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voscar
post Oct 6 2021, 04:47 PM

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Anyone know where's the SauceSource Direct button on Mi phone ya?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 6 2021, 04:47 PM)
Anyone know where's the SauceSource Direct button on Mi phone ya?
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Mi phone no source direct button. What you can do turn off all Sound effects. Display setting use Light Mode. Refresh rate 60hz . turn off AI image engine. color scheme > Advanced setting > Original (Color Gamut)
you aslo can adjust R,G,B for fine-tune .

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post Oct 6 2021, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 6 2021, 07:56 PM)
Mi phone no source direct button.  What you can do turn off all Sound effects.  Display setting use Light Mode.  Refresh rate 60hz . turn off AI image engine.  color scheme > Advanced setting > Original (Color Gamut)
you aslo can adjust R,G,B for fine-tune  .
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Mine was different, no AI image engine.
Color scheme I always set Automatic > Warm, I remember read about gsmarena test this mode gets something average DeltaE 2.4, default one is bluish
Don't have original selection also


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post Oct 6 2021, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 6 2021, 08:16 PM)
Mine was different, no AI image engine.
Color scheme I always set Automatic > Warm, I remember read about gsmarena test this mode gets something average DeltaE 2.4, default one is bluish
Don't have original selection also
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You can try custom instead of warm. try to find a sweet point to adjust . for example , I try to move a bit to blue zone , because I prefer my sound more bright a bit. IF you feel warm better than custom, you can go back to warm anytime.

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Oct 6 2021, 01:14 PM)
i put it over my head then i lost my front stage  puke.gif
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haha meant need 1 more phone to cover front stage..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Nov 1 2021, 10:06 AM

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yo guys,

My friend finally got the yamaha rx-a2a from a&l audio (from ct seong, because his service is too good). Got himself a starke sound sw12 subwoofer for the av amp (from my other friend), and set it all up with his edifier unused satellite (s550).

It brought a big smile to him n his wife.

The yamaha design is neat, easy to clean and sounds nice. Although the ypao doesnt really gives him what he wants, but he just takes time to adjust the gain.

Now left the last speaker poison which i need to add in few months later biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

If anyone here has yamaha amp experience, please let me know which brand to pair with it.

Thanks so much for the heads up before this.
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post Nov 1 2021, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(cubicle @ Nov 1 2021, 10:06 AM)
yo guys,
My friend finally got the yamaha rx-a2a from a&l audio (from ct seong, because his service is too good). Got himself a starke sound sw12 subwoofer for the av amp (from my other friend), and set it all up with his edifier unused satellite (s550).
It brought a big smile to him n his wife.
The yamaha design is neat, easy to clean and sounds nice. Although the ypao doesnt really gives him what he wants, but he just takes time to adjust the gain.
Now left the last speaker poison which i need to add in few months later  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
If anyone here has yamaha amp experience, please let me know which brand to pair with it.
Thanks so much for the heads up before this.
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rx-a is aventage serie drool.gif good stuff s550 quite a serious pc surround set.
as usual ypao we need to increase subwoofer level gain+++

possible to choose floorstand in front channel?
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QUOTE(cubicle @ Nov 1 2021, 10:06 AM)
yo guys,

My friend finally got the yamaha rx-a2a from a&l audio (from ct seong, because his service is too good). Got himself a starke sound sw12 subwoofer for the av amp (from my other friend), and set it all up with his edifier unused satellite (s550).

It brought a big smile to him n his wife.

The yamaha design is neat, easy to clean and sounds nice. Although the ypao doesnt really gives him what he wants, but he just takes time to adjust the gain.

Now left the last speaker poison which i need to add in few months later  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

If anyone here has yamaha amp experience, please let me know which brand to pair with it.

Thanks so much for the heads up before this.
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YPAO is trash for sub PEQ, unfortunately. The most your friend can do to optimize sub PEQ with his A2A is to:

1) Place the sub in the best possible location, especially since he only has 1 sub. Sub location is the most important thing for good bass, so important that it's the number 1 thing to get right first before anything else IMO.

2) Make sure to get a good NEGATIVE gain from YPAO after the initial measurement. The reason is because EVERY receiver can clip the sub signal when the gain is in the positive (above 0db). If the sub is placed in a null position, just because he can't feel enough bass he increases the gain on the AVR - it CAN end up damaging the input on the sub's amp plate. So, never put the gain in +
To achieve a negative gain from the AVR, you have to increase the gain volume on the sub itself first, do the first measurement with YPAO, try and aim for around -5db. It's a little bit of back and forth trial and error, but it's well worth the time.

