Morning or Night People,

While I was praying early this morning,

I get this inclination in my heart

Perhaps there are some of you who are not close with God.....

is because have never treated God as a Father but treated God as just God.

Think about it.

God Bless.

Good Day fellow believers.

You know God is so good. few years ago, I believed and prayed for something impossible. Impossible because of "limitations" that I have. Don't ask me what it is, I won't tell. For me it's something that I wanted. For you it could something as well.

Now that the "impossible" has been open made possible to me and my family, I get scared of whether I'm able to handle what I prayed for. Nevermind about that, it's another story.

But My point is.


God is still in the answering prayer business.

Don't ever give up believing in God for the prayers that you've prayed.

Don't listen to people who tells you, God only bless you spiritual stuff, bla bla bla, etc etc, Things will only materialize in heaven, etc.

I've heard all the negative stuff before, in forum and in outside life. No wonder God doesn't answer people like that because all they do is complain and criticize to God for not answering them.

Bible says in

John 15:7 (NIV) - If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

Remaining in Christ takes believing (faith). The Lord has been graceful to impart such Faith for me to believe in Him. I give Him the Glory.

You can ask God to impart Faith into you as well. Don't complain when you don't get what you want. God has his timing. In the waiting period, learn to have the right attitude and the RIGHT FAITH. Don't be negative, don't be bitter. Don't mistreat other people.

Such attitude and faith pleases God. I said..it please God, that your undying faith keeps you in good perspective of life.

This is my testimony.

God Bless.

Why Grace Matter!

John 1:17 (NIV) - For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Years ago, When I read the passage (1 Chronicles 21) where King David took consensus of his army....I didn't understand why just counting his army was considered a sin against God.

When David was a boy, He defeated Goliath because his eyes was on God, implying his dependencies on the Lord. It was never the slingshot that killed Goliath. It was the divine power that drove that stone. If you study his early years, everything David, did, his heart was always on God.

Many years past, when king David took consensus on his army, implying his dependencies has changed, he now bank his strength on the size of his army, implying strength in the Man. That was the Sin.

Throughout the Bible, you can see the consistency, God always wanted his people to look to Him for dependency. Do not for a moment think that God wants this because he's a megalomaniac. No, If you have spiritual maturity to see this, God wants this because it's always for our own good. Whenever Man looks away from God, things always fall apart. It was true back then, it is still true even now.

Today we have hard preaching on obedience to God. Now I'm not downplaying this as being unimportant..but behind the essence of such focus can lead to dependencies to What we do. This is potentially the same problem that besets King David when He took the census, the focus can change.

Look at the passage between 2 Man. Study Luke 18:9-14 and let me know if what I say is correct. One who depend on all that he did (typifying the parable of young rich ruler) and another one who could NOT even look to Heaven, Signifying He makes rubbish of all that he know or does. And God said this one is justified rather than the one who did everything adhering to God's Law. Yes study it, the one who said He's not like the robbers, the evildoers means He's practically obeying and adhering to the 10 commandments and yet God rejects this person justification. Irony isn't it?

Well you can tell me that, this will not be a problem because we need to look to the Holy Spirit for the enabling and the strength, hence we look to God. The problem is not this but the consciousness. The never ending consciousness of whether we have obey enough or have done enough.

Try to understand the Heart of God. Remember the passage of the sheep and goat where Jesus commended the righteous...and the servants answered, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?" (Matthew 25:37). They were not even conscious of when and what they did. And these are ones whom Jesus said "Come take your inheritance, the kingdom!

What is the secret of these group of Christians? The answer is Faith and Grace. Why? Because it takes Faith to look to God and it takes dependency on Grace to not count and neither depend on our obedience or performance. Grace means unearned, unmerited. The Antithesis are opposite of each other. We cannot have both and say our obedience matter and yet subscribe to Grace.

Decide today which you want to be under. Under the covenant of Grace which Jesus says Come take your inheritance, the kingdom! or Covenant of Law where people end up saying "Lord have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? (Emphasis is on "doing") And Jesus says, Depart from me, I never knew you.

God Bless.

Can...after let me settle all my things first.

Thinking is one thing..have you prayed about this?

