Simple. Mine was actually a reflection of my own life. It's a personal experience.

How on earth this is "reflecting pride"?

But it does not reach out to others who did not already understand atheism. That's the difference.

The reason why the AMA has to be out from the LYN Official Atheist & Agnostic thread was because it allows an avenue to people who are not atheist in order to understand what would make me, an ex-Christian to leave my religion to be an atheists.

And no, it's not about pride as you've put it. It's really for a cause, and that cause is simply a cause for reason and rationality.

Listen. The reason why I ask for your help and everyone else, while you may disagree with my views on religion, because I sincerely think it is important to let people know and at least to ask questions in order to let them find out and ask the questions they wanted on an atheist for the times they haven't tried asking. If anything, I am advocating for the freedom of belief and the freedom of disbelieve, and I thought I could find it here in the Chrsitian Lounge, due to my previous faith about Christians being not only the helpful folk, but the folks who are willing to be fair.

But if your answer is still no, then I was wrong about the last thing I thought I knew about being Christians, and that is the idea that Christians will never force people to join their religion and will also allow others to think for themselves so that what they believe or disbelieve anything blindly.

Still, after reflecting clearly, it was obvious why the moderators would take down my thread. I don't think most lowyat forummers are mature enough to open their minds to understand other world views, so whenever someone is rather forward about something new, I suppose that they will be threatened by their own "sensitivities" and decided that I am "dangerous" or something.

Thank you for showing the hospitality of Christians. I am now more convinced on why I left the religion.

And don't say "I'll pray for you", because I will reply "I'll think for you".

Goodbye.

P.S. I'm sure I will most likely be talked about in the future in this thread, but should you do not do so via PM with each other, well, please don't blame me if I will reply in accordance to it whenever it comes to any misconceptions.
No, it just means there has to be a definite clue, consistency, and evidence to be able to see the answer in order to be certain that prayer works or not.
You might need to get yourself a dictionary. I'll repeat it again:

No, it just means there has to be a definite clue, consistency, and evidence to be able to see the answer in order to be certain that prayer works or not.

Keyword: EVIDENCE. Without EVIDENCE, there's no definite way to tell if a prayer works.

You miss my point, again. The key phrase is "freedom to choose".

Here's a difference. If you were to come into the LYN Official Atheist & Agnostic thread, you may ask any questions without any fear of retribution (unlike religion and from religious zealots), aside from the reasoning, science, rationality, and logic we will apply in the answers and questioning.

Thank you for your time. I don't want to stay here for too long lest another religious zealot decided to report that I'm presumably "attacking" Christianity again.
Been there, done that. Thank you for your time. I don't want to stay here for too long lest another religious zealot decided to report that I'm presumably "attacking" Christianity again.

When I was still a Christian, I understand that God gave us free will for a reason, so that we are not just programmed beings forced to choose only the path of good.

This is why I thought Christians will understand the IMPORTANCE of free will. By not allowing free will to flourish, i.e. shutting down and refusing help in response to all avenues that provide the exercise of free will would be going everything that is why god gave us free will as human beings in the first place.

He truly misunderstand the free will. He listen things always partially and blocking the other contents THAT HE DISLIKE. Now blaming the Christianity for this. He only argue his word is right and never choose to understand what other said, this is all from what he replied earlier so no doubt he misunderstand all words from his Church while he was a Christian.

He THINK choosing his free will don't have to bear the consequences. 

This type of attitude, will have a REAL TRUE hard time in life. Never try to stand on other perspective to see YET he THINK he did.

Popcorn enjoyment aside, this is an interesting form of attack.

I have never encountered someone who literally asks for your help to attack yourself... well, not this brazenly anyway.

Doubtless then that he will include it in his future "testimony" that Christians are unhelpful, suitably edited of course.

Whoof.

Seriously? Are you really asking for help? Its more like you want to seek attention for the wrong reasons. Plus, your "unanswered prayers" made you bitter towards God.

There are people out there geniunely seeking for God and that's not wrong at all. But all you want to do is to dismiss the existence of God because of your petty issues in life.

I've been through the same experience like you. Unlike you, I don't become bitter and keep all these hatred bottled up inside. Instead I seek answers and read stuffs about religion.

Hopefully you'll find what you want to seek in life. Whatever rocks your boat dude.
Of course not. I should have rephrase my statement. Germans don't care whether you believe (or don't believe) in anything.

Well the dude is probably one lonely fella who can't fathom the existence of the universe. Another Taliban in the making perhaps. 

Hi sorry.  Out of topic but I don't really know where else to ask.

Does anyone here have any experience in removing Chinese taoist idols from house? I want to know what's the proper Christian way to do it. 

The idols are my dad's. He's the only non believer in our family. We are moving to a new house so according to my mom she said a pastor can remove it by burning or breaking it?  Is that true? 
But according to my Chinese friends they say if by cultural believes, we have to give it back to a temple?

Need some advice on this. Thanks in advance ya

Erm.. I don't really think so.. but my mom is very keen to do it behind his back. What should I do ?
In actual fact can pastors break it?

Thanks so much. I know what to do now. I'll go have a talk with my mom later. Yes will continue to pray. At least he is willing for it to be returned to the temple. That's a huge step for a devout taoist.
Thanks again unknown warrior. God bless

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Whoa, such a long and stressful debate many people had with Hoka Nobasho going on in this thread. I guess in our Relationship with God, our FAITH in Him is the most important, no matter what happens, good or bad. Things happen to you, but have Faith God is with you always. We are having a relationship with HIM, and faith depends on how we cultivate our relationship with HIM, as we do with our friends, parents, grandparents, people around us. This is what makes Christianity different than others, not a just a RELIGION. If we start demanding thing from them, meaning we're taking HIM for granted, treating him nothing more than a Deity, Idol, like vending machine, put in coin (Serving, Read the bible religiously, Tithe) , then get something in return definitely. We forgot we are HIS creation, He is GOD. What position are we in to demand and test our Creator.

I totally disagree with the last statement regarding Evidence of answered prayer. IMO, prayer answered depends on how we see things, what we ask for, and whether GOD allows it. What we want might not be what GOD wants us to have. God has a plan for all of us. If we test Prayer to God with scientific means, hypothesis, then we are trying to comprehend God.

I think Hoka Nobasho is just upset his thread on lowyat was deleted, and trying to understand what is the reason of that happening.

First time here, first post, hope you all welcome me.  God Bless all. I'm still a humble believer still learning to trust in God more.

I know. Just felt like sharing. Apologies if I offended anyone for bringing him up again.