QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Aug 3 2016, 03:10 PM)
I know what you mean about God harden Pharaoh's heart but what come first in terms of manifesting His power visibly is turning the cane/rod into a snake, turning Moses's hand's skin leprous, the water taken from river of Nile to blood and that should be sufficient. It in turn, then God harden Pharaoh's heart which come's later in the sequences of event/plan. So ONLY Moses and his brother know of God's plan and what were to follow, not the rest of the people present during that day. If you or me were there at the moment, we won't know after all THIS, it's a no go for those slaves. So, I am sure those slaves who are believer could have prayed to be free from the bond of Pharaoh but it is not to be and it turn out to be a TRIAL for those people - as I see it. You get my point.
Going back to the original Pharaoh question: we often forget that many parts of the Bible are written in traditional Israeli poetic/literary form. This is one of them. When it is said 'God hardened his heart', it simply means Pharaoh hardened his heart. The reasoning is that, it is obvious to all that God is omnipotent. Should he want to, he could change our hearts so that we will worship him forever. But he has always demonstrated that he will allow humans free will in all things even to the point of his chosen people killing his ultimate messenger, the Son. That Pharaoh did not listen even after 9 plagues is merely free will in action. And God has planned for it all in advance, so that he has a whole Red Sea up his sleeve to drown the Egyptian army.
Hence it is said that God 'hardened Pharaoh's heart', by allowing him free will.
By my understanding anyway. And also, from a quick Google, these guys: http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx...11&article=1205
That page is quite good as it examines the topic from practically all angles.
QUOTE(shioks @ Aug 3 2016, 05:51 PM)
how does this relate to Blindspot's Pharaoh question?I think you tried to make the same point that I did above regarding free will, but the enigmatic "go do research" mode of delivery is somewhat confusing.
Aug 3 2016, 06:12 PM

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