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post May 17 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ May 17 2016, 09:43 PM)
I have owned a HTiB, satellites and floorstanding/bookshelf.

HTiB is only slightly better than TV speakers. Satellites plus a sub is few notch better than HTiB.

IMHO, if you are really going for a HTiB, might as well just use the TV speakers.
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post May 17 2016, 11:09 PM

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post May 17 2016, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ May 17 2016, 07:44 PM)
It's your seating space. Too little space even to move about. You speakers not enough separation space sideways.
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My house width too bad...now I'm planning to get small L shape sofa and move it abit closer to tv..
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post May 17 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2016, 08:01 PM)
With your space, you have 2 choices:

1) Get a satellite based system.
2) Get a pair of bookshelfs.
If I were you, I'd get a pair of good quality small bookshelfs or satellites and an intergrated amp, then call it a day. Then when you have the space, you can move those small bookshelfs for surround duties and get a bigger, higher-end LCR.

Maybe a pair of Q Acoustics 2020 or SVS Prime Satellites would best fit your area.
If you absolutely want to cram in a bookshelf with 5.25" drivers or bigger, then your choices are very limited.

You simply don't have the space to accommodate anything larger. Remember, doesn't mean you have the space to place the speakers, it will work well. You need some space from the boundaries of your wall (back and side), otherwise things will sound boomy, muddy and your soundstage will be limited. If the speakers are vented, you can plug them, but you will need a sub to overcome the loss of low-end. That's another area where you have to find space.

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That floor space infront of your TV is also a big reflection point that you will want to attend to, at least put a rug there.
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QUOTE(Ngto @ May 17 2016, 08:11 PM)
The sound will be totally unbalanced. Absolutely no space on the left and free open area on the right, extending towards the back. I suggest better get a HTiB and be done with it  smile.gif . Save you a whole lot of money.
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QUOTE(OPT @ May 17 2016, 09:43 PM)
I have owned a HTiB, satellites and floorstanding/bookshelf.

HTiB is only slightly better than TV speakers. Satellites plus a sub is few notch better than HTiB.

IMHO, if you are really going for a HTiB, might as well just use the TV speakers.
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The svs prime looks nice too...that's the reason I search for htib Sony 9200w it look slim but for my space kinda looks terrible too but after so many poisoning I decide to go with avr...how much is svs prime really suits me I think so...is the sound ok


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post May 17 2016, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ May 17 2016, 09:43 PM)
I have owned a HTiB, satellites and floorstanding/bookshelf.

HTiB is only slightly better than TV speakers. Satellites plus a sub is few notch better than HTiB.

IMHO, if you are really going for a HTiB, might as well just use the TV speakers.
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post May 17 2016, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 17 2016, 11:17 PM)
The svs prime looks nice too...that's the reason I search for htib Sony 9200w it look slim but for my space kinda looks terrible too but after so many poisoning I decide to go with avr...how much is svs prime really suits me I think so...is the sound ok
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SVS Prime Satellites are probably the best satellites I've ever heard. You must mate it with a sub though, on its own it cannot produce much bass.

Other than speakers, you have other issues to attend to first lol... just looking at that pic, the amount of bare walls is a recipe for an insane amount of echo. DIY some acoustic panels with a texture of your choice to go along with your decor, hang it on the left side of the wall. Get a rug, put it on the floor. Those are some starting points.

Of course, it's your house so... don't take my suggestion as something you must do. But my point is, the room is equally as important as speaker choice. You can buy $50,000 speakers but if the room's condition is poor, it's still going to sound like crap.
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 17 2016, 09:57 PM)
It's very cramped obviously. Forget about floor speakers. A pair of bookshelf speakers provided with a center speaker will do. I have no idea where to put those surround speakers. No space for subwoofer too! I am eager to know the right hand side of your hall. In my opinion that would be a better location. The left side of your current tv location doesn't have any free wide space for the sound. Suddenly I'm thinking of wireless speakers for you!  rclxub.gif

Anyway, you have a beautiful tempered glass tv cabinet tho.....  :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 17 2016, 09:59 PM)
Anything but HTiB!  thumbup.gif
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Yup I think bookshelf type suits me well cant go with with bigger type htib or floor speaker...I bought the cabinet just because its look simple once reach home I realised that the front glass is mirror type...
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2016, 11:26 PM)
SVS Prime Satellites are probably the best satellites I've ever heard. You must mate it with a sub though, on its own it cannot produce much bass.

Other than speakers, you have other issues to attend to first lol... just looking at that pic, the amount of bare walls is a recipe for an insane amount of echo. DIY some acoustic panels with a texture of your choice to go along with your decor, hang it on the left side of the wall. Get a rug, put it on the floor. Those are some starting points.

