Stop saying us. YOU are No 1 on my target list. You who sits on a self made pedestal of spiritual arrogance and passes judgement on those who stand up to you. Now ppl are beginning to see you for who you really are. A coward who deletes posts which depict him in poor light.

Nothing has been proven. As usua you will claim a lot of things with no substance. I responded to taunts and judgement and I will continue to smash YOU and any of your other blind followers. You asked for war and war is what you have got.

Why stopped deleting posts today? Scared when others have questioned your actions? Embarassed that a member of STAFF has come in and openly given permission to challenge your post deletion activities?

Bro I appreciate your appreciation towards my response. But I do think you have to stop attacking UW - it's a misunderstanding/miscommunication that's all I see it.

I respect UW for his leadership in leading this Christianity thread; not everyone would devote so much time to do this as ministry for God. I also believe he is a true and faithful Christian and servant for God.

So just stop using "attacking/rude" words and communicate nicely will you?

Yes the trail of my response to all the crap I received in return. Yes its all there. What ive said from the start I have maintained. Nothing to hide and surely nothing to run away from.

Ure the only coward here who resorted to deleting posts, reporting me to MODS to try and get me banned and even messaging certain members here asking for backup.

All of which BACKFIRED RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!

The attacks will stop when his attacks stop. He started this mess by judging me with the post which I referenced earlier. He asked for war and he will get war. I changed my tone in response to some of the other forumers but now ive gone back into attack mode. This will continue against UW.

And stop talking to me about his leadership or whatever crap. Even Cult Leaders LEAD and are devoted.

Deleting posts to stop a fight?? Are u that stupid or do you think we are that naïve? You deleted because I started thrashing you and you lost face.

Yes let it remain because today ppl are able to see both sides of me. The side that responds in a calm manner to others and the super hostile mode I go into when dealing with YOU.

Bro, I know what im saying. Just cuz he didn't message you doesn't mean he didn't msg anybody else. Ive been in LYN long enough to be able to get information.

If standing up to UW is rude then so be it. You are free to call me names as u wish. You can see how my tone has changed the moment he came in this morning.

I HAVE POSTED IT ABOVE! START READING AND STOP TRYING TO COVER UP YOUR OWN FAULTS! COWARD!

No problem. I cannot just watch a faithful servant of God be attacked injusticely and not do anything.

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That's the problem with Christians. They always think with the siege mentality like the Malays in our country. Always so damn worried about giving simple answers.

I asked a simple question and I expected a simple answer. There is no question about my intention, my purpose, my hidden agenda or whatever.

Don't dramatize simple questions.

Well you have to define what is a Christian?

What is your understanding of it before we can answer yes or no.

Problem of generalization from non believers can lead to error in understanding.

Right we know UW don't agree with our views regarding Prosperity Gospel. But we don't yell at him and cuss words like

#STUPID
#FOOL
#RETARD
#LOSER
#COWARD

THAT IS YOU JUDGING! You could have easily asked me if I was a Christian or not but you chose to JUDGE and ASSUME that I wasn't based on your warped narrow mindset.

I say we because I also accept part blame and correction as being part of this Christian faith. I don't segregate myself and plant myself on a pedestal and JUDGE others.

Ok noted.

I've shared my views on what I believe in my earlier post today. The longest one. 11 points. If you have the time, feel free to read and share your thoughts. I would certainly like to hear them.

So far only 1 person has commented on that in a mature manner. The other person choose to ignore the message I was trying to convey.

Tolerating UW for 11 versions of this fellowship is indeed long suffering. If i may say, truly insufferable.

In here, it's either his way or the highway.

That's why my brother prophetjul and I, no longer visit this thread. All for the sake of maintaining the peace in this 'sanctuary'.

Shalom

Wow UW, I didn't know you got so many admirers, even ThePope is here.

#POPE TOMATO SAUCE

Isn't this the Basic Tenet of Christianity?

1. Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal salvation with God the father
2. We are saved by grace through faith - not by works
3. Jesus Christ is the Son of God
4. The Incarnation of Jesus Christ
5. The Bodily Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the grave
6. The Ascension of Jesus Christ
7. The Doctrine of the Trinity
8. The Holy Bible is the inspired and infallible word of God
9. We are baptized with the Holy Spirit at the moment of salvation
10. Regeneration by the Holy Spirit
11. The Doctrine of Hell
12. The second coming of Jesus Christ

Though I'm not sure of Point 10. What does it mean?

If you notice who's been commenting on this thread, you'll know this thread is under close scrutiny by a bunch of atheist trolls. You come in firing questions and holding a possibly controversial view like this, you looked even to me as if you were one of them. As it is your fight with UW has indeed drawn the scumbags in.

unknown warrior and I don't share the same view on many things, but he is the Thread Starter and does us all a service administrating this little sanctuary in LYN. 1 way or another he is vaguely some kind of leader and knowing what that means for Christians, for that he ought to receive some due benefit of the doubt, even if not respect exactly. Do try to be nice to him.

Meanwhile in the interests of peace I do ask that you consider shelving the fight with UW or at least taking it to PM. Something that I think, unknown warrior, you should have done long before this.
1) yes
2) hmm can count Holy Spirit too, okay
3) okay
4) okay
5) okay
6) sure
7) nonetheless, do not forsake the gathering of the saints
8) NO. subject to belief in a divine Jesus as the Saviour who died for our sins and rose again
9) doesn't make him saved. sorry.
10) refer caveats 8 and 9
11) refer caveat 8.

If you had started with this list from your first or second post, it would have saved you and everyone a lot of aggravation.

YOU just listen to yourself.

When more than one /k disagree with your view but shared some of their opinions, it become a conspiracy theory, your mind go on overdrive and you out smart yourself, its a dupe, a bogeyman, monster under the bed, this ONE guy must have created several account to discredit me.

Like I said, YOU AND YOUR EGO.

Take a couple of step back and look at yourself for Pete sake. . .

Its a crime to be new to the forum?

Yes, IF WE ARE THE SAME PERSON, A BIG SHAME ON US BUT IF ITS NOT??????

Respect is earned not demanded neither given FOC.

And I didn't come in 'firing questions'. I just asked a simple question and a bunch of so called Christians decided they could play God and pass judgement on me. My intention of asking that first question was to start a MATURE DEBATE but what I did not expect was the JUDGEMENT and FALSE ACCUSATIONS that came after that.

Whether or not, there are atheist forumers who are waiting to jump in is again a form of JUDGEMENT which when passed in this manner results in more condemnation of Christianity. We are our worst enemies not atheists and you labelling them SCUMBAGS clearly gives us all a bad name. No different to UW.

We must stop having this siege mentality. This siege mentality comes from arrogance that we assume our view is the ONLY right one. I love getting in mature debates and if you read thru my historical posts on other threads e.g investments, property, cars, etc you will notice that we have had some very good discussions.

Why did it turn out badly here? Yes I had a choice to remain silent or to let go the way I did over the past 2 days. I chose the latter because I wanted to see how UW reacts. And I got my answer. He can be the thread starter or even a Pastor in his Church but in God's eyes he is the SAME as all of us. We do not need to worship him just because he says things that fit in with your beliefs. Yes we can agree to disagree and im fine with that but when someone JUDGES me and calls me an UNBELIEVER just because I contradict his opinion, then you begin a war which I am bound to respond in kind.

Again I made a decision not to continue my fight with UW today which is why when I was asked for clarity by another former, my tone was completely different. But when I was again attacked when UW came back online earlier, I decided to go back into attack mode.

So stop asking me to remain patient and to stop fighting and tell UW that instead. That is if you really want peace on this thread. If not the battles will continue especially if I get any more crap responses from UW.

Hmmm, there you go again. Well, I give you that, you are good at covering yourself. . . . Good earthly logic . . .

"I think you are a thief and if you are not I apologize"

"I think you are a #%^%$^%$# but if you are not I apologize. . ."

You just CANNOT accept the very fact that there are people just disagree with you, don't you?

And I was expecting a more humble apology . . . and who am I kidding anyway. . .