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ehklee
post Mar 2 2016, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 2 2016, 05:34 PM)
So DD works, but DTS is being decoded into PCM?

Okay, one other question; is the PCM stream in 2.0 or multi-channel LPCM? Because if it's the latter, you actually have nothing to worry about (as long as the multi-channel source is being played properly to the exact speakers).

How to check this? I'm still a newbie. Sorry for asking too many questions
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(ehklee @ Mar 2 2016, 07:31 PM)
How to check this?  I'm still a newbie. Sorry for asking too many questions
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Shouldn't there be an info button or something that shows the basic audio/video formats being played? Check your manual.
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post Mar 2 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 2 2016, 05:34 PM)

Sony SS-CS5, RM699

There's only a handfull of bookshelves available locally that performs as well at this price point.
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Sifu, i also noticed this, but do you know where can i get this?
i browsed Sony Malaysia website and its out of stock sad.gif
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post Mar 3 2016, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(rocktank @ Mar 2 2016, 11:14 PM)
Sifu, i also noticed this, but do you know where can i get this?
i browsed Sony Malaysia website and its out of stock  sad.gif
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Because they ARE out of stock. Has been selling like hot cakes since a few weeks ago.

New stocks should be coming in next week or so, basically by the end of the month.
I shouldn't have advertised them so much.
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post Mar 3 2016, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 3 2016, 12:02 AM)
Because they ARE out of stock. Has been selling like hot cakes since a few weeks ago.

New stocks should be coming in next week or so, basically by the end of the month.
I shouldn't have advertised them so much.
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No wonder la, under promotion sifu, sure become hot cakes lol
Anyway thanks sifu, I will keep on tracking this post for the update :-)
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post Mar 14 2016, 02:46 PM

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Got an A850 for a decent price as a secondary receiver for my secondary small bedroom setup, pairing it up with a SVS 5.1 Prime Satellites.

Did some half-assed YPAO without proper mic placement, only single point measurement instead of multi (didn't have time) and no bass traps put up yet. Pretty impressed with the result.

Hopefully have some time this week to tweak and optimize things more, but so far the A850 with the Prime Sats is pretty good combination.
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post Mar 14 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 14 2016, 02:46 PM)
Got an A850 for a decent price as a secondary receiver for my secondary small bedroom setup, pairing it up with a SVS 5.1 Prime Satellites.

Did some half-assed YPAO without proper mic placement, only single point measurement instead of multi (didn't have time) and no bass traps put up yet. Pretty impressed with the result.

Hopefully have some time this week to tweak and optimize things more, but so far the A850 with the Prime Sats is pretty good combination.
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congrats on new machine. a850 has atmos
can post some pics smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 14 2016, 03:58 PM)
congrats on new machine. a850 has atmos
can post some pics smile.gif
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Yeah just waiting for currency to get better or when KLIAV 2016 comes around, then get the bookshelves + another SB1000. Will be doing a 5.2.2 setup for the secondary bedroom.

Will post pics later once the whole room is set up properly, it's quite incomplete now that I also malu to show it off.
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post Mar 14 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 14 2016, 04:50 PM)
Yeah just waiting for currency to get better or when KLIAV 2016 comes around, then get the bookshelves + another SB1000. Will be doing a 5.2.2 setup for the secondary bedroom.

Will post pics later once the whole room is set up properly, it's quite incomplete now that I also malu to show it off.
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Congrats. You use Yamaha for main system as well ?
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 14 2016, 06:36 PM)
Congrats. You use Yamaha for main system as well ?
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Main system is an A2040 with KEF Q series setup (4xQ100 + Q200 + SVS PB1000), looking to change it for an Arcam 850. Too bad it costs more than a kidney and liver added together.

Then again, I'm also looking forward to this year's Yamaha flagship A3060 (presumably) which will definitely be cheaper than the Arcam 850, though not as good.
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post Mar 14 2016, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 14 2016, 06:54 PM)
Main system is an A2040 with KEF Q series setup (4xQ100 + Q200 + SVS PB1000), looking to change it for an Arcam 850. Too bad it costs more than a kidney and liver added together.

