I guess somehow this could be attribute to some funny reason that when people are Christian, they are automatically associated with being 100% Christian or Christ-like but in fact like all other religions, Christians are always on the journey of learning.
Another reason is probably because of the contradiction that was said. They said such and such are sins, but they themselves did those and still dare to condemn others. I guess this is why people are irked.

Anyway, I learnt a lot from conversations here

It's just like one of the case where a leader condemns extra marital affair and he did it himself. I'm not saying the Church is wrong in this case, but rather why people would feel the hypocrisy from the things some people did. Well, I take these accounts as a lesson, that when we try to tell someone who did something wrong, check on ourselves whether we did the same mistake too, and what we did to correct it. It makes the advice more convincing.

coz it happened. and then that. but why do u wanna know? Are you trying to find out if it's true?

actually, what happened between him not recognizing Jesus for three times and after he is reinstated.
I guess probably he regretted a lot. But I could not find reference as to how the story goes.

And also, do u think Pontius Pilate is the bad guy? Coz I find it rather "odd" when reciting the Apostle's Creed. I always think of him less "bad" but more "political". And I never understand why there are so many people wanted Jesus dead.

I understand. The thing is, being able to understand and being able to perform are two different thing. And to me, the fundamental idea is that everyone learns until the day one dies. So, the subject A who goes to church every week could have performed more things "Christian-like" but that is also depending on how quickly the person learns, how much one has to overcome current "mistakes" and practice Christian ways of doing things, and ultimately, no one is free from committing err.
Even though I do sense a certain "hypocrisy" in what a hypothetical subject A could have done, I will try to adjust my perception to be more forgiving. After all, it's all about how we carry ourselves, right?

I concur to a certain extent. Whether the dad is a positive or negative role model, it does have a certain impact on children.

Hey hey chill man. I'm not blaming you. It's not simply hey dad's not going to church. I'll not go too. I did not follow the previous conversations closely. Did u talk to him closely about his pullout from going?

Yeah you're right. It's complicated.
The church I went, it stressed heavily on building family as the nucleus of Christianity. Or at least I interpreted what the pastor said that way. I agree. Seems like Mr. Son isn't that much influenced by you (or at least in terms of religious beliefs).

Anyway, is your relationship with him tight?

Finished catching up. Thanks for sharing your story.
About the role model thing, it acts both ways. Dad was born in quite a chaotic family. Gamblers, gamblers everywhere. Each has wives. But my dad held on to his own. He doesn't wanna be like the rest of the siblings (to be accurate, his sister is also the better of the bunch). So, to each his own I would say. But if we talk about influence, yes, to some extent you do influence your son. But not totally, especially teenagers (who in anecdote belief are more susceptible to peer influence).

Forget about the role model thing, I'm in no position to give you a better advice than the rest of us here. If you don't mind, I will add one more thing: This period of time will pass. Pray hard to God that He will lead him through his journey of self-finding. Who knows, the right church for him might be somewhere else, and he could fit there better? (This happens to me, somehow). I'm always against Christian, to be fair, because of certain individuals around me who happen to be (in my opinion)... ah, spare me the cursing. I learn a lot from their influence (or negatively reacted) by studying through online sources and reading the bible. Ended up having many unanswered questions, but found a church which could open my eyes (or ears) (thank God for so far so good). So, hopefully your son will come across some place where he belongs.

Thanks for sharing. I may not be of much help, and I'm frank of that. Just that I hope with my minute knowledge I could provide some kind of perspective which could probably be a little helpful to alleviate the issue.

Hmm.. My point is, sometimes the influence is not apparent or rather one of the many factors in play. Unless you totally did not communicate with your son (which I think you did a lot), but the effect isn't what we hoped it would be. Stay strong, and keep finding ways to help him

Everyone has, to a certain degree I guess

maybe simply because you drank too much and need to go to the washroom?

Thank you. This is a confidence booster

I notice sometimes I woke up around midnight because the temperature changes. Suddenly it seems warmer.
But most of the time, the drowsiness will pull me back to the dreams lol.