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 Shadowjass's FAT Loss Journal, Burn, burn, burn.....keep going!

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darklight79
post Dec 31 2006, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(E|dan @ Dec 31 2006, 01:54 AM)
shadow..1 tip..just keep pushing..dun think about the reps or sets..just keep doing..i train until i puke before..5-6 exercises in 45mins..the best workout ive done before..i agree that with PT is better...but cash limited..learn from ur PT and workout urself..and constantly update urself and must have a open mind in constant improvement and learning..
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Keep going? You trained till you puked? Do you know what kind of catabolic state you put the body through when you make it throw up, not to mention the electrolytes lost? Throwing up during workouts is not a sign of intensity but actually negatively impacting progress.

You need to plan out workouts, not go just by instinctive training imo.

In a sense, you are after progress and a very specific adaptation. Think of your target as a golf hole. At first you can just hack away and go in the gym doing anything because as long as the ball moves forward, you get something and are closer. The problem is that eventually higher and higher degrees of percision are required (call that specificity). You want a very specific adaptation, you best apply a specific stimulus, keep it as constant as possible and not confuse the body with mixed signals. So while hacking around may be all you need and you are happy with that, you will leave a lot on the table because it will only carry you so far (but it might be far enough depending on what you want).

Let's face it, going in, doing some stuff at random, and hoping to be rewarded for it in a specific way is kind of a pipe dream. Sort of like doing chores at random around the house and getting that new wing built. Probably need some measure of prioritization and planning if it's an important job.

My 0.02

This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 31 2006, 04:25 AM
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post Jan 3 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(shadowjass @ Jan 3 2007, 09:08 PM)
Wednesday, 3rd Jan 2006

Meals
10.30am
- 2 slices of wholemeal bread (with thin layer of wildberry jam) + 1 Chesdale High Calcium Cheese [64 cal 5.2 fat] (will go for low fat cheese next time. still have 3 slices left in da fridge)

1.20pm
- 1 egg white
- 2 veggies (Bean Sprouts + [?] no idea what vege is tat.. tongue.gif <--ta pau 1)

3.45pm
- one small Fuji apple

8.05pm
- salad (tuna + 1 egg white + 1/3 egg yolk + lettuce)

crappy meal planning...

Workout@5.40pm
- warm up 10 mins
- interval training@treadmill ( average speed-5.6 & average incline-2.3%)
- chest press (10 - 1 set -18 reps & 12.5 kg - 1 set -16 reps <--struggling to complete the set)
- upper back (17.5 & 20 kg - 3 sets 15 reps)
- lat machine- low (5 kg - 2 sets - 18 & 16 reps)
- lat machine - high (6.25 kg - 2 sets - 18 & 16 reps)
- leg curl (17.5 kg - 1 set 18 reps & 20kg - 2 sets 15 reps)
[when i did the 3rd set..i re-adjusted the lower cushion...a PT approached me n corrected me with the correct technique....told me that the 1st 2 sets i did good and got it right..that's y he was looking at me... blush.gif i din even notice that he was 'eye'ing on me playing with the machine...saw him chatting with his boss..can't believe tat i'm such a noob...from the correct to wrong posture... shakehead.gif )
- leg extension (17.5 & 20kg - 2 sets - 15 reps)
- interval training@treadmill (speed - 5.2 & 9.0 rclxm9.gif)

felt energetic when i was doing the 2nd interval training@treadmill..tried@9.0 speed... shocking.gif i can do it with 70-80% effort...brows.gif...3 weeks back i did it@8.0 speed... rclxm9.gif ...

