 3) would be cheaper than a pre/pro + multi-amp setup, yet the sound quality difference wouldn't be significant. Different in signature yes.


QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 02:00 PM)
i am new to receivers.

I am planning to get 1 unit of A850 at RM 3700. will use it to drive a pair of Dynaudio Focus 140. not sure if A850 has enough juice to drive this 4ohm 86dB speakers.

was considering A1050 if not for the price difference. after will use it mostly for stereo plus mid for movies, with future upgrade to satellites.

also considering V479 but reasearch shows A850 adventage uses better components rite and newer.
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Should be adequate. If you were going to do pure stereo, wouldn't have suggest a receiver. Better to go for an integrated amp instead, but since your plan is to go surround then yeah, the A850 fits the bill as long as you understand that DTSX would not be an inclusion.

If you don't have enough power in the future, you can always get an extra amp for your fronts since the A850 has pre-outs.

The A550, 579, 479 and 379 shares the same power supply (360w IINM).
The 679, 779, A750 and A850 shares near identical power supply, with the A850 only having a 400w IINM.

Despite being called an Aventage, the A750 and A850 does not share many of the components found on the A1050, 2050 and 3050. The A850 is basically the top of the line no corners cut (interms of design within the category) for the mid-range market, everything else below it is trickled down with components and features.

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post Mar 16 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 02:00 PM)
i am new to receivers.
I am planning to get 1 unit of A850 at RM 3700. will use it to drive a pair of Dynaudio Focus 140. not sure if A850 has enough juice to drive this 4ohm 86dB speakers.
was considering A1050 if not for the price difference. after will use it mostly for stereo plus mid for movies, with future upgrade to satellites.
also considering V479 but reasearch shows A850 adventage uses better components rite and newer.
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that would depend u run as large (no crossover to subwoofer) or small (filter out bass to subwoofer).
large setting may require u enable biamp mode to fully push without affect the tweeter performance
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:33 PM

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A3060 is out already?

Any price cut for A3040?
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post Mar 16 2016, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 16 2016, 05:33 PM)
A3060 is out already?

Any price cut for A3040?
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Don't think there is A3060 yet. Current is still A3050
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post Mar 16 2016, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 16 2016, 06:05 PM)
Don't think there is A3060 yet. Current is still A3050
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Hahaha... hope xx60 come out fast, so we can enjoy price cut on old models, especially at the AV show.
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post Mar 16 2016, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 16 2016, 06:09 PM)
Hahaha... hope xx60 come out fast, so we can enjoy price cut on old models, especially at the AV show.
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Yamaha had increase price about 20% for all models since last year end. Even the new model come out the price will be high
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post Mar 16 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 16 2016, 06:12 PM)
Yamaha had increase price about 20% for all models since last year end. Even the new model come out the price will be high
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Thank you Ah jib kor.
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post Mar 16 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 16 2016, 04:42 PM)
that would depend u run as large (no crossover to subwoofer) or small (filter out bass to subwoofer).
large setting may require u enable biamp mode to fully push without affect the tweeter performance
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mistake. A850 is RM 3450.

how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 06:41 PM)
mistake. A850 is RM 3450.

how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?
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Yes
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 16 2016, 06:19 PM)
Thank you Ah jib kor.
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Interesting is Yamaha 100% buatan malaysia
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post Mar 16 2016, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 06:41 PM)
mistake. A850 is RM 3450.

how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?
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Are you sure RM3450? That was last year's price, this year is already RM36xx.

Just use the presence speakers output + front out into the speakers. You can't run 2 A850s side by side into a pair of speakers.
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 06:41 PM)
mistake. A850 is RM 3450.
how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?
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its a function to assign unused speaker terminal.
so that tweeter has own amp, big cone has own amp independantly.
u need to remove the jumper link from speaker side, run extra 2 cable.
im using this method

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 16 2016, 09:32 PM)
Are you sure RM3450? That was last year's price, this year is already RM36xx.
Just use the presence speakers output + front out into the speakers. You can't run 2 A850s side by side into a pair of speakers.
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thank you sifu for pointing out the actual step thumbsup.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 11:19 PM

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Too bad the Dynaudio is single speaker terminal.

I wonder how good is music cast speakers. is it able to keep up with long range and no lag ? is it reliable ?

does anyone use music cast for atmos ? if musicast requires power cable, might as well run speaker cables ?
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 16 2016, 10:40 PM)
its a  function to assign unused speaker terminal.
so that tweeter has own amp, big cone has own amp independantly.
u need to remove the jumper link from speaker side, run extra 2 cable.
im using this method
thank you sifu for pointing out the actual step thumbsup.gif
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the price is without warranty.
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post Mar 17 2016, 06:21 PM

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Going to be doing some proper YPAO measurements today. Will compare it with manual tweaking consisting of REW + UMIK1 + Radioshack SPL Meter + Time tongue.gif


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QUOTE(bombaday @ Feb 20 2016, 04:19 PM)
Noted. Usually Yamaha sellers might bundle the V579/V679 with SPK160 at a lower price. So far these are the packages I have seen in Harvey Norman, Senheng, etc or online websites. Where else I might able to find Yamaha re-seller?
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You might want to try Gemfive for the v697 for RM2019 after RM280 coupon if they still have stock. You might want to call desa home (kepong/lowyat) to confirm availability to avoid disappointment.

For spk160 you can try vbiz.com if you can self-collect, otherwise the transport cost will significant. They sell a range of yamaha products. Just remember that the prices shown is before gst. Prices have gone up since I bought from them at RM2109.40 inc. gst.
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post Mar 20 2016, 12:41 PM

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I wonder how much can my yamaha A2040 avr sell at present moment age around 1years+.tq
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Around 4-5k+ shouldn't be a problem?
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Maybe 3k

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