VERSE I

IF LAST NIGHT WAS CRAZY
WHAT YOU SAID TODAY
SHAKES ME
HOW CAN YOU LIKE FAKE IT
AND NOT GET ALL JADED
TRIPS ME OUT MAN
BUT I’M HERE FOR YOU
AFTER LONG NIGHTS YOU”RE TALKING
SPIRITUAL
I’M WAITING FOR A MIRACLE
CRYING IN MY ARMS
AND THE DJ’S OUT OF SONGS
DRIVE YOU TO YOUR MOMS
I’M TRYING TO STAY CALM

THINKING OF A VERSE
OR THE WORDS I COULD SAY
BUT I TURN ON THE RADIO
AND TRY TO PLAY IT SAFE

PRE-CHORUS
I USED WALK THIS ROAD ALONE
I USED TO FIGHT WITH STICKS AND STONES
BUT NOW I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE
THIS BATTLES WON ON MY KNEES

CHORUS
I PRAY
EVEN WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT
AND THE DARKEST CLOUD
TRIES TO HOLD ME DOWN
I PRAY
EVEN WHEN I DON’T KNOW WHY
AND MY HANDS FEEL TIED
I’M AFRAID AT NIGHT
I PRAY
PRAYING FOR THE SON
PRAYING TO THE ONE
PRAYING WON’T YOU COME
I PRAY
I’M NOT GIVING UP
NO
I PRAY

VERSE II

I’M NOT SLEEPING
NOT DREAMING
START WEEPING
VOICES IN MY HEAD
GOT ME KNEELING BY THE BED
FLIPPING THROUGH PAGES
THINKING HOW YOU FAINTED
GOD SEND AN ANGEL
FOREVER ARE YOU FAITHFUL
LET HIM FIND GRACE
FIND HIS WAY
TO SEE YOUR FACE
LET HIM COME ALIVE
BE HEALED AND NOT DIE

I’M STANDING IN FAITH
IN THE POWER OF YOUR NAME

NO ONE EVERS TOO FAR GONE
THEY CAN CHANGE

PRE-CHORUS

I USED WALK THIS ROAD ALONE
I USED TO FIGHT WITH STICKS AND STONES
BUT NOW I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE
THIS BATTLES WON ON MY KNEES

CHORUS

I PRAY
EVEN WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT
AND THE DARKEST CLOUD
TRIES TO HOLD ME DOWN
I PRAY
EVEN WHEN I DON’T KNOW WHY
AND MY HANDS FEEL TIED
I’M AFRAID AT NIGHT
I PRAY
PRAYING FOR THE SON
PRAYING TO THE ONE
PRAYING WON’T YOU COME
I PRAY
I’M NOT GIVING UP
NO
I PRAY

VERSE III
7 MONTHS OF PASSED
I GOT A CALL FROM DAD
HE SAID YOUR DOING FINE
AND GOT A STABLE 9 TO 5
I HEARD YOUR IN CHURCH
AND MET A GIRL AT WORK
I KNEW YOU’D TURN AROUND
SOMETIMES I HAD MY DOUBTS
DANG I’M SO PROUD
IF ONLY MOM COULD SEE YOU NOW
I’M WIPING MY TEARS
CAUSE I KNOW GOD HEARS
EVERY PRAYER IN FAITH
IT’S THE MERCY & GRACE
I KNOW OUR LEGACY WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

CHORUS
I PRAY
EVEN WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT
AND THE DARKEST CLOUD
TRIES TO HOLD ME DOWN
I PRAY
EVEN WHEN I DON’T KNOW WHY
AND MY HANDS FEEL TIED
I’M AFRAID AT NIGHT
I PRAY
PRAYING FOR THE SON
PRAYING TO THE ONE
PRAYING WON’T YOU COME
I PRAY
I’M NOT GIVING UP
NO
I PRAY

Why Grace Matters Part 2


John 1:17 (NIV) - For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Good Day Fellow Believers of Christ. Please Read this devotion, it is very important.

Do you know why Grace Matters? In John 1:17, it says the Law came through Moses by GRACE and Truth came by Jesus Christ.

The Law came through God's servant BUT GRACE and Truth came by the Son of God. There are 2 different distinction here. One is given to a servant And One is given through the Son.
Who is Higher and Which one is more up close and personal? Stone tablets or the Son of God?

Why Did God made this distinction in John 1:17?

The Bible says in
Galatians 4:30 (NIv) - But what does Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."

God is very serious with this. If you want to subscribe to the Law, you will never share in the inheritance of God, Yes it's that serious!

Unbeknown to some people...Our Gospel is called the Gospel of God's Grace.

Here is the supporting verse.

