This is the thing, not everyone can afford the best things in life. Not only when it comes to amps, but other things as well. Obviously the real amp is better than an amp which is trying to model after it. The questions are whether you'll be needing it, whether you can afford it, and whether its worth that much money when there are other things you need to settle in life.

If you're putting it that way, then Marshall, Vox etc shouldnt produce cheap amps. They should just produce expensive ones, since lower end amps are shit anyways.

Edit : Meh, merry xmas.

This post has been edited by winkybear: Dec 28 2006, 12:13 AM

ahahaha

hey handsem..you're getting me confused here..

are you humble or arrogant ?

i know i am arrogant..if a beginner gets a Gio..i am fine with it..
but when i pro gets a Gio..i will point to him that his guitar is sh*t without feeling shy..cmon ..at least a Midrange..

yea.."same meaning different sentences" ..i wonder why this blackangel kept thinking i advise beginners to get high end gears..which my point was clearly .."be determine and go for your dream gear" ..oh yea..he is Chinese ed. right?

this is true...but...YOU CAN CHANGE IT !!!

LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST...you see..

i don't comfort my friends around me by saying.."don't worry , life is hard "
nah...i try to make them strieve for the best

blacktrix : there is no war ..hehe dun worry ..i havent feel it yet..

So what if Vai or Satriani on GIO??? Aint that the same as Hetfield or Hammett on LTD's??

Its what he can produce Boy...not whats he wearing....

I'm Humble, Holy, and also Merry...

"A shit is still shit no matter if the user is beginner or advandce or god or whatever!"

This post has been edited by antonio: Dec 28 2006, 12:21 AM

Mr noobster, our fellow thread starter asked for a little BEDROOM practise amp recomendation. Why in the blue hell did u recomend a 100watt amp head? isnt it ridiculous?

maybe u should start a new thread "Me n my big big JCM"

You have the mentality that once a person turns pro, he must get good gear. What if he cant afford it? Getting money is easier said than done, like what the rest have already said. I know a lot of my plans didnt materialise, and its mainly because of the human factor. We're not robots. We need to eat/play/relax. Plus, when you actually do have the money in hand, do you really want to spend it on gear or towards a better home/life etc.

Why dont you write a letter to Marshall/Vox/Ibanez etc to separate their gear manufacturing by ranks of newbie/amatuer/pro, instead of the price?

Its easier said than done, my friend.

Ok...how about those Fender 15's....Is that also considered in this subject...


He got already the J'800s...thats why he can brag...Its like me having all the tube amps in the world and goes to Vai telling him..."Hi Steve, dont you think your Carvin Legacy isn't tight enoght compared with my VHT Pitbull....C'mmon man..you're a pro...use amps Pro uses...dont go endorsing amps that is not that Pro....Lucky for me Steve, I aint a Pro...but i do got a lot of cash to spend...

antonio : i don't think hetfield and hammet ever use an LTD before..

even if they did..the music they play is very subjective..you love metallica, but i don't

Winkybear : it is true , Tone plays an important role in good guitar playing..
without good gears..how is he going to get the tone ?

right..i know i said "tone is in the fingers" before..but hey..there is a limit
if i give steve vai a ibanez GIo with a really HIGH ACTION..i really don't think he can perform as well as a Nicely setup JEM

if you interpret what i said this way..then

Huh!!!isk isk isk...wasting my time only...go youtube...you can find tons of em playing LTD guitars....

but then again it is very subjective and you sure as hell dont give a dime about them so why bother...just take my word for it...i wont lie to a Lord like you wont I...

Its also true that Tone doesnt come from good gears only as a fact as much as the way you put it in your statement...Right?

And why the hell should you give him a high action GIO...why not give him a high Action JEM instead...or better yet give him a High Action Les Paul...See if he can action or not...

There is this little dot tube stereo amp from china. It wasn't designed for guitars i know, but works generally the same. Just that you have less EQ options (i think, haven't seen the little dot in detail). There is a forum in the "Audiophiles" section about this amp.

My suggestion is, if you are a tube freak; get 2 little dots and use one to drive the other. Then buy a 12" Greenback (or speaker of your choice) and build your own mini cab. It's not that hard to build a decent cab of that size. Needs a bit of patience, but go google abit and it can be done. I managed to build a closed back 1x12" which sounded ok. It looked terrible but it sounded better than i expected . Definitely saves money. I think you'd get better sound that way compared to an MG15. And it probably costs more (the Greenback alone would probably almost be as expensive as the MG15). But it's definitely cheaper than a JCM or even an AD50.