Q: i felt my body was lighter when i jog@9.0...izzit because i got the correct posture/technique of jogging?  unsure.gif

Things
Mum bought an induction cooker for me... thumbup.gif ....faster cooking time + save up electricity...previously using hot plate...
gonna get myself a non-stick pan next round...
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4 meals? That's it? You're working out that much and you're eating like that. Your body's gonna go on rebound. This girl:-

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/slyng/

eats at least 6 meals a day and lifts like this:-

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=stiznel

And yes, she's a friend of mine. The thing is shadowjas, you're eating way too little. I'm not sure if you're going on a ketogenic diet or low carb or what. Your body needs fuel to burn fat, don't forget that. You can eat to lose weight.
Check out slyng's journal for some of her sample meals. It's in one of the threads she made in the bodyspace.
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post Jan 3 2007, 09:35 PM

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A sample of her diet when she first started at her journal :-

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php...509&postcount=9

Breakfast:
100mL eggwhite omelette with diced tomatoes and chives (cooked in a 1TBS of olive oil)
1/3 cup of 1% cottage cheese
1/2 cup of non-fat yogurt

Pre-workout:
Shake (36g whey)

Post-workout:
Mocha (1/2 hot chocolate & 1/2 coffee)

1 hour post-workout:
1/3 cup dry oats in 1/2 cup yogurt
Shake

2 hours after that:
Whole wheat pasta with extra lean ground chicken, green beans, sugar snap peas and wax beans, in a tomato & basil olive oil sauce

I'll finish the day with cottage cheese and an apple.

There are also 3 homemade, low-carb, organic peanut butter cookies sprinkled in there throughout the day.

Or another sample:
Breakfast:
Omelette (eggwhites + 1 whole egg, dill, spinach, 2tbs cottage cheese + 1tbs olive oil) + 3/4 cup oatmeal

Preworkout: Whey in water

Postworkout: 1 banana

1 hr post workout: oatmeal + whey in water

2 hrs later: grilled salmon & spinach in a whole wheat pita

Cottage cheese + berries before bed
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post Jan 3 2007, 09:38 PM

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The thing is, with a proper planned diet, you'll be amazed at how much you can lift and how fast you'll progress. I knwo most of the foods there are pretty Western, but you can replace them with Malaysian alternatives.
One more example of her diet:-

Breakfast (830-10am ish - I took breakfast to work since I woke up late, and had patients immediately so the meal was a bit..extended).
Shake (30 g protein, 5 g carbs)
Apple (15 g carbs)
Salmon oil pills (8 g fat)
20 g carbs, 30 g protein, 8 g fat

Normally, breakfast would be eggs (with spinach) cooked in olive oil and oats and berries, or protein pancakes made up of the same thing

Lunch (1pm)
Tuna pita (whole wheat) (with mayo)
20, 30, 10

Pre-WO (4pm)
Yogurt
Pre/during WO shake (5-7pm)
Dex and protein powder
40, 40, 4

Immediately PWO shake (7pm)
5 g creatine, 20 g dextrose, 5 g protein powder
20, 5, 0

1 hr PWO meal (8pm)
Shake and oats with berries and salmon oil pills
40, 50, 8


2 hr PWO meal (10pm)
to be decided probably a veggie and chicken creation with brown rice pasta - same grams as previous meal.
Edit: ended up with 2 chicken burgers in whole wheat pitas with some cheese, which was
50/60/18.

That's it. Hope that helped. Best of luck.

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post Jan 3 2007, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Jan 3 2007, 10:12 PM)
wow sexy .. she's really sexy !!
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Haha yeah. Canadian Chinese. She was previously doing Madcow's 5x5, now she's into O-lifting.
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post Jan 4 2007, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jan 4 2007, 01:52 PM)
You eat so little ><'''
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^^^^^

You heard the mod. Bump it up with more protein shadowjas. Notice that everyone of slyng's meal has got protein in it, either in the form of tuna, whey, milk, chicken, beef, etc.

You need protein to burn fat but you also need to snack enough to provide fuel for your body to burn fat so that it does not utilize protein as a fuel instead.

That meal at 2.45pm.... one small Fuji apple? sad.gif Add in a protein shake, some form of protein and one the meals you're having low carbs, add in some healthy fat like fish oil pills or something. That kind of fat won't make you gain weight at all, it helps in fat burning.

 

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