Acts 20:24 (NIV) - However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me--the task of testifying to the good news of God's grace.

The word good news = Gospel. In the original Greek it is "euangelion" which means Gospel.

If Grace is the Gospel, then we need all the more to expound and put Grace as the very first fore Front, not the Law

Why? I'll tell you why. Because the Devil have no hold and power towards Christians who uphold the Grace of God. How?

See, if you put yourself under Law, meaning that you either merit or demerit yourself by what you do, the devil can easily take legal claims on your effort whenever you fail. Why? Because Satan is called "accuser of the brethren". (Revelation 12:10). The Word Accuser there in the Greek means a persecutor like a lawyer. Law is outside of the blood of Christ. What do I mean? The Blood of Christ paid our Sins. The Law demands payment. Anyone who puts himself under Law, can comes under legal persecution of the devil.

People who puts themselves under the Blood of Christ which was given by Grace (unearned) is justified by God Himself and THUS the devil has no Say! Why? Because when there is NO EFFORT of meriting or demerit, what can the Devil persecute with?

That is why the Devil Fights tooth & nail to malign GRACE! He will tell you, Grace is not everything, you need Law to make it look and sound Religiously Holistic. Why does he do that? Because when law is involved, the devil can get involved. Without the Law, he has nothing to attack you with. I hope this revelation open up your eyes to see how good God is and how smart God is to bring in Grace and Truth via Jesus Christ to defang the devil. You need to be under Grace 100% without even 1% of the Law.

How do we apply this in practical christianity? Live Life and Breath easy! Keep your eyes on Christ as the author and finisher of your Faith, meaning from beginning to end, it's all on Christ. So when and if you failed and sin....consider the Fact that what you do or don't do, does not matter anymore with regards to justification for Salvation. It is the work of Christ, no more yours. and what is the work of Christ that matter to God? His Death on the cross and the Resurrection. That is all THAT MATTERS to Salvation!

What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? That will be answered in Part 3 of this series. Stay tune.

God Bless

Why Grace Matters Part 3

John 1:17 (NIV) - For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Do you know the apostle Paul was a very strong preacher of God's Grace? He wrote most of the New Testament expounding Grace so much, that people of his days misunderstood Him and accuse Him of preaching lopsided Grace or Heresy Grace...People actually accuse him of "Does it mean we can sin as we like under Grace" Don't believe me?

Look at this verse

Romans 6:1 (NIV) - What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

Paul was quoting 3rd party accusation levelled against Him. Paul never said that we should go on Sinning so that Grace may increase but He was indeed preaching radical Grace Where IF and When we Fail..Grace abounded More. People misunderstood Him there and accuse Him of this. The context came from an earlier verse before Romans 6:1.

Romans 5:20 (NIV) - The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,

Here is something that is hardly preached in Church. The Law was brought in so that the trespass might increase.....AND we have Churches today still preaching Law appealing to Christian that we must obey God, must Love God with all our heart, all our soul and mind, must live righteously, don't break any of the 10 commandments exacting a "put demand on Man ministry" without realizing they are preaching the Law which is a death ministry.

I challenge you. Can any of you fulfill any of those without Fail? I can safely say, No One can.

Now don't misunderstand me, neither am I appealing to you to break any of this. See the similar problem? I'm appealing to get your focus right, it can NEVER be on the laws of God but in the Son of God who is Grace and Truth as in the theme verse of today's devotion.

BTW Did I conjure up to equate Law as "death ministry"? No Read 2 Corinthians 3:7. I don't know if this has actually sink in yet. The term Ministry of Death? It should alarm you if you understand it.

The Laws of God exacts and demands Man to measure Up. Same thing when Jesus said unless your righteousness surpasses the pharisee and the teachers, you shall by no means enter in Heaven. Upon first reading of what Jesus says, I'm very sure everyone would get worried whether he/she is able to measure up. No, that wasn't Jesus's point. If anyone has spiritual understanding, What Romans 5:20 is saying and in the context of what Jesus was appealing to, the purpose of God's divine Law is to bring Man to end of Himself, meaning.....The More He tries to adhere to the Law, the More He'll end up sinning. Am I preaching heresy? No, This is what Romans 5:20 says.

Why is that? Why did God gave the Law if it's only sole purpose to cause more tresspasses instead of righteoueness?

