Can Read chinese? if not, than really sorry my friends.

费用吗，根据地区不同，差距可就大了！小弟在福冈地区，生活费相对来说来可以接受！随便说说吧！大家都挺不容易的！

学费/ 400000/年！---别科！！大学学费，国公立50--80万不等！私立60--120万不等！如果成绩还可以，拿个奖学金是不错的选择！想来想去，学费实在没有办法节省！

一日三餐/ 12000日元/月！鸡鱼肉蛋，蔬菜，咸菜等经常换换花样。在外面也挺不容易的！不要把身体搞跨了，怎么见江东父老呢！只要是不浪费随便吃，10000顶天了！千万不要和不需要打工的同学比，也不要和只需要挣生活费，家里支付学费的同学比！会比死人的！像我一个朋友骑着1000000几十万的摩托，简直赛宝马！再加上驾照等一些费用，更吓人了！

房租/ 26000日元/月！因为是和一个朋友合租的！13000日元搞定！定金礼金等120000！否则是拿不到钥匙的！水在一定量内免费！我几乎天天洗澡，却从来没超过！和东京比起来，只能偷着乐了！房子还可以！都说日本房子小，这点在这里我还真没感觉到！单独卧室，单独厨房，卫生间浴池在一块！挺不错了！顺便说一下，本人还在房子外面搭了个小窝，养了只非常非常可爱的小猫眯，呵呵，邻居们也都非常喜欢它，隔壁公寓的一对日本恋人还经常买专门的猫食喂它！我是舍不得呀，400多块一包呀。最多喂一周！靠！可是一盒肉的价钱呀！留学生--节俭！

电话费/ 4000日元/月！AU公司。内含免费200分钟，如果不浪费，只是和国内亲人联系，足够了！当然偶尔也要和朋友联系一下！即便超点10日元/分也还可以接受！因为小弟国内的牵挂稍微多点，前两个月稍微高了点，简直叫人挖脚心！不过从第3个月就进入正轨了！呵呵！如果再想省就用3000料金的，每月免费100分钟。超了15日元/分！这样好像就有点不划算了！因为在日本也有朋友呀，偶尔也要联系一下感情，相互鼓励一下！

电费/ 5000日元/月！三个日光灯，一个灯泡。冰箱嘛24小时运行！如果在夏天就相应高点了，不开空调热的实在对不起自己！不过除了上课和打工还有多少时间能呆在家里呢！再加几千元就OK了！冬天烧灯油，1500/桶，能烧1--2周！看自己的了！留学生--节俭！

煤气费/ 4000日元/月！如果在餐馆打工就能省点了！我可是不舍得在外面买着吃呀！一个便当最便宜的也要300多块！我要吃3盒才能饱！要人命呀！自己作，一定要自己作！但是还要看自己挣的钱与时间！呵呵，我每次都焖满满一锅米，炖满一锅菜！又买了个便当盒---搞定！留学生--节俭！

Luckily , i can read chinese. Thanks alot my friend . I appreciate it very much . Looks like its not really easy to survive there.

But just now the consultant in IBT called me up . And i asked him alot of question and all my questions are answered . According to him , U can get school fees exemption . If u get 100% school fees exemption , ur scholaarship will go to ur living expenses. If u dont get school fees exemption , u can work part time and everything can be covered . 1 week 28 hours only . So basically financial is not as hard as i think . But i'll of course need to work hard to get those .

Yeah thus the very popular word...gambateh ne

After calculating the numbers given in the article above, i find that the living expenses are not as high as i thought . 12000 yen = RM 400 per month for food is not that expensive .

Thanks Magic-addict ! Will ganbatte of course

Yeah.

I'm goin IBT anyway. For my masters in Japan. Hope to gain entrance. Have u enrolled? Heard the deadline for the jan classes are over.

RM 400 for 1x month living expenses is very very cheap. I spend almost 1.5K every month in malaysia during my studies so you know its almost 3 times cheaper . But I don't know if being a gaijin in Japan will cost you more like a foreigner is in Malaysia...if you know what i meant.

Oh yeah for anyone who actually have studied in IBT before, can we somehow gain some examption if we have a certain proficiency in basic Japanese?

What does Beginner 1 and 2, Intermediate 1 and 2 means for the part-time classes?

This post has been edited by magic-addict: Dec 28 2006, 11:30 PM

Magic addict, i'm going for the April intake . How bout u ? Remember to say Hi when u meet me there XD hahaha . Yes the jan intake is closed .

Mind explain more on this?

