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post Apr 13 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(3388 @ Apr 13 2016, 03:41 PM)
Amen. I do believe this is the truth.

It happens to me everytime when I sinned I tell myself " I must repent, otherwise my salvation will be at stake"; and it ends up becoming a "cycle" ie: Sin, remorse, repent, then sin again, remorse, repent - non stop and it's killing me.

To some point, I think the problem which misconception of repentance bring to us is self-righteousness. We "think" we can be righteous by "doing" repentance.

But I believe true freedom in Christ is, when we finally say to God " God help me to turn away from this sin, I CANNOT do it myself", only with this we shall then experience miracle and transformation by the work of God.
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Yes and rest Easy your Salvation is borned by the Blood of the Lamb and not by your Acts of Repentance.

The acts of repentance is always going up and down but it is by no means qualification or disqualification to Salvation. This helps us to understand Hebrews 9:26 better.

That is the Right Doctrinal Exegesis.
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post Apr 13 2016, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Apr 13 2016, 04:13 PM)
With all the talks between denominations, arguments about doctrines, churches against other churches, I could only marvel at the mercy and grace of God, that He made very clearly the only condition to salvation is as depicted in John 14:6.
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post Apr 13 2016, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 05:42 PM)
It seems that we are arguing if we need to repent to receive the salvation, which is by Grace of God.

This is my take.  Christ is the way to the Father.  Salvation is provided for us by God's grace, which he gives in Christ Jesus based on his death, resurrection and continued intercession for us (believers).

I had earlier said this "Our salvation comes as a gift of God's grace, but it can only be appropriated by our response in faith."  What I was trying to say is that we need to response to the gift.  If the gift is there, and we do not response by accepting, how are we to receive the grace?  Didn't you acknowledge you are sinner and accept Jesus Christ as personal savior?  Ain't you repenting and responding?

I have never believed in work to achieve Salvation.  It is a free gift.  Repentance is only once i.e. accept we are the sinners and we need Jesus as our personal savior.  I did not say we need to continue to repent daily for our sins.  The blood of Christ on the cross is sufficient.  It is finished as said by Jesus.

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 06:49 PM)
Just to add, Book of Ephesians 2:8-9 says "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no once can boast."

In Acts 2:38, "Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.  And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."  With this call comes the work of the Holy Spirit within a person, giving him or her the power and ability to respond to God. smile.gif

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Okay lah Okay lah. thumbup.gif




Anyway 3388 Hit it on the dot about Salvation with his post below.


QUOTE(3388 @ Apr 13 2016, 03:41 PM)
Amen. I do believe this is the truth.

It happens to me everytime when I sinned I tell myself " I must repent, otherwise my salvation will be at stake"; and it ends up becoming a "cycle" ie: Sin, remorse, repent, then sin again, remorse, repent - non stop and it's killing me.

To some point, I think the problem which misconception of repentance bring to us is self-righteousness. We "think" we can be righteous by "doing" repentance.

But I believe true freedom in Christ is, when we finally say to God " God help me to turn away from this sin, I CANNOT do it myself", only with this we shall then experience miracle and transformation by the work of God.
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Okay, I'm glad we're moving forward in our spiritual understanding of the Bible, next step is to share more devotional to reinforce Faith in Christ for God's Kingdom to move on.

With that being said, guys watch out & keep praying for protection upon your life (& your family) and for our fellowship in this thread, very sure the enemy is reading this and also planning the next attack to demotivate us in the spirit and our walk with our Lord Jesus.






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post Apr 13 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Apr 13 2016, 07:42 PM)
Group hug? laugh.gif
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My Heart's desire is that every Bro/Sis in Christ be encouraged in heart and united in love, and have a rich revelation of Christ, so that we can be a light of the world for Christ.
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post Apr 13 2016, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 08:14 PM)
Not to pour cold water, I used to desire along this line but after all the heart breaking, i find bro/sis in Christ are more judgmental than non-believers. tongue.gif
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This is what I'm trying to break Christians from.

It stems from the doctrine of mixture of Law & Grace.

Based on the Law, we measure this and that against another person, hence the judgmental attitude.

Based on Grace, there's nothing to measure against because we are all on equal ground in terms of Righteousness and Salvation.

Do you see the reason why I'm so passionate on sharing this?

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post Apr 13 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 08:41 PM)
I'm depressed because UW blamed me for the way I dressed.

You shouldn't judged me for that.

Please dont PM me. Put it out here. I don't believed in hiding away everything.

No wonder Malaysians liked to keep everything secret.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 08:42 PM)
Well tell that to UW the Taliban.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 08:52 PM)
unknown warrior, FYI. I'm not throwing tantrum. You don't understand German culture.  doh.gif
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Look I understand European culture very well. Showing cleavage is the norm.

But you don't understand some Christians who are weak in their conscious gets stumbled easily.

I'm just advising, if we can avoid that, then just avoid.

How is that being judgmental on your dressing. Sheesh.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:00 PM)
Showing a bit of cleavage is fine. Of course IF a girl shows the whole mountain, ITS NOT FIINE!

I understood that. Those "weak Christians" should pray and ask for guidance.

But you blamed me instead.  doh.gif

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.

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Again, how did I blame you? What were the words use? laugh.gif


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post Apr 13 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:07 PM)
You are just like a politican. People have to remind you of certain things.  doh.gif

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.
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Ha, If you can actually show me the post of me being judgmental on you in this episode, I would surrender with a white Flag.