The purpose is to drive you to your knees to look to Christ as your Saviour. There is no such thing as Jesus being our saviour only to the point of your confession then you need to put in your effort to adhere to God's Law as "working out your Salvation", implying God's Grace plus your effort is going to get you to Heaven. That's Man's own interpretation of the Bible and is Heresy and is from the pit of hell. The Devil would definitely wants law to come back into the Christian Life..it is to his advantage not yours. I've outlined that in part 2 of this devotion.

Paul expounded the works of the Law perfectly in Romans 7 where it says...the good I want to do, i do not, the evil I don't want to do..I end up doing. Whether you like it or not, whenever anyone tries to adhere to God's Law, this is what it does, whether you're a Christian or a non believer. It is a right reaction then in verse Romans 7:24...What a wretched man I am..who will save me then...

What then is the answer? The answer is found in Romans 5:17.

For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

The only way for a Christian to live a victorious Life is to receive these 2 gifts.

1. Abundance of God's grace, not once in awhile or when as needed but ABUNDANT! ABUNDANT means what? Think about it.
2. The Gift of Righteousness, I said, this is a GIFT....not your adhering to God's Law, not your effort. GIFT are given Free without payment.


These 2 gifts = Jesus Christ. He is Grace and He is our Righteousness, not our own righteousness. With that being said; Jesus is our Saviour everyday. I said..Jesus is our Saviour everyday. Why? Because there is no such thing as He is a Saviour only in the point of our failures then we need to carry our cross (that's another message) everyday..no..but simply because our obedience to God's Law has zero value in qualifying you in Salvation.

That is why Grace Matters. We can only reign in the soil of God's Grace. Unless you embrace Grace and accept the Fact that the Law has died and have been nullified by Christ at the cross, you can never really Reign. Consider the effect of the Law has been absolved and the imputation of Sin condemnation absolved. That will be in Part 4 of this series.

God Bless.

Welcome candyc, latest fellow believer in /k/.

Info updated in 1st page.

Welcome.

Where is your Church? in KL or PJ?

are you a programmer?

Siapa mau pergi...

That's good.

Welcome back Joseph.

Glad to see more Christians in this forum.

Actually we have quite a number spread across the forum.

Well I mean there are quite a number of Christians in this forum.

Oh okay, Well hope you do come back on track.

Good for you man.

Israel have a sovereign right to their land no matter what.... the argument. All creation belongs to God, if he wants to give that piece of Land to the Israelites, that is His sovereign Right.
If anyone comes against Israel to remove that, they will have to contend with God Almighty.

If they wanted to help, they should help but not politicize Israel Land.



The best is always to refer how Jesus addresses God. He is the Son of God after all.

Well you can assured that Jesus called God "Abba" many times, never "emm" which is Aramaic for mother. "Abba" is Father in English. You can also interchange that with "Papa"
Of course God is not strictly a Male Gender as in Human context but Jesus always taught God to be a Father context.

I give you 1 good example.

The Story of the Prodigal Son.

Who was the Head of that House? The Father.

And many times Jesus tell the people "YOUR FATHER in Heaven" or Our Father in Heaven.

http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=your+Father+in+Heaven

The reference is always "your" Father, Never once "your" Mother. I emphasize on the word "your" because Jesus wants us know God is Ours and is personal Father God.

It is Safe to go with the Bible, never with our own self rationalization.

Would I call it heretical to call God a Mother God, well I've learn in the course of time, whoever the preacher is, whatever that is taught, we can learn to ignore part of the teaching if it contradicts the Bible, no need to get fearfully upset or paranoid about the preacher.

Hence the reason, you really need to know your Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Try to complete the entire chapters at least once.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 7 2016, 09:43 AM

Whoa Whoa Chill guys.

As my home internet is slow, let me watch on monday....n try to understand what beta tegus is trying to say.

In the mean time relax, don't get so offended.

It's okay..I still want to see it.

Don't think I will disappointed in predicting how secular world view about God and Christianity.

Beta Tegus

I've seen the video but that is not the truth.

People who don't believe and neither subscribe to Him will not know the works and involvement of God in this world, hence they will say God has disappeared.

but we Christians do, we know his involvement is real and have never doubted He existed.

And the Church is God's idea. It's never as implied in the video that "man" is the one who build the Church for God as if to cry out in hopeless trying to reach out to Him.

God has never disappear for thousands of years. He has always been in contact with the people here on earth through the Church.

but problem is, it is the world who have always rejected Christians when we approach them sharing gospel saying we're trying to do this and that and yet complain Where is God.

OH THE HUGE IRONY!