QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 22 2016, 02:49 PM)
any movement must run ypao or manual adjust distance.
u move rear to side the original distance compensation is a lot, causing funny problem of coverage & loud like u experienced.
well, as you mentioned front spk sound like missing hole during straight /pure direct. can u tell what spk model & ypao level, distance?
the room size is simlar to mine, using wide wall 6x4m.
i suspect is not toe angle, but distance far apart between front L & R. the triangle projected behind seat instead. try stand that area to listen in straight /direct mode
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 22 2016, 06:10 PM)
Take measuring tape, those use for house renovation. Than seat at your position and move the measuring tape 360 around to get the distance. At least you know what ever position you have is correct
Ya, I did run YPAO everytime adjustments are made. But in this case YPAO failed to help.
I'm pretty impressed with YPAO as the measurements are spot on. It was YPAO that initially made me realize that my surround will not be at equal distance!! (I mis-calculated on the floor tiles).
My fronts are at FL 2.6m (0db), C 2.45m (-3.5db), FR 2.6m (0db), SL 2.65 (2.0db), SR 2.2m (1.5db) from listening position. My FLR is 2.0m apart.
With some of the surround test videos from demo.world.eu, I was able to adjust and confirm that my speakers are in proper position. Much easier than watching movies.
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 22 2016, 07:00 PM)
Directly to the sides? It usually does sound bad because this position is usually too distinctive (this is also why you have a hole on the back). Poor tweeter design will also make everything sound very artificial and harsh. Direct side positions should only be used for dipole/bipole speakers and even then they need to be about 3ft at least higher than the MLP.
The idea surround location for monopole (which are satellites or bookshelves) is about 2ft. behind (or more, depending on the size of the room of course), 20-30 degrees angled. Alternatively, you can just place the surround speakers directly at the back.
For reference, this is my secondary bedroom setup:
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So you see, even with a bed right next to my couch, I managed to have a cohesive soundstage just with some logical adjustments despite the setup not being "correct" or "optimized".
My LR speakers on this may look more toed-in than it seems, but it's just the angle of the picture btw.
Thanks for the advice and photo of your setup. They explained a lot. At least now I know that it is possible to put speakers that close together.