Well...I had a rebellious upbringing. My parents would had me in detention most of the time.

I had "minor" issues with church members as well. Nothing that is too complicated nor serious. It seems that Malaysians don't understand my culture. hehe...

How old is your son now? He'll probably grow out of that "phase" later on. Like I did. It's just a phase dude.

Just passed 22nd last year (Nov).

Hopefully (he grow out of that phase) soon.

I am happy for your parent.

Finished catching up. Thanks for sharing your story.
About the role model thing, it acts both ways. Dad was born in quite a chaotic family. Gamblers, gamblers everywhere. Each has wives. But my dad held on to his own. He doesn't wanna be like the rest of the siblings (to be accurate, his sister is also the better of the bunch). So, to each his own I would say. But if we talk about influence, yes, to some extent you do influence your son. But not totally, especially teenagers (who in anecdote belief are more susceptible to peer influence).

Forget about the role model thing, I'm in no position to give you a better advice than the rest of us here. If you don't mind, I will add one more thing: This period of time will pass. Pray hard to God that He will lead him through his journey of self-finding. Who knows, the right church for him might be somewhere else, and he could fit there better? (This happens to me, somehow). I'm always against Christian, to be fair, because of certain individuals around me who happen to be (in my opinion)... ah, spare me the cursing. I learn a lot from their influence (or negatively reacted) by studying through online sources and reading the bible. Ended up having many unanswered questions, but found a church which could open my eyes (or ears) (thank God for so far so good). So, hopefully your son will come across some place where he belongs.

Brother, my own dad is not a good role model but that doesn't mean I can't be one to my own kid.

Haha...I'm just a bit older than your son.

Great parents are priceless in this world. No gold, jewelry, LV bags can substitute that.

But if we talk about influence, yes, to some extent you do influence your son. But not totally, especially teenagers (who in anecdote belief are more susceptible to peer influence).


Honestly, I used to think that way too, i.e. parent's influence on their children. But my life proof its not entirely true. That's just general perception when there's no other explanation to put forth. Or maybe it's just negligible to say the least.

Hello, my point is 'Stop putting the blame on me while turn the other cheek on the obvious'.

Yeah. true.

Anyway, those things happen quite sometime ago. One topic leads to another. .

Anybody else got parents issues here?

True, not all will be saved but MANY will be saved.


??? No.

Discipline us for our own good is not gg.com.

I'm not saying you're the cause that you son decided to leave Church, I'm saying you can be an encouragement for him to go to Church.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 23 2016, 09:07 PM

Thanks for sharing. I may not be of much help, and I'm frank of that. Just that I hope with my minute knowledge I could provide some kind of perspective which could probably be a little helpful to alleviate the issue.

Hmm.. My point is, sometimes the influence is not apparent or rather one of the many factors in play. Unless you totally did not communicate with your son (which I think you did a lot), but the effect isn't what we hoped it would be. Stay strong, and keep finding ways to help him

Everyone has, to a certain degree I guess

How the heck do you split the quotes?

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But why does some refused to be saved?

Yeah dude. Some old religious farts always blamed women. Duh...

Discpline is one thing. Physical abuse is another thing. I always got canned la. GG.com la.

How is that a good thing?!

So what's your issues with your parents?

Just press the +Quote button.

Oh Big Deal, Even I got my own shelling from my own dad even worse at times.

Got thrown even like those WWE.

Press quote and then what? I just select the things that I want to quote la?

Big deal to me. The middle child always get blamed, harrassed, tortured, etc...

WWE? Do you mean WWF? The animal welfare group.

Press the +Quote button of all the split post and it will combine under I post.

WWE = World Wrestling Entertainment

Chill dude.

http://www.worldwildlife.org/



What the heck is World Wrestling Entertainment? MMA better la.

I know WWW, WW3, WWF..

Who the heck watch WWE?

Watch MMA la.

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/8/1/9085319/u...estling-is-fake

Nah that was in the past, I think happened when there are wrestlers before your time like The (younger) Hulk Hogan, King Kong Bundy, Andre the Giant...Macho Man...Jake the rattle snake....to name a few.