3) Do more than 1 measurement if he wasn't already doing it. Use the multi-point measurement method, place the mic on a boom arm tripod and measure in varying locations from the MLP (main listening position) while keeping each measurement no more than 1 feet apart.

Contrary to popular myths and believes, speaker and receiver matching doesn't actually mean anything. The reason is because as soon as you enable YPAO, ALL the speakers will be timbre and tonal matched as close as possible to the front L and R speakers. Buy the speakers that sounds good to you, don't buy the speakers because some ah beng told you it sounds super warm, chocolatey or sparkly when matched with <insert brand name> amp.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 1 2021, 04:52 PM)
rx-a is aventage serie drool.gif good stuff s550 quite a serious pc surround set.
as usual ypao we need to increase subwoofer level gain+++

possible to choose floorstand in front channel?
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RXA2A is not a real Aventage receiver. It's just a rebadged V-series receiver, with an extra fifth penis at the bottom. The internals are 99% the same as the V6A.

You should never increase sub gain on the receiver into the positive value due to signal clipping, please don't recommend that.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 1 2021, 04:52 PM)
rx-a is aventage serie drool.gif good stuff s550 quite a serious pc surround set.
as usual ypao we need to increase subwoofer level gain+++

possible to choose floorstand in front channel?
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Just turn up the volume on the sub 😁
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post Nov 2 2021, 12:15 PM

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Ypao, audyssey, mcacc all are calibration tools to help us to get correct sound level of each channel include subwoofer. Every time I only hear people increase sound level of center channel or subwoofer, never heard people said try to reduce sound level to get correct sound level. Maybe Some people think Bigger sound level better than correct sound level"

Sound like, If our tv can do auto calibration so easily. I think some people will also increase the saturation of color ignore accuracy of color. Because they like deep color , over saturate color better than correct color in their mind.

I saw a light blue house, I take a photo. After I put the photo show at TV. I don't like it, I adjust my tv. So the house become deep blue. Wah, So My tv is so great , Can show the house so deep blue.
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QUOTE(kkthen @ Nov 2 2021, 12:15 PM)
Ypao, audyssey, mcacc  all are calibration tools to help us to get correct sound level of each channel include subwoofer.  Every time I only hear people increase  sound level of center channel or subwoofer, never heard people said try to reduce sound level to get correct sound level. Maybe Some people think Bigger  sound level better than correct sound level"

Sound like,  If our tv can do auto calibration so easily.  I think  some people will also increase the saturation of color  ignore accuracy of  color. Because they like deep color ,  over saturate color better than  correct color in their mind.

I saw a light blue house, I take a photo.  After I put the photo show at TV.  I don't like it, I adjust my tv. So the house become deep blue.  Wah, So My tv is so  great , Can show the house so deep blue.
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Good analogy.

The whole notion of "increase center channel" level all stemmed from:

- Poor center channel placement. 9/10 times I see people place their center channel wrongly; pushed all the way back to the front wall, diffracting off the edges of their TV console, something blocking the way of their center channel, center channel not angled to ear level and is firing to the listener's crotch instead of their ears.

- Buying the typically bad designed MTM center channels. Most people don't realize that when a manufacturer does center channel, their design and build budget for a typical line up is mostly taken up by the L and R speakers. The center channel receives the least amount of attention, yet in a multi surround setup, the center channel is BY FAR the most important speaker in the system.


Personally, I don't have to ever increase my center channel's level. It's perfectly level matched with the L and R. It's a very simple rule to follow, but I'm baffled that people don't follow it.
Often times when people increase their center channel is because they can't hear what is being said on screen, this creates the issue when there's a soundtrack panning from front soundstage. It's always not seamless, with a very obvious bump when say someone's voice is panning from the L side of the screen to the right side, the middle portion will always sound obnoxious.

As for subs, some people like their subs "hot". So there can be an exception where the subs aren't level matched with the rest of the speakers. But in order to run subs hot without it sounding dreaded and boomy, one first needs to measure their room response in order to know just how much they can boost. This is something YPAO, Audyssey, and MCACC don't show you. ARC and DIRAC does. REW while not an auto-EQ per se does.
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post Nov 2 2021, 03:27 PM

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wow so many nice suggestions.

Ok, i'll ask him to set front channel as floorstand, do the subwoofer crawl, -ve gain from ypao, set the center channel at proper place, and annoy the neighbors by turning up the subwoofer!!
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Hi guys
Have a svs sb2000pro subwoofer to let go.
As i upgraded to svs higher range
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Price is 4k. Please whatapps me at 0162204825
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QUOTE(cubicle @ Nov 1 2021, 10:06 AM)
yo guys,

My friend finally got the yamaha rx-a2a from a&l audio (from ct seong, because his service is too good). Got himself a starke sound sw12 subwoofer for the av amp (from my other friend), and set it all up with his edifier unused satellite (s550).

