QUOTE(pehkay @ Sep 20 2016, 12:16 PM)
Unfortunately yes and is very common in principle....

[not addressing the critics or attacks] ....
But it is not because God does not give us revelation (as He is ever ready to), rather, our natural concepts hinders us from receiving revelation.
For example, it so easy for us to listen to teachings about the cross and about "being broken"? Why is it easy? It is because these things have existed in our concepts for a long time, and as a result, we do not need revelation regarding them.
If you talk to monks and nuns about asceticism, they do not need any revelation and can understand immediately. If you speak to the Hindus about sufferings, they do not need revelation either. They immediately will have a clear understanding of self-mortification the moment you speak about it. When you speak to the followers of Confucius about seeking perfection in ethical pursuits or about character cultivation, you do not need to say too much to enable them to understand what you are saying because these things are already in them.
When we speak concerning real spiritual things, however, we really need revelation. Without revelation it is difficult for us to understand them, and we immediately deviate from their original meaning.
If someone were to cover me with a big piece of cloth, and if I were to stand in front of you, you would see only a tall heap and would wonder what it was. You will feel puzzled and kept guessing. If the sheet were removed, you would still need light to see what was there. To remove the sheet is to unveil, to reveal; however, if there is no light and it is still dark, one still cannot see. Moreover, even if there is light, one who is blind still will not be able to see.
Revelation plus light and sight enable a person to see a view. This is a vision.For example, Ephesians is altogether a book of revelation, but I can assure you that almost one hundred out of one hundred who read it do not see the revelations in it. What everyone sees is: Husbands, love your wives; wives, be subject to your husbands; children, honor your father and mother; and parents, do not provoke your children to anger. These items are just like flypaper. When you read them, you get stuck to them. Actually, people already teach these things even if they have not read about them. Yet regardless of how many times they read chapter one concerning the fullness of Christ, the unsearchable riches of Christ and the power of His resurrection, the divine dispensing of the Triune God, they cannot see it nor hear it. They don't even care

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thank you bro for your input.
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Sep 21 2016, 09:11 PM)
Ok we established that we're moving away from the darkness.
Take up position as in where? Church? Mission trip?
Between my fitness certification and household duties, I just don't have the time (yet).

Aih

no dear sis,
Here is where most christians get confuse and don't really get it.
You have
already been moved from the dominion of darkness to Light.
Your Salvation and state of righteousness is
not a process. It's a done deal sealed by our Lord Jesus Christ. These 2 are Gifts given to you. You know this particular gifts are not given to you depending on how obedient you are to God or depending on how much you progress in the process of you moving away from darkness to light.
It's given to you straight away unqualified because Jesus qualified God's Law requirement at the cross. Your Faith in Christ, credits all that to you as if..............you (so to speak) qualify in acts of obedience. You understand?
You may say, your character and conduct doesn't match. Your character and conduct cannot be the qualifying factor!
Sure the change of your character needs time, but that CAN NEVER BE the qualifying factor.
Satan ALWAYS! confound and confuse believers with this matter; our character and conduct reflecting our state of righteousness.
Do you understand all this?
QUOTE(tinarhian @ Sep 21 2016, 09:21 PM)
Plus there are miracles in which scientists can't even fathom.
But wait for it...atheists will claimed that the human mind does not have the capacity to conjure such thought.

These days I don't care what the atheist has to say with regards to science or enforcing what they think is right about Life.
To me the word of God is the unchanging Truth and prevails throughout generations, manifesting itself in reality and life.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 22 2016, 08:32 AM