This post has been edited by david890701: Dec 29 2006, 12:52 AM

I have another question though. Anyone has any experience with working part time in Japan ? Or any knowledge regarding this ? I think i'll need to work part time to support my living expenses there. Please enlighten me, thanks

日本是一个发达的资本主义国家，服务行业高度发达。由于在日本雇佣正式职工需要交纳更多的佣金，税金以及各种保险费用，而日本现在的经济又很不景气，因此钟点工这种可以根据营业状况灵活调整劳动人数和劳动时间，相关连带费用又少的雇佣方式在现今日本的服务行业中占有极为重要的位置。这无疑为留学生打钟点工提供了较好的环境和背景。

纵观留学生打工现状，大多数都是在打餐饮店的钟点工，比如当服务员招待客人、打扫卫生、在厨房洗碗和从事一些辅助工作。其他留学生从事较多的服务行业还包括咖啡店、游戏机房、卡拉OK、24小时便利店、配送报纸、清扫公司等等。这些工作劳动强度一般，工资也不是很高。

以我所在的大阪为例，咖啡店，便利店等劳动强度较低的场所工资一般在700-800日元每小时，繁忙的餐饮店在900-1000日元每小时，一些通宵营业的店铺工资较高，能有1000-1500日元每小时，但劳动强度也相对较大，并且只有在深夜12点以后的时间段才能拿到高工资。打通宵的话工资虽高，可工作到深夜的话对身体状况和学习都会有较大的影响，应尽量避免。

一些在国内养尊处优的女生来到日本吃不了打工的苦，又愁于交不起高额的学费与生活费，只好去夜总会这样的场所陪人喝酒聊天。那样的话尽管工资很高，每小时2500-4000日元，可是由于违反日本有关外国人管理的法规，被警察抓住的话是要被遣送回国的。况且作为留学生去做那种工作毕竟不算光彩，所以只是个别情况。

关于留学生的打工，日本的法规有明确规定：留学生在日本打工必须持有日本的出入境管理局发给的打工许可书。尚未进入大学，在日语学校或者大学预科学习的留学生每天可工作4小时之内；在大学学习的留学生每周可工作28小时之内，每天的工作时间不受限制。寒暑假期间每天可工作8小时；就读硕士，博士课程的研究生每天可工作4小时之内。

这样看来，大学生由于课程可以自己安排调整打工的时间，因此日本对留学生每天的打工时间不加限制，仅对每周的工作时间做出规定。研究生等大学生之外的留学生由于要保证学习时间，所以每天打工的时间被限制在4个小时之内。如果照这么算的话，就算一个月30天每天都上班，最多也只能打120个小时左右。工资就算按每小时1000日元算也只有12万日元，距离最低限的收入都差30000日元！这样下去没几个月留学生个个都要因入不敷出而回国了。

实际上，除了如麦当劳、肯德基这样的大型公司外，大多数的餐饮店雇用留学生时并不一定要交打工许可书。只要语言没什么大问题，店里人手不够，老板对你又比较满意的话都会雇用。因此，为了得到足够的收入，大多数的留学生都是在这种不要求提出打工许可书的餐饮店里打工，尽管严格来说这是不合法的。如果想遵纪守法又想赚够钱的话那也很简单，可以找两份工，把上班的时间岔开。这样你一天打8个小时也不必担心违法了。

那么，挣出足够的钱要工作多长时间呢？按每小时工资900日元来算的话，一个月最少要工作200个小时才能挣到18万日元。如果每周休息一天，按一个月工作25天来算的话，每天平均要工作8个小时！哪怕你花钱省一些，工资高一些，160个小时是总要的。

不要忘了，打工的同时你还必须老老实实去学校上课，不然出勤率太差的话连签证都更新不了。因为作为留学生，本来就是来学习的嘛。大多数在日本的留学生每天都过着起了床就赶着去上学，放了学就赶着去打工，到了家已是筋疲力尽倒头便睡，艰苦而又枯燥的生活！这样的生活有两个最大的好处：第一你绝对可以保持完美的体形，因为你消耗的体力和热量很难被那些廉价的食品完全补充。第二可以磨炼你吃苦的精神、顽强的意志，如果碰上考试，你必须上完了班再看一通宵的书，然后洗把脸就去考试。

只有适应了这样的打工生活，才能真正在日本生存下去。而可以支撑你战胜这一切的，将只有一件东西，那就是你心中的理想！亲爱的朋友，看完了这些，你是否还有勇气来到这里和我一起接受挑战呢？

My gf worked part-time before during first and second year. Around 800 yen per hour in a Japanese Restaurant. She worked few hours a day, few days a week. Quite pity her, coz had to cycling an hour to work.

After she got the scholarship for 3rd and final year, she stopped the job immediately, coz need to concentrate on her study. 100,000 per month, enough for her living expenses. Rotary club scholarship is a very rich club and having branches around the world.

For degree student, you can only apply during 3rd and final year, but this only can apply when recommended by your selected university. For master student, around 140,000 per month for 2 years . And every month, you have to attend for the meeting of the club. You can gain lot of experience during meeting with the upper societies in Japan. Most of the members of Rotary Club is director of a company.