Then again, I'm also looking forward to this year's Yamaha flagship A3060 (presumably) which will definitely be cheaper than the Arcam 850, though not as good.
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Why you say that arcam is better ? What is the price for arcam?
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 14 2016, 07:14 PM)
Why you say that arcam is better ? What is the price for arcam?
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Many reasons, but the most obvious ones are:

1) Arcam doesn't cheap out on components, it's quality through and through.
2) They do very little of that bs overated power per channel nonsense like rating them at 10% THD or some so called "JEITA" spec.
3) Full fat, no-nonsense Dirac Live which blows the crap out of YPAO RSC with 3D angle management and Audyssey XT32. It's the next best thing to a manual tweak via miniDSP.

Price I was quoted is about 28k, thanks to ah jib.

That said, I still like Yamaha. I think they're the best balance in terms of price-performance-reliability. That's why I still wouldn't mind having my main system using a Yamaha flagship, even if I know I'd prefer the Arcam.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 14 2016, 07:39 PM)
Many reasons, but the most obvious ones are:

1) Arcam doesn't cheap out on components, it's quality through and through.
2) They do very little of that bs overated power per channel nonsense like rating them at 10% THD or some so called "JEITA" spec.
3) Full fat, no-nonsense Dirac Live which blows the crap out of YPAO RSC with 3D angle management and Audyssey XT32. It's the next best thing to a manual tweak via miniDSP.

Price I was quoted is about 28k, thanks to ah jib.

That said, I still like Yamaha. I think they're the best balance in terms of price-performance-reliability. That's why I still wouldn't mind having my main system using a Yamaha flagship, even if I know I'd prefer the Arcam.
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Yes Yamaha definitely is price per performance. I totally don't think is worth the money for the arcam. Seriously I think Arcam is good for audio but when come to HT, I don't feel the same
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post Mar 15 2016, 09:00 AM

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I thought anything that is good for audio should be good for HT. However, not the other way round.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 15 2016, 09:00 AM)
I thought anything that is good for audio should be good for HT. However, not the other way round.
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Not exactly. The way the hardware is design and build for different purposes can be good only in 1 thing but not the other
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Hmmm... to me, anything that is good for music is good for movies/games.

TBH though, different receivers sound different because they use different room EQs and measurements. This is the most significant difference between them.

If you put 2 receivers from say Yamaha and Marantz side by side, set them in pure direct, the difference in sound quality is rather subtle. It's there definitely, but not significant enough to draw out a wide conclusion on which is better. After all, better on paper does not mean better to the ears, that's audio.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 15 2016, 09:00 AM)
I thought anything that is good for audio should be good for HT. However, not the other way round.
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amp that tuned to slow trancient speed cannot fit ht action movie right.
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post Mar 15 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 15 2016, 04:49 PM)
Hmmm... to me, anything that is good for music is good for movies/games.

TBH though, different receivers sound different because they use different room EQs and measurements. This is the most significant difference between them.

If you put 2 receivers from say Yamaha and Marantz side by side, set them in pure direct, the difference in sound quality is rather subtle. It's there definitely, but not significant enough to draw out a wide conclusion on which is better. After all, better on paper does not mean better to the ears, that's audio.
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I found out that today avrs makes subtle differences when compared to some stereo int amps.

However, the significant could be found when compared to pre and power setup, especially the dynamics.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 15 2016, 05:14 PM)
amp that tuned to slow trancient speed cannot fit ht action movie right.
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I believe almost most amp tuned to cater high dynamic transient, the problem is the amp couldn't respond fast enough to those transient.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 14 2016, 06:54 PM)
Main system is an A2040 with KEF Q series setup (4xQ100 + Q200 + SVS PB1000), looking to change it for an Arcam 850. Too bad it costs more than a kidney and liver added together.

Then again, I'm also looking forward to this year's Yamaha flagship A3060 (presumably) which will definitely be cheaper than the Arcam 850, though not as good.
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Have you considered EMotiva XMC-1?

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