Of course, it's your house so... don't take my suggestion as something you must do. But my point is, the room is equally as important as speaker choice. You can buy $50,000 speakers but if the room's condition is poor, it's still going to sound like crap.
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Will go with your suggestion I have no idea on audio related product just start learning...the svs prime satellite a pair 2.5k is it true I just search via google for Malaysia price..i think its really out of my budget..for Q Acoustics 2020i price 1.3k for a pair quite reasonable but still no idea on actual price..for my budget its really hard to invest everything maybe a step by step just help me abit on this...i didn't plan for future upgrades like atmos all with my limited room space..if I go with two bookshelf with a amp now the sound outcome will be ok..i will do the acoustic panels once I bought the speakers...plus where to get the speaker...thank you so much for your kind help

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 17 2016, 11:30 PM)
Will go with your suggestion I have no idea on audio related product just start learning...the svs prime comes with the 12 inch subwoofer just now I search saw with four book shelf with 12 inch sub looks very nice and small....is it very expensive how much here and where to get it..if expensive I will bought the bookshelf first and sub later but its really look nice the colour suits my cabinet..after bought the speakers then will go with acoustic panels...oh gosh is it just for bookshelf rm2500 just for a pair...i think its really over my budget any other similar type..im now fix with bookshelf speakers just give some idea how many pair I need I think with my limited space I didn't plan for future upgrade maybe like four bookshelf with a sub good for me..thank you so far for your kind help
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Considering you have limited space, this sample might suit you best. An av receiver, a pair of bookshelf speakers, a center speaker and a subwoofer.
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 18 2016, 12:53 AM)
Considering you have limited space, this sample might suit you best. An av receiver, a pair of bookshelf speakers, a center speaker and a subwoofer.
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Looks nice bro yup I just edit my post up there😋..will stick to bookshelf and avr....now have to find which model suits my budget...haha oh my god if I didn't have that limited budget...now have to filter one by one to fit the budget...

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 18 2016, 01:03 AM)
Looks nice bro yup I just edit my post up there😋..will stick to bookshelf and avr....now have to find which model suits my budget...haha oh my god if I didn't have that limited budget...now have to filter one by one to fit the budget...
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You know bro, you will enjoy the movie more with these amazing sound. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 18 2016, 01:20 AM)
You know bro, you will enjoy the movie more with these amazing sound.  :thumbsup:
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Haha u r correct 😋 now I have to fix which model to buy before bought it next month if not the salesman will confused me out..once fix no more asking salesman opinion 😋...luckily didn't bought the floor speaker from yesterday to many poison in my head if not I have to place the floor speaker on my cabinet....bookshelf looks nice actually....waiting for ssjben recommendations he looks really a pro
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How about Sony SSCS5 pair with Sony SSCS8 with a good sub....if I have more budget will add another SSCS5..i don't know about the amp integrated or what..so for cs5 rm700 cs8 rm500 and good sub I didn't have idea on this...and a amp..it will be in my budget...is it a good choice how about the quality...or just drop the plan and go with two q acoustic 2020i with a amp for now later add on center and a sub...or any better idea
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Should go for q acoustic 3020
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post May 18 2016, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2016, 11:26 PM)
SVS Prime Satellites are probably the best satellites I've ever heard. You must mate it with a sub though, on its own it cannot produce much bass.

Other than speakers, you have other issues to attend to first lol... just looking at that pic, the amount of bare walls is a recipe for an insane amount of echo. DIY some acoustic panels with a texture of your choice to go along with your decor, hang it on the left side of the wall. Get a rug, put it on the floor. Those are some starting points.

Of course, it's your house so... don't take my suggestion as something you must do. But my point is, the room is equally as important as speaker choice. You can buy $50,000 speakers but if the room's condition is poor, it's still going to sound like crap.
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After some readings about avr and intergrated amp now I get your point..u mean a pair of good bookshelf speaker with intergrated amp and a subwoofer...i get ur point so save space and can get a quality sound its like 2.1 setup...its really a great idea...now I need to know the price roughly for a pair of svs prime or acoustic and for intergrated amp too...sorry for the late pickup and I like the suggestion very much thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 18 2016, 06:54 AM)
Should go for q acoustic 3020
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My budget below 2k for speaker..the 3020 price below 2k or higher....and another 1.5k for amp mayb subwoofer I will add later...
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Any chance of moving your tv cabinet and tv to the left wall? With your new 4k tv you should be sitting closer to the tv anyway. Maybe floorstands will become possible then?
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 18 2016, 07:42 AM)
My budget below 2k for speaker..the 3020 price below 2k or higher....and another 1.5k for amp mayb subwoofer I will add later...
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 18 2016, 07:42 AM)
My budget below 2k for speaker..the 3020 price below 2k or higher....and another 1.5k for amp mayb subwoofer I will add later...
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You can also check out used speakers and AVRs which can sometimes give you great value for your money.

One more thing, speakers are a very personal thing. While the recommendations by the sifus here help to narrow down your choices, you should still listen to those speakers yourself and find out whether you like them.

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ May 18 2016, 08:57 AM)
Any chance of moving your tv cabinet and tv to the left wall? With your new 4k tv you should be sitting closer to the tv anyway. Maybe floorstands will become possible then?
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ May 18 2016, 10:07 AM)
You can also check out used speakers and AVRs which can sometimes give you great value for your money.

One more thing, speakers are a very personal thing. While the recommendations by the sifus here help to narrow down your choices, you should still listen to those speakers yourself and find out whether you like them.
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I don't think so once I move the tv cabinet sure will have more problem with sofa...if I have a good width sure can buy floor stands like that😢....scared to buy used item bro because didn't have experience...plus very hard to find the shop in my area and listen to it...that's why I'm going with sifu suggestion I think their recommendation looks great...im going to bought it at kl...next month I have some work thr so will go around and bought thr easy for me....i like the suggestion a pair of bookshelf speaker with integrated amp and subwoofer..I think with my budget I can get a good pair of bookshelf below 2k then another 1.5k for amp..subwoofer will add later just my idea.

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