Hey y'all,

Just wanted to pick your brains on a comparison between these two cars. Like the speed, performance, nvh, interior, maintenance, so on so forth.
Don't know much about cars though.
Car I'm currently driving is an 8 year old satria neo.
All advice and information is greatly appreciated.
Danke schoen!

it really depends on the usage.. both of the car have almost similar spec...

Park for reference. I love the CX3 interior design. Looks very elegant

Cx3 . . even i previously compared HRV vs CX3.

good info

CX3 is small.

Mazda 3 is one segment larger. CX3 is basically a taller Mazda2.

What do you mean by usage?
I wont be driving it to work as my office is walking distance from home.
It will be most likely driven at night or on weekends.
In terms of power and speed? Which do you think performs better?

So you reckon the Mazda 3 would be a better buy?

Agreed that the interior is lovely for the CX3.
However, also looking at these two cars from different aspects.

Interesting. So you recommend going for the CX3 over the 3 HS?

Apologies for the 1 reply in 1 post.
Still trying to figure out how to reply to all in a single post. Hah.

That's my personal opinion, yes.

Or at least, wait for CX-3 to be CKD-ed or import from Thai and see if the price drops.

CX-3 is a nice car in it's own right, but it is not RM135k nice. It really is a small car albeit with a 2.0l engine. At RM125k, the fully kitted Mazda3 HS is a more bang-for-buck proposition.

Both also great car. CKD Mazda 3 HS has larger interior space, i-active sense and cheaper by rm10k while cx-3 has the latest exterior of kodo look of its class and fully import from jpn. To me If ur budget is not an issue and dont often carry alot of passengers, can try option for CX-3.

Thanks for your opinion buddy.
Performance-wise though, is the CX-3 better?



Noted with thanks man. Well my budget ranges 100-150k.
Any other cars you'd recommend apart from the two mentioned?

Coming from satria neo? Then VW passat is the best choice. Neo hAve a very solid chasis, body and planted ride. Most same as a conti car

So Passat is the best choice. Conti car are well know for its driving experience, solid, and quiet( good NVH)

cx3 is definitely a very sexaayy car to look at and fun car to drive, but considering the price, cannot deny that it is overpriced for crossover segment

mazda3 HS on the other hand is the most worthy car to buy around RM125k, plus its a C segment car with larger interior space and boot space, more probably a more refined and better handling driving experience due to lower center of gravity.

bro mazda handling and ride also not that bad one, i am coming from persona elegance, but ofcoz the ride and handling cannot be compared to satria neo, but also not that bad for a persona, currently driving mazda3, the ride n handling satisfies me as good as persona did, just tat persona is more nimble most probably due to lighter body. but mazda gives better satisfactions in term of power and refinement.

nvr try conti car like passat car b4, would love to try one too! just tat reliability may not be as good as jap car maybe? just guessing as i nvr owned a conti car

Yup. You should try one.
Mazda 3 is a good car. But I'm abit skeptical about their NVH . Road noise, wind noise.

So, I will choose passat as conti car are well know for it gooding insulation. Based on comment I read from passat user here, 160kmh in passat is damn quiet. That impress me

yes bro, the NVH! road noise and wind noise are terrible, haha.. just changed to yokohama comfort tyres, b4 this was really terrible! But even now is still noisy but much better, within acceptable level...

wind noise also not tat good, u can hear very visible wind noise at speed 110kmph.. these are kinda disappointing to me

what impresses me is the power, handling, fc and styling hehe...

conti car next target

Since ur budget is up to 150k, if other than mazda 3 and cx-3, civic 10 generation 1.5 turbo is worth well to wait. The whole new design of interior cabin, exterior, chassis and engine is very attractive. Price gap is very much vary from cx-3 roughly about 20k more expensive according to rumors.

Points well noted from the both of you.
Not really a big fan of VW though. Brother owns a Polo TSI and it's been giving him a shitload of problems.
Then again, maybe it's because he went superman with it and flew. Hahahaha.

Swaying more to the 3 HS now. Only problem is that they don't have soul red for it. One SA mentioned 6k just to repaint it. :/
Speaking of NVH, the 3HS cant be worse than a Proton right? LOL.

bro the road noise level for stock tyres is more terrible than my persona nvh with stock tyres.. but i just changed to yokohama tyres from toyo tyres.. road noise much lesser dy, i would say quite good now, so the road noise mainly caused by the stock toyo tyres, just in case u cant tahan then just change the tyres.. other than this, all others m3 NVH are better than proton no worries..

u will love the exterior and interior design, smooth and snappy gearbox, powerful and fuel saving engine no regrets! just go for it!