It brought a big smile to him n his wife.

The yamaha design is neat, easy to clean and sounds nice. Although the ypao doesnt really gives him what he wants, but he just takes time to adjust the gain.

Now left the last speaker poison which i need to add in few months later  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

If anyone here has yamaha amp experience, please let me know which brand to pair with it.

Thanks so much for the heads up before this.
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Yes seong service is super excellent. My HT system except sub all bought from AL because of him. His boss is also very friendly.

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post Jan 3 2022, 04:43 PM

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Seek advice from the experienced AV players here for the following:

I am looking to upgrade my AV set up to Atmos, from 5.0 channel old school Dolby surround / prologic/ DTS/DD. So I have a set of 5 speakers already in place.

I recently acquired a Denon X4300H, ultimately I may upgrade all the way to 11.0 (no sub for now). My question is below if anyone can give some ideas:

1. Now I have 5.0 speaker set up, to calibrate the denon, from what I read, I should set the front LCR channel to 0db, then fine tune the surround by ears, before using the Audyssey to fine tune, is that a correct sequence?

2. One pair of surround back speakers are on the way (imported from China, just a typical stereo speakers) which I will set up as rear surround, most likely to be set as Rear Height in view of the pre-existing wiring in place.

3. Another 4 Ceiling speakers will be imported from China too, obviously it will be used for ceiling set up unless the situation demand, I can mod it with a DIY casing as Front height and Surround Height.

4. All the above is because I have two options: either I can use all speakers to set up pure Atmos (which use 4 ceilings) or Auro-3D, which uses 2 Front Height and 2 Surround Heights. My question is, from your own experience, it is worth setting up Auro-3D speakers location for BOTH Atmos and Auro? It can be done by setting the rear as rear height for Denon.

Or I should just focus on Atmos alone. I need to pay extra to download Auro-3D firmware to allow Auro playback.

Finally, I have Mi Box S as Kodi playback, now can't really do passthrough for Atmos etc, so any other media box should I change to, eg. Mecool KM2, or others. Any other box I should consider?

Thank you all for advice.

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QUOTE(peter32 @ Jan 3 2022, 04:43 PM)
Seek advice from the experienced AV players here for the following:

I am looking to upgrade my AV set up to Atmos, from 5.0 channel old school Dolby surround / prologic/ DTS/DD. So I have a set of 5 speakers already in place.

I recently acquired a Denon X4300H, ultimately I may upgrade all the way to 11.0 (no sub for now). My question is below if anyone can give some ideas:

1. Now I have 5.0 speaker set up, to calibrate the denon, from what I read, I should set the front LCR channel to 0db, then fine tune the surround by ears, before using the Audyssey to fine tune, is that a correct sequence?

2. One pair of surround back speakers are on the way (imported from China, just a typical stereo speakers) which I will set up as rear surround, most likely to be set as Rear Height in view of the pre-existing wiring in place.

3. Another 4 Ceiling speakers will be imported from China too, obviously it will be used for ceiling set up unless the situation demand, I can mod it with a DIY casing as Front height and Surround Height.

4. All the above is because I have two options: either I can use all speakers to set up pure Atmos (which use 4 ceilings) or Auro-3D, which uses 2 Front Height and 2 Surround Heights.  My question is, from your own experience, it is worth setting up Auro-3D speakers location for BOTH Atmos and Auro? It can be done by setting the rear as rear height for Denon.

Or I should just focus on Atmos alone. I need to pay extra to download Auro-3D firmware to allow Auro playback.

Finally, I have Mi Box S as Kodi playback, now can't really do passthrough for Atmos etc, so any other media box should I change to, eg. Mecool KM2, or others. Any other box I should consider?

Thank you all for advice.
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My advise focus on Atmos. You want cheap solution, you can try zidoo media player. Or Far better sound quality like ipuk media player.
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QUOTE(kkthen @ Jan 4 2022, 11:50 AM)
My advise focus on Atmos.  You want cheap solution, you can try zidoo media player. Or Far better sound quality  like ipuk media player.
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Noted. Sound quality is important to me. Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(peter32 @ Jan 3 2022, 04:43 PM)
Seek advice from the experienced AV players here for the following:

I am looking to upgrade my AV set up to Atmos, from 5.0 channel old school Dolby surround / prologic/ DTS/DD. So I have a set of 5 speakers already in place.

