I've learned that we don't always have to respond to everyone and anyone. When the time is right, God will bring people whom He has been working on, to you and will give you words and wisdom to dispense to that said person.

It's won't be from you, it will originate from the Holy Spirit in you.

This is how the Kingdom of God works.

Because some pastor lack confidence that the goodness of God (which is also define as Grace) will lead people to repentance.

Because they see people as always not ready for God, living in sinful lifestyle, therefore they have more confidence that fear will lead people to repentance as in the Old Testament way. So they preach hell, doom and gloom or strong obedience to the Law.

The New Testament is the New Covenant in effect. The Old Testament way has been nullified and void at the cross for the believers. And New Testament says it is GRACE that lead people to repentance.

Romans 2:4 (NIV) - Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

Titus 2:11-12 (NIV) - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,

There it is, clear as day.

The point is...preaching hard on the Law (you must love God more! You must obey God's Law!, etc etc) is not going to work for believers because God does not backup on that covenant. There are Christians who doesn't know this.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 20 2016, 11:17 PM

I hardly enter there..what did they say about this anyway?

Actually the richest in meaning of the Hebrew word 'Grace' is חסד cheçedh.

Pronounced as Khased.

you can refer to here.

https://www.studylight.org/language-studies...index.cgi?a=580



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 20 2016, 11:32 PM

It's stem from rationalizing with the logical mind. Naturally that's how it works in the world. Using Fear.

BUT God's way is always mind blowing and different.

They'll say it doesn't make sense and just too good to be true for God's goodness to lead people to repentance because by this they think...why would anyone repent if God keeps on being graceful and forgiving. That is the natural mind thinking.

but they don't understand God's way is far more powerful than Man's way can ever be. Do you know the Law of God in the OT is nothing more than the focus of Man's way?

Thou Shall Not
Thou Shall Not.

Who is that "thou"? Who is the focus there..."thou"???

I rest my case. When it comes to anything to Man, is not going to work. And yet people until today still think they can. The vanity of religion which if you think about it..it's the same for all other religion focuses on Man trying to work their way to God.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 20 2016, 11:42 PM

My only complain on the Catholics, they focus too much on Man, the Saints the Lady this or that, so and so.

They just cannot focus only on God and God alone.

I just don't know why they can't understand this.

I'm not bothered la.

Ephesian 4:11-14 (NIV)

11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.




Notice the focus is on The Knowledge of the Son of God only?..... and not on any saints..the way to recite prayers or whatever rituals there is?

And who is Jesus Christ personified? Answer = (again) GRACE! <-----Look up Hebrews 13:9.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 21 2016, 12:02 AM

The Saints, the Apostle, the Teachers, Evangelist ALL MUST have 1 goal..point people to Jesus Christ, to be united in Faith on this.

Still back to Christ Jesus, his finished Work, the Cross is more than enough, because there is where all our providence lies..Our Healing, Our Prosperity, Our Protection...our everything.

Referring to the saints here on earth.

If Christ has removed our Sins once and and we are made cleaned by his blood, technically we are Holy or Saints if you will.

Amen..Pehkay.



Anyhow, any Christians reading this at this hour, will you go to Church tomorrow..if you haven't been going for the longest time?

The connection to church keeps you reminded.

Being a lone christian...is not God's idea.

Collectively it was the people of Israel.

I know it was moses la but the people of Israel is correct.

"What Scars Are For"

These scars aren’t pretty
But they’re a part of me
And will not ever fade away
These marks tell a story
Of me down in the valley
And how You reached in with Your grace
And healed me

They remind me of Your faithfulness
And all You brought me through
They teach me that my brokenness
Is something You can use
They show me where I’ve been and
That I’m not there any more
That’s what scars, that’s what scars are for
what scars are for

Erase, rewind
Wish I could every time
The hurt, the pain cuts so deep
But when I’m weak You’re strong
And in Your power I can carry on
And my scars say that You won’t ever leave

They remind me of Your faithfulness
And all You brought me through
They teach me that my brokenness
Is something You can use
They show me where I’ve been and
That I’m not there any more
That’s what scars, that’s what scars are for

I see it on the cross
The nails You took for me
Scars can change the world
Scars can set me free

They remind me of Your faithfulness
And all You brought me through
They teach me that my brokenness
Is something You can use
They show me where I’ve been and
That I’m not there any more
That’s what scars, that’s what scars are for
They show me that’s what scars are for
What scars are for
What scars are for

Family is God's idea. Same with the Church. It's his idea, a gathering of believers coming together to worship God.

Meeting regularly with believers is also God's idea because it is encouraging.

This institution can be found in the word of God in Hebrews 10:25.

Why Lone Wolf is a bad idea?


Ecclesiastes 4:12 (NIV) - Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

You can actually pray to God to help you find the right Church.

That's what I did when I was looking for one.

Oh don't worry about that, if the Church has genuine relationship with God, they will notice you and greet you.

Because there are some cults...just be careful, if no one notice you at all or approach you being the first timer....well you can look for another Church.

Either Church is fine.

You can try Methodist if you want then try St Andrews the next time.

It really depends on the Church.

My Church Calvary...for example we take care of 1st visitors, we have a welcome VIP lounge for such guest to explain how and everything about the Church. Then we try to connect you to smaller groups (if you're willing to join) so that you don't feel lost.

Oh..don't worry about that, not all Christians speaks Ang Moh Language you know......... many speak cantonese, mandarin, hakka, Hokkien.....some Tamil...

Just take time to get to know which people you can talk to in the language you're comfortable.

In any Church......every Christians have different level of understanding,what they learn about God....each has different characters...different background...meaning some are mature...some are not.

The mature one will encourage you and try to make you feel at home......so they won't look down on anyone because of speaking problem.

The not so mature ones.....those you can avoid.

Same la...I attend English Service but my close friend we all like Cina Apek one.