My gf study in Public University, the tuition fee per year is around 600,000 yen. In her 1st, 2nd and 3rd year, she got 50% deduction on her tuition fee. So around 300,000 yen per year cost her for the tuition fee. Is around RM9,000 per year, cheaper compare to private university in Malaysia. Unluckily, she can't get reduction on her tuition fee during final year, may be because she already got her scholarship.

For the accomodation, she stayed in the university hostel until 3rd year of her study. Around RM150 per month ( not included the electricity and water usage ), unbelievable cheap price! Even in Malaysia, you can't get a price that cheaper than that, haha! In 4th year, she moved to cityhall hostel, around RM300 per month, coz i went Japan to visited her. Still very cheap! A room that included kitchen and bathroom.

Next year she will graduate. While most of the Malaysia graduated students still panic about their career, she already get a job offer in Tokyo, Japan during study in third year. This the benefit to study in Japan, the university students in Japan will start seeking their job while studying in final year. A lot of career fairs will be held in Japan.

Cheers! Enjoy ur study in Japan.

This post has been edited by re-killer: Dec 29 2006, 03:02 AM

LOL . After reading both posts above really did enlighten me alot . THanks alot re-killer !

Looks like surviving in Japan isn't that hard afterall , i agree with this statement

Yes, its your dream . This is my dream.


Thanks alot . Send my regards to ur girlfriend

right... u also can be a "Yakuza" hehe kiding only..

I think i'll be goin in with april intake as well. Have you actually enrolled or planning to enrol? Seems you've made up your mind. I'll be doin part time for my Jap lessons , not the pre-u studies that is required for Jap universities.

The gaijin = foreigner. So what i was sayin was, i am not too sure if you're a foreigner would incur 'extra' charges like a foreigner in Malaysia. Sometimes shops charges extra here if they see you belong to the foreigner class. So better to check if it happens in the place you plan to go.

Cool . Yes i've talked to the consultant and i'll send in my form once i got my SPM results . More or less, i'll be in . Okay, i'll be full time though . Its nice to have a friend there together , we can teach each other XD haha .Are yours the 12 months course?

Alright for the gaijin thing , i'm not sure but i think i have 1.5 years to check out . I'll ask the ppl in IBT again . Thanks for ur information and hope to see u soon



This post has been edited by david890701: Dec 29 2006, 11:46 PM

I've asked the person there regarding this just now . They say u can get tuition fees waive if u get good results during the semester . I think u might want to ask them for further infomation .

sorry thread starter ,but i also have to get some advise from ppl around
i'm also considering to take a course on Gaming in Japan, i'm currently studying interior architecture (1st year jus finished) but i really cant stand the assignments cause all year round i have no time to really spend wit family and friends ,i'm busy from the beginning of the semester till the end
so i'm really thinkin bout changing course but i am not getting much support (mentally) from family and friends .
BUt my parents are asking me to think it through and i think they would provide financial support for studying the entire course
I'm not sure if i should continue studyin something which i don't like
or to change and waste 2-3 years of my life (1 year for this hell of a year and 1-2 years for learning the japanese language )
there are also other factors which is making me vry stress ovr this issue but i prefer to not say it
if there is any1 out there which hav experience wat i am experiencing right now , hopefully pm me
this issue has aledy bug me for the past 2-3 weeks and really wish to solve it quick
btw i'm 18 (not sure if age is a factor in determining this choice)

Basically, u dont waste 2-3 years . U need only 1.5 years for the pre-u which include japanese language as well , and straight away go Japan for ur degree . HOpe u can get over ur problem soon

just wanna ask some stupid quest. izzit hard to master japan language?
coz i wanna take 3rd language but dunno yet which language to take.

I have found a useful site. It shows all the average cost of studying in Japan for both Undergrad and Masters.
url=http://www.studyinjapan.org.my/04_study/04_study4.html

It also shows all the recommended Japanese Language Schools in Malaysia.
url=http://www.studyinjapan.org.my/04_study/04_study11_school.html

This post has been edited by mikelee: Jan 3 2007, 02:35 PM

I'm studying and staying here in Tokyo (yesh, central Tokyo. Akihabara is 2 stops from my house)

My Japanese language is just basic survival stuff - I came here not under any govn' sponsor at all, so I have no 1-2 years of those language learning - I just arrive here and tembak my way every single day, mixing my english with my malay with my japanese i dun even know chinese, curse words i know lar

Life here lepak onli for a regular kopitiam guy like me, just need to know what to say and where to find cheap places to buy stuff (and in my case, know where to buy halal food).

It has been since April 2006, and I'm still alive here in my room.
Everyday learn new stuff, everyday sure got funny experience with the japanese ppl.
If a simple guy like me can do it, I think anybody also can laa