Thanks for sharing bro. Really appreciate it.
I can see that you're loving your M3.
Gonna go for a test drive this weekend so I'll see how it goes from there!

CX-3 has a very eager engine and responsive gearbox, not sure if Mazda3 is the same since I've never really whack a Mazda3 before.

I was gonna say CX-5 as well with discount now (less than 140k), but since you like the CX3's design, I am not sure if the CX-5 will live up to your expectations design-wise.

The tire noise is quite terrible in the CX3 as well. The engine is quite in the cabin, but the tire noise is incredible. Stock tires are Toyo Proxes R40 IINM.

Also during cold start the engine sound is very rough when heard from outside, is it the same with the Mazda3?

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 18 2016, 11:44 PM

The cold start noise is probably due to a valve is activated to close the exhaust so that the engine is quickly warm up to operating temp. That is very similar to all conti cars as well.

Once the engine warm up, the valve will open and engine quiet.

Unlike older generation Jap cars, during cold start all the fume is directly discharged to ambient, so it's more smelly and less environmental friendly.

driving a mazda 3 here. in terms of gadgets mazda 3 has abit more (eg. RVM) and space definitely bigger since CX-3 is using Mazda 2 chassis.

Price wise definitely not worth it for a small car, should wait for CKD and see.

NVH Mazda will hear the wind, road noise. engine is quiet.

Proton NVH is worse, add the engine noise - and the engine is noisier than road/wind.

at least Mazda u can improve by change tyre. Proton... change engine? lol

some ppl prefer the engine noise though. i know i do

I see, thanks for the info.

It was a bit disconcerting at first, the engine goes "GRR GRR GRR GRRRR GRRR" when we first started it. The salesman did explain to us when we took delivery of the car but I didn't think too much of it at first, until the next morning I discovered it really does sound rough.

I like how you classified a proton as a conti car

since you come from a 2 door car and looking for performance, take a look at the KIA CERATO KOUP around RM130k you get 0 to 100km/hr in 7.3 seconds

In term of ride and handling , yes. I hope u already drive Neo and conti car. solid chasis, planted ride, no goyang2 or floating feel

This post has been edited by sgshuhu: Feb 19 2016, 10:39 AM

Hahaha. Colleague of mine has one of those. Not really a big fan of the looks though. If it had the Kodo design, it'd buy it in a heartbeat. Lulz.

If you say so

Have I driven a proton? No and I wouldn't want to

Have I driven a conti? Yea, driving now and I just smoked a neo last night

This post has been edited by sgshuhu: Feb 19 2016, 11:20 AM

Hahaha. Now now.
No need to look down on Protons. People make do with what they have.

Any other arguments for and against the Mazda3 HS?

better test drive both cars yourself before deciding

no offence to you bro but he's being plain ridiculous for saying proton is the same as conti. Anyway, back to the topic, between the two cars you mentioned, I would go for the cx-3 as it is CBU, better built, packed with features and gadgets while providing high ride for better view.

Yeah bro. Most definitely.

No offense taken bro.
But a lot of people are saying that the CX-3 is just a, and I quote, "Mazda 2 on stilts", "glorified Mazda2", etc etc.
The CBU is tempting and yes that would probably mean better built (as its not Malaysian made, lol) but apparently the 3HS has more gadgets as compared to the CX3.

if not in a rush the upcoming ford focus seems promising. although not sure when will it arrive and how much price increase it will get. but it will be the best ride and performance in it's class for sure.

CX-3
154 bhp
204 Nm
1211kg

Mazda-3
162bhp
210 Nm
1292kg


THe performance on paper should be around the same.. I dont think power and speed will diff by much.. Cx-3 is based on mazda 2 platform and the small size with 2.0L engine.

last year we traded my wife's golf for a mazda 3. so far so good. it has almost every specs a new car should have especially the activsense features. quality is comparable to vw golf. I sat in one cx-3 in showroom recently during service. its basically a lifted mazda 3. not so high though.. but it surely looks fancy & flashy.

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This post has been edited by sgshuhu: Feb 19 2016, 05:26 PM

Yes bro dares, super duper loud and loud bass noise haha.. Macam diesel engine during cold start lol.. Ppl will look at my car during cold start.. Really loud inside cabin and outside..

Don't be so caught up with the CBU label, CKD Mazdas have good assembly quality as well.

Conversely, some Mazda3 CBU owners also complain about suspension noises and such, CKD owners are complaining about the same thing as well. So I guess just abang adik lah.

