QUOTE(shioks @ Jul 6 2016, 06:08 PM)
ngoh sek man fan.LYN Christian Fellowship V11 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
LYN Christian Fellowship V11 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
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Jul 7 2016, 06:51 PM
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Jul 11 2016, 10:36 PM
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Jul 12 2016, 10:45 PM
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Didn't Paul already answered this in Ephesians 2:8-9?
Paul also said that God's gift is completely free. Then why (Catholics) must add "works" ? Most of the man-made tradition based upon works. The Bible is clear that salvation does not come by works. |
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Jul 12 2016, 10:54 PM
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C.H. Spurgeon
QUOTE I ask any saved man to look back upon his own conversion, and explain how it came about. You turned to Christ, and believed in his name: these were your own acts and deeds. But what caused you thus to turn? What sacred force was that which turned you from sin to righteousness? Do you attribute this singular renewal to the existence of a something better in you than has been yet discovered in your unconverted neighbour? No, you confess that you might have been what he now is if it had not been that there was a potent something which touched the spring of your will, enlightened your understanding, and guided you to the foot of the cross. Gratefully we confess the fact; it must be so. Salvation by grace, through faith, is not of ourselves, and none of us would dream of taking any honour to ourselves from our conversion, or from any gracious effect which has flowed from the first divine cause. |
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Jul 12 2016, 10:56 PM
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Jul 12 2016, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 12 2016, 11:06 PM) It's in the verse Oh...when I read NIV version, they used "deed" instead of "works".. James 2:20 (KJV) - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? There are some Christians in the protestant denomination who believe that one of the sure sign you are saved, you have to produced Holy Life Results or Fruits & they will quote this verse. Holy life fruits as in the 9 fruits of the Spirit? |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 12 2016, 11:23 PM) Deeds..Works...the easiest to understand is Man's Effort/Performance. I think The Bible clearly stated that man's works is never enough.Yes and thus with that verse...So Grace alone is not enough. Something along that line. If Man works is enough to enter Heaven or where ever people goes nowadays, then we do not need God, something which is pervalent in other religions. |
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jul 12 2016, 07:41 AM) I remember this verse - 1 Corinthians 10:13 NIV - No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted,he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. |
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Jul 12 2016, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 12 2016, 11:37 PM) Actually it has more to do with misinterpretation of James 2. This Faith without Works is dead is justification before Man, not God. Before God, the only justification God accepts is Faith and not works. I see. Meaning to say that some Christians talked but are not doing anything. That is why the example; James 2:14-17 14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. The focus is horizontal..Man to Man. There's a lot of misinterpretation in The Bible among Christians and atheists. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 12 2016, 11:52 PM) There's also a lot of misunderstanding about the status of a Christian's Righteousness. As in Romans 3:20?There are some who equate a Christian's Righteousness is interrelated with his actions. That is erroneous. Paul also explained rightenousness in Books of Romans. |
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Jul 13 2016, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 13 2016, 12:04 AM) Yes In the New Covenant, our Righteousness comes as a gift, not works therefore even when a Christian missed the Mark, His Righteousness status is not changed. I'm sure you are familiar with Book of Romans. This excerpt taken from bible summary of Book of Romans.There are many..I mean many Christians who have yet to understand this. If your righteousness status does not change, you cannot lose your Salvation by your works. QUOTE Our natural inclination to sin separates us from God. We cannot make ourselves right or earn salvation on our own. In his loving kindness, God provided a way to redeem us through his Son Jesus Christ, who paid our sin-debt through his sacrificial death. By accepting Christ as Savior and believing in his atoning work, we are saved. Jesus' righteousness is credited to us. The Holy Spirit works in us to help us avoid sin and grow in holiness. God's grace, not keeping the law, makes us acceptable. God's plan is just and fair. Both Jews and Gentiles are eligible to come to Christ and receive salvation. Sincere service to Christ is an appropriate way to express our gratitude to God for his gift of salvation. When we work together with other members of the body of Christ, the church, we build each other up and give honor and glory to God. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 13 2016, 12:24 AM) Actually there are many treasures of the Bible that I want to share..one of them is this. That's why God called for a certain someone to preach the Word. to guide noobies like us. The Work of the Holy Spirit. Some Christians say the Holy Spirit Convict believers of Sin. But Scripture says otherwise. I say the HS convicts the believer more of righteousness as in this verse. John 16 7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned. He will convict unbelievers of sin..because they don't believe in Jesus. The word World...denotes people who are not saved. He will convict believers of Righteousness because Jesus is now with the Father. This is only for believers of Christ. Why does the HS convicts of righteousness? Because the devil and legalistic people wants to condemn you through misinterpretation of Bible. I think many are called but few are chosen. hehe... |
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For those who have married, how do you guys cope with the wedding plans, guests lists and seating arrangements, etc?
I just want to hear some tips. FYI, I have my own wedding planner. |
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Must be another celebrity death hoax story. Read about it alot in California.
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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Jul 16 2016, 12:10 PM) As what we feel might not be real even we feel that are real. Only way is holy spirit that dwell in us can assist to identify. Thats why have to stay close to God. Only way is to communicate with God. One of it is reading bible, as its God's word. Time will tell as everyone was given gifts from god. What if NOT everyone is given gifts from God? |
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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Jul 18 2016, 08:21 AM) There is no if not. You living with a purpose.. The only possibility is either they can receive it o not. Some do receive but do not practise, some practising it but ain't know is a gift or don know how to use or only know how to use it at certain %. Yes I agree. Speaking of fruits of the Spirit, the verse of Matthew 7:16-20 pop in my mind.The fruits of Holy Spirit. If I have to list out my fruit of the Spirit, then I have many. hehe... love - joy - peace - patience - kindness - goodness - faithfulness - gentleness - self-control - |
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De_Luffy, thank you for your congratulatory message. But babe, I'm not married yet. hehe...
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