I recently acquired a Denon X4300H, ultimately I may upgrade all the way to 11.0 (no sub for now). My question is below if anyone can give some ideas:

1. Now I have 5.0 speaker set up, to calibrate the denon, from what I read, I should set the front LCR channel to 0db, then fine tune the surround by ears, before using the Audyssey to fine tune, is that a correct sequence?

2. One pair of surround back speakers are on the way (imported from China, just a typical stereo speakers) which I will set up as rear surround, most likely to be set as Rear Height in view of the pre-existing wiring in place.

3. Another 4 Ceiling speakers will be imported from China too, obviously it will be used for ceiling set up unless the situation demand, I can mod it with a DIY casing as Front height and Surround Height.

4. All the above is because I have two options: either I can use all speakers to set up pure Atmos (which use 4 ceilings) or Auro-3D, which uses 2 Front Height and 2 Surround Heights.  My question is, from your own experience, it is worth setting up Auro-3D speakers location for BOTH Atmos and Auro? It can be done by setting the rear as rear height for Denon.

Or I should just focus on Atmos alone. I need to pay extra to download Auro-3D firmware to allow Auro playback.

Finally, I have Mi Box S as Kodi playback, now can't really do passthrough for Atmos etc, so any other media box should I change to, eg. Mecool KM2, or others. Any other box I should consider?

Thank you all for advice.
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1) No, you should just run Audyssey and allow it to level match all your speakers for you. Whatever level the speakers are at before running Audyssey would be overwritten by it anyways. If you have a SPL meter, you can verify your speakers as being level matched after Audyssey is done. Make sure you follow the proper way of calibrating Audyssey, more info HERE.

2 and 3) This will not work. If you're going to have in-ceiling speakers for Atmos/DTSX duties, then your surround back (and side surrounds) has to be at bed level which is located at your ear level (1-2ft above your ear is still ok). The point is that surrounds and height speakers need to have a gap between them or otherwise you'll defeat the purpose of object based surround as there won't be proper separation of sound effects.

4) Atmos works with front heights and rear heights too btw, if you really want to dabble with Auro-3D you'll also need to add a middle height speaker directly above of you for the "voice of god" channel. This is up to you entirely. IMO, I really only use Auro-3D's upmixing because there are no native Auro-3D titles to begin with. It's nice for sure, but not really a big game changer.

5) At the very least, get an Nvidia Shield Pro. There are other higher end players like the IPUK 8592 Pro if you require a physical UHD disc player (I doubt anyone will be willing to part with their Oppo 203/205, no matter how much you offer them). But if you're running all digital, the Shield Pro is perfect for that.

PLEASE READ, IMPORTANT as you've left this very critical piece info out:
- You're not using any sub, this means that the 4300H will have to provide ALL the power to your speakers. You didn't state the size of your room, but depending on it and your preferred listening levels, know that your receiver may not be able to handle the load as low frequencies require a shit ton of power to reproduce. You also run the risk of clipping your speakers if you're fond of playing very loud. More over, the 4300H already runs pretty warm so if you're going down this route, make sure to have some active cooling for it.

- The 4300H out of the box ONLY does up to 9.2 channels. It cannot do 11.2 channels WITHOUT external amplification. This means that if you're going to do 11 channels, you MUST get at the very least an external 2 channel amp in order for the receiver to fully utilize its 11 channels processing capability.
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SSJBen, thank you very much for your precious info.

1. Indeed your info, esp on the area of Auro-3D would be important. Its not cheap to purchase the licence for it, so for that matter, I will more likely to study the placement of speakers in greater details before digging holes on the ceiling for sure. My existing L/R surround is about 2-3 feet above ear level (when sitting down) because thats how the earlier surround speakers are being placed. Its also a Bipolar unit too but apparently it can still be used, Dipole would have problem with Atmos, but not Bipole.

2. Room is not an ideal room, its a sitting room but in 3-4M x 7m length, not acoustically ideal for sure, but its a rectangular room in 2/3 of the space, another 1/3 is an opened space. Not perfect but have to live with it.

3. I will be using my old AVR as power amp to drive the front 2 speakers. So I can fix up all 11 channels of speakers from the Denon. Most likely I won't drive vol up most of the time unless there is some odd explosion here and there from the scenes.

4. Yes the amp does run hot after a while. What active cooling tools would you recommend?

5. Question: Is the Denon Pre-out active all the time ? Or I need to select Speaker configuration to allow Pre-out at certain channels?

6. Final Question: Is there a way for me to select digital optical input for the same video channel? eg. channel 1: media box with HDMI audio default intpu. Channel 2: Media box video input via HDMI but audio using Optical in.

I tried but does not seems to work this way.

Your input will be greatly appreciated.

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