Agreed, don't automatically assume CBU quality is higher than CKD. In fact go read Mazda 3 Club ver. 6 and there are plenty of CBU owners complaining about rattling dashboards but this complaint is rare for CKD owners. Both CBU and CKD owners complain about kruk-kruk suspension sound when going over bump in wet weather and this appears to be a design issue.

For my own CKD M3 I've no complaints about the interior fit and finish. Eerything seems well fitted together with no odd gaps or misalignment. No annoying dashboard sounds or squeeky seats either.

Buy the CX-3 over the Mazda 3 if you think the car and features are worth it but not because it is CBU over CKD.

BTW bro do you have armrest for CX3? should be same as Mazda2

wow bro u sudah beli cx3 ka? hehehehe

i dont have armrest for cx3 wo.. saw another seller bringing those armrest for mazda 2 in fb...if u wan i pm u the link bro

Yep my family bought. Pls feel free to pm

gua sudah pm

Bro just to add some points, i once got 720km with RM80 petrol on M3 HS. Fc is really good if you dont have heavy foot.

Bro what size is that yokohama tyre? Is it the same as stock size? And how much. Does it give huge difference on the tyre noise?

i changed to 225 40 18.. thinner and wider.. definitely better grip but feels heavier to move... yes bro! definitely big diff! my passenger told me the same too! much better NVH now

So I went for a test drive today. Mazda3 HS sedan.
Felt quite sluggish.. Like the pick up not that ong. So many gadgets in the car (not complaining).

Prolly go test drive again next week cause my dad wants to try it out. Haha.

Should I bother test driving the CX-3?

I was same as you before buying Mazda 3 High spec, only for one reason rear leg room is just too small for cx3. If you are single dude, I would say go for CX3. If u need to fetch ppl, then Mazda 3 is better. Handling wise m3 is slightly better due to lower center of gravity. Well CX3 is not design for sports. Give and take, both are good cars. FYI initially I booked CX3 first, then after deep consideration, I change my order to mazda3.

Thanks for your opinion buddy.
Are you happy with your 3HS though?
Was asking the SA and he was saying that CX3 was better in terms of performance etc etc (maybe he's just trying to sway me towards the CX3.

Heartache to buy CX3 if the price were to compare with HRV lol

I'd say do test drive both cars, and if possible, test them on the same day so that you are able to get a feel for the car's driving dynamics as well as the feeling of roominess, driving position etc in the car. Am saying this because i feel that where the CX-3 would differ from the 3HS is in the driving feel (sedan vs crossover) as well as space (C-seg vs Cross-B-seg).

Cx3 is a good car. But unfortunatelt its way too small. Interior space is only slightly bigger than a VW Polo.

Had a go in one of those b4. The handling cant even match a Proton Waja let alone a Mazda. And the steering feel is totally out on the Cerato Koup. No matter what setting i put it in, it all has the same rubbishy feel.

well, I have only seen the spec on papers only but also I heard of kimchi having poor ride handling. I guess its all show but no go

CX3
Gear Shifting in CX3 is better
Constant Torque at 2,800 rpm onwards which is why you will feel pick up is much faster in CX3 and also is lighter than mazda 3.


Mazda 3
Handling is better
Fuel Economy for mazda 3 as a 2.0L is really awesome on average 600km full tank 60% city 40% highway. Well i am very light foot.




If you are single not married, then go for CX3 la. I really like CX3 too

Yeah. Maybe I'll give the CX3 a test drive this weekend and let you know what I think about the car.

Noted with thanks regarding your input buddy.
Prolly give the cx3 a try this weekend and whack it properly cause when I drove the 3HS, I drove it damn carefully hahaha.

Hi,

if u wish to know more about these 2 cars, kindly pm me, ready to assist.

weekend car oh... then i prefer you grab CX3... more unique... just my opinion.
If daily day, i prefer M3 .. at least you got boot to keep and store goodies.

This post has been edited by bccheong77: Mar 8 2016, 11:36 AM

Just pick up few hours back.... For my sister

congrate


bought cash?

Finance 55k

Still considering bro.
Test drove the m3 HS twice already.
Might go test drive the CX3.
Power and speed wise, the 3 is better?

The CX3's airvents blow right at the driver's hands when holding the wheel at the 3-9 position. I hate that.

Any indication of when the CX-3 CKD version will arrive?

Lol. That's interesting to hear. Then gotta drive 6-12 position. 😂😂
Power and speed wise though?

Not too sure buddy. I'm pretty sure it's definitely not going to be this year.

Ah, sad. Really liked the design, but paying such price for CBU not worth it.

Didn't take it out for a drive. Noticed it while cocking about in the showroom.

CX3 haven't test drive yet. can't comment on it.

M3 HS .... cool! haha.