Picture please....

by the way...I'm also thinkking of DiY a 4x12 cab from scratch....just for the fun of it i buy an MG Series take the Marshall emblem and stick it to my custom made Cab...hahahaha...

i took my greenback out and ebayed the case liao. Got a whopping 5 euros for it!!!

But trust me, you've never seen sloppier workmanship in your life. YOu don't want to see it . So if i can do it, pretty much anybody can.

yeah..why?
i still don't think he can play a high action JEM better than a low action JEM

woi..sleep lah...you no work ? i play with you tomorrow ok ? muaks

Then what is the point you saying about JEM and GIO....If both were setup badly...and both also he cant play....so whats the point then...where's the cheap and expensive or good and bad has to do with it when both guitars have high action....

if both were setup nicely than he can play well right...

Owh i forgot...you were mentioning about tone...JEM tone is diff than GIO...sorry Lord my bad...gotta gmo

Just ignore this noobsterlar. They say that guitarists usually have a big ego, and if they need a perfect example, they shouldn't look any further. It's hard to believe that he owns a JCM when he sounds like a 14-year-old who just got through puberty and is seeking for attention.

On the subject of whether to spend a fortune for your dream gear, I believe it's not necessary to get the highest end gear to 'LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST'. As long as you're happy with your gear, nothing else matters. For example, a guitarist might spend a fortune on guitars but plays through a SS amp. Others might think that it's a waste to pair up an expensive guitar with a SS amp, but if he's happy with it, who cares? In the end, we purchase stuff to satisfy ourselves, no?
I have my AD50 and since it has served me well for a year that even though I have the cash to get a Marshall 18-watt, I might not. I rather spend it on something else... so don't mix up your own desires with others, guitarnoobster. You may have the cash to get the JCM, good for you. For the rest of us, we don't, but nonetheless we love the gears we have gotten. That doesn't make us any inferior to you. If you can't respect that, I suggest that you STFU and do everyone else a favour by leaving LYN. And if this forum is a playground to you, I suggest you move to Jamtank, there're ppl there who are interested to play with you.

W00t? Little Dot as Guitar amp?!!! Are you sure? Wouldn't it be more practical and better tonally to build your own mini amp then? Not to mention cheaper?

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Dec 28 2006, 01:02 AM

smells burning...do u need to identify ppl is chinese ed or eng ed? arrogant...told u be humble to explain ur opinions in last few thread.

btwi i think every company will give their sign player every model of the sig series...zakk wylde uses blacktrix's epiphone version too! check out youtube~i believe if u take my low end squier n let malmsteen play, he can play like its a fender custom or what. but jz that malmsteen will prefer that the guitar is set up properly. i dun think there is a saying that good gear only can produce good sound. im not so sure about this la..from what i see zakk play his epip, sounds good. for guitar player like him , epip is consider mid rng i think for skillful him. but its a very good one for us

This post has been edited by blackangel: Dec 28 2006, 01:12 AM

fully agree with what you said...as long as we're happy with our gears, and the tone that we're getting from our gears...why not? i'm more than happy with my 15 watt line6 amp...it's puny, it's not some badass sounding amp, but heck...i like it...

not everyone have the spending power to get a rm8K++ amp...my wallet had a very big and deep hole after i spent rm1.3k on my multifx alone...

i think we better get back to the topic before this thread got whacked...

I suck more than anyone in this world at electronics. So building my own amp is definitely out of the question for me. And with all that high voltage transformers in tube amps, i would rather keep my fingers away. I already get scared everytime i turn on my amp in case something explodes or whatever. It has happened to me before (didn't really explode though). I burned 2 EL34 tubes that way. They went really red hot almost yellow like a light bulb and then luckily the fuse blew. Some short circuit in the wiring. The rubber housing of the wires were already old and crispy and at one point it crumbled away so 2 wires were touching each other. I swear my heart stopped beating for 2 seconds watching the tubes glow.

I don't really think the little dots would be that bad as guitar amps. If i remember correctly there is one model with 12AX7s and the power tubes i forgot. But the 12AX7s mean that it has a preamp stage. So i think that using a little dot to drive a 2nd unit is possible no matter how low the PU outputs are (which can't really be that low right?). I don't really see what can go wrong. Unless someone has tried it and blew up his house or something. Then please by all means forget what i just suggested. But theoretically there shouldn't be anything wrong with it.

And if it doesnt work, i have 2 little dots for general usage. Not that bad i would say. Never tried them out, but if they have so many fans, they can't be all that bad right?

guitarnoobster2, please use the edit button instead of continuous multiple replies