I've never tried the ypao on the yamaha, have just been using it as it is. From reading so much good things audyssey and room correction in general, I am going to try it out coz it seems to have a big impact.

Have not had any distortion on my modest yamaha so far so I am thinking that modest power is enough for my needs.

Thanks for sharing your experience with both brands. Good info yo help me choose.

Thanks again. I think the marantz is shaping up to be the better option. Good info on the tiny display, but seems like a small price to pay for the better choice.

X1300 seems to be not as popular as the x2300 but its 33% cheaper so I am considering that as well. Based on the power rating, the marantz can probably play louder and cleaner. Its good to have the headroom.

I don't think I need video processing since the TV will upconvert everything to 4k native resolution. Is the x2300/5011 able to overlay menu in 4k? Not sure how important this is as I see most AVR menus don't look nice due to low resolution.
Even without video processing can see the volume on the TV right? I am able to see it now with my 371 when I change the volume using the TV remote (with ARC).

Thanks for chipping in, its good to hear your experience coz your v375 is probably very close sounding to my 371. Did you try YPAO previously & Audyssey now, how much difference does it make? Can you elaborate on how its better? Does it sound fuller, more detailed, can play louder, etc? Want to have an idea of what I can expect. Thanks.

That is good to know. My Yamaha doesn't have any GUI that displays on TV, have to rely on the dot matrix display screen. I've seen some Aventages and some other brands I don't remember which a few years ago that have really ugly (grainy text heavy) GUI but I guess as long as it works its good enough but sure would be nice to have a pretty gui.

I see, I must've seen an older one then.
Does that mean Yamaha can go louder but not as nice as Marantz/Denon?

I see. I think lower end Yamaha models always have problems with bass. Someone told me once that its because of lower voltage from the sub preout, not sure if this is true though.

Want to share my recent AVR experience.

I was here a few months ago asking about getting a new AVR. I wanted to get the Denon X2300W or the Marantz SR5011 to replace my old Yamaha RX-V371. I found a used Denon X1300W for a good price so I grabbed it. The features were good compared to my old AVR but the sound was very thin and not as exciting even compared to the yammy 371 I had previously.

A month later I sold it and bought the Marantz SR5011 (I actually made a gain because I sold the X1300 for a higher price than I bought it). I am happy to report that I am totally awed by it! The mids are just amazingly solid and my "docile" PSB sub just came alive and I can now feel the sub in my face and chest instead of just hearing it. Truly amazing to see such a big difference between these two AVRs, especially since the X1300 is only 1 step below X2300 and SR5011 in terms of product range.

The only shortcoming of the SR5011 is that the highs are not as exciting as the Yamaha was. The highs sound good and solid but doesn't tingle the senses like the Yammy did. I suppose the Yammy is a bit bright and the Marantz is warmer. Well, you can't have everything, but overall I'm very happy with the upgrade and feel that its a very worthwhile upgrade.

I would also say, that the X1300 is to be avoided. It's really not worth the price. Either spend more for the SR5011 or get a budget Yammy which may not be great but does sound a lot better then the Denon.

My comparison is accurate. The X3300 is higher range than 5011. Even the Audyssey version is different with Denon getting the better XT32. RSP for X3300 is USD1k vs SR5011 at USD900. Marantz always sells at a higher price compared to its Denon counterpart. Yes, I'm aware that both are under D&M Group. The X2300 is probably as good as the SR5011 but since both are selling at almost the same price here, my opinion is that the Marantz is more bang for buck due to pre-outs and more power (as per the max watts rating at the back panel). This was also consistent with the advice I got from this thread in April.

Sounds like a software issue. Are you sure its the receiver and not the media player/source?

That means that they have no stock at their place at that time. Can also buy from 11street. They had the cheapest price when I last checked but not by much. Repacking means what? Repack display set? If they do that usually it will be quite obvious coz their display set is not in perfect condition due to auditions etc. From my experience they usually will tell you if they are gonna give you the display set.

If you don't need 4k/hdr/atmos/dts-x, you can find low mid-tier used units in mudah or hifi4sale. This would be good value for money compared to buying a new unit.

Your best bet for under RM1k will be computer speakers (active speakers with their own built-in amplifiers). You will have to see what type of connections your TV has right now for external audio and make sure the active speakers are able to take that connection. You can use headphone out from your TV (not all TVs have this) or the RCA jacks (which are rare these days) or Optical out (most tvs have this but most PC speakers don't have it).

This is one good example I found at Mudah :
PSB Alpha

You can also find many new active speakers like Edifier, Thonet & Vander & others within your budget.

The downside of such systems is they are not scalable so you will not be able to add speakers, a subwoofer or an amp in most cases. But they serve the purpose of giving you much better audio than your TV speakers and most cheap soundbars.

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with the ad in Mudah just sharing what I found.

Choose the same type as your existing ones or experiment with horn or aluminium tweeters?

If those are branded speakers, you might be able to find their original drivers on ebay.

I meant the same type as the one you want to replace i.e. dome / aluminium / etc. For tweeter frequency should be better to go higher but I think quality should always come first before frequency.

Vocals are covered by midrange. Tweeter only for high frequencies.

While you are technically right, those are outliers and not the norm. Most vocals exist in the midrange.

Actually its the other way around. Marantz is always sold at a premium compared to the equivalent Denon. And Marantz does not have low budget models like Denon, it starts at a higher price threshold.
For the equivalent models, e.g. X2400 vs SR5012, Marantz always has slightly better specs like HDAM and pre-outs which was already mentioned. Also, the total power draw in wattage is higher which may indicate better components.
Since is the pricing in Malaysia for the equivalent models are similar (as opposed to Marantz being significantly more expensive in other countries), it makes sense to get the Marantz instead of Denon.