Can't you tell the difference between Advising and Judgmental? Aren't you super hyper sensitive? laugh.gif


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post Apr 13 2016, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:17 PM)
That's a typical poitician ploy. In other words, you don't remember.

Does it matter whether you advised or judging? It still hurts my feeling, you dope.

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.

Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault. Its not my fault.
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Okay I'm sorry, didn't know it was you in that picture. notworthy.gif


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post Apr 13 2016, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:23 PM)
Yeah whatever. I wear whatever I want. I'm not Taliban.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:25 PM)
If I see any more Taliban comments about my dress, you all will be sorry later.  vmad.gif
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Yes Yes I'm the Talib with the Ban whistling.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 09:41 PM)
Its not funny. You have a daughter yes?

One day she will grow up and guess what?

You will have a massive headache.  laugh.gif
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I reject that in the Name of our Lord Jesus. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 13 2016, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 10:01 PM)
Why are you in denial? Young adults will surely rebel against their parents.

Why do you think I got a tattoo?  devil.gif
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Well I'm not in denial because of Christ, my daughter can live the new creation Life.


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post Apr 13 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 10:06 PM)
As long as the father is not a Taliban and dont disapprove her dressing. Then it should be fine.  rolleyes.gif
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Well I'm depending on God's unmerited Favor (grace) on her life, God willing it should be fine. grin.gif
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post Apr 13 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 13 2016, 10:14 PM)
But why didn't I get grace when I was a teenager? Was it because I was rebelious?  devil.gif
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Maybe you got it, just that you didn't recognize it.
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Apr 13 2016, 10:25 PM)
Bro stop messing her head please........just say sorry to her lar aduih doh.gif
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Already did.
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post Apr 14 2016, 09:48 AM

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Acts 20:21 (ESV) - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Morning You who are dearly loved by God, Today I want to share some revelation on repentance. I've mention on Acts 20:21 in our last devotion, bear with me, and keep it in mind as I go through this today.

There's the teaching in the Christian circle that true repentance must be accompanied by remorse over your sins. Remorse in this context, would mean some form of sorrow, saying certain remorseful words, crying your tears, your eyeballs out...you get the idea. Now that in itself is nothing wrong but there is a problem If people say anyone who does that, then it's genuine repentance.

If you know your Bible, you will know that is not necessary true.

Judas was remorseful and repented.

In the NIV

Matthew 27:3 (NIV) - When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders.

In the KJV

Matthew 27:3 (KJV) - Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

Both translations brings out the "genuine" repentance criteria and yet He committed the ultimate act of self righteousness by hanging himself. There's no change, what's worse He was with Jesus as long as the other disciples.

So UW, what then is truly repentance that changes and also pleases God? The best answer always come from Jesus Himself.

As Christians, I'm sure you are familiar with the parables of the Lost Sheep, The Lost Coin and The Lost Son. Study Luke 15, they bring out really good revelation on repentance.

Study and read it completely (I'm serious) then I will ask you.

What did the Lost Sheep, the Lost Coin and the Lost Son "DID" to repent? I mean what were their remorseful actions? You will find NONE. There's no remorseful sorrow act of petinance. Surprise? Don't you think for a moment God would have stated this if it is utmost Important? I'll come straight to the point to show the revelation of what is True Repentance in these 3 parables.

The Lost Sheep, The Lost Coin and the Lost Son ALL CONSENTED to be Found, CONSENTED to be carried by God on his shoulder (Relying on his Strength!), CONSENTED to be celebrated ( To share in His Joy) and MOST Important CONSENTED to Be LOVED!

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This is TRUE REPENTANCE. Hence when you read Acts 20:21, you will understand what "Repentance towards God" means. If you still don't really get it, It means To CHANGE YOUR MIND in HOW you think about God. To Change from erroneous thinking that God is ALWAYS demanding from you, Always Out to Get you in your sins to "Towards" God is always waiting for you to come Home, Always Loving you, Always for you and not against you.

I truly believe believers who Repented in the manner as outlined in these 3 parables will see the Glory of The Lord upon their Life, ie: Answered Prayers, Response from God, Miracles, etc.

Hope this will Bless you, God Bless.

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Well Well UW Didn't you know the Lost Son Repented as shown in his remorseful speech (verse 21), NO! His true intention was his Hungry Stomach, Read verse 17 Carefully. Bye. laugh.gif

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post Apr 14 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 14 2016, 10:35 PM)
I don't need UW "approval."

UW always making big deal out of nothing.  rolleyes.gif
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Can't help it's because I care...... though I actually felt you're the one making it a big deal out of nothing.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 14 2016, 10:59 PM)
Now suddenly "you care?"  hmm.gif

But you are the one who's complaining bout my dress. Duh.
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Really? What did I complain "about" it?

Be specific. Don't use that "political" excuse thing to scurry away.

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 14 2016, 11:06 PM)
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Why are we still having this conversation? You complained about the cleavage right?

You always picked on me. You don't even understand European culture.
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That is why.....you're missing the point since from the beginning, it's not just about "cleavage".

Sigh, it's like you're so focus on how people think about your looks you completely missed the essence of what I was trying to emphasize.

And for the record, you look good, there, hopefully that settles this problem.
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post Apr 14 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Apr 14 2016, 11:21 PM)
I'm not missing the point. The point is you are a Taliban (again!) who is making a fuss over nothing.

I don't care what people think about my looks. I do care when people complained bout my dress.

Is Christian men so sensitive about cleavage?  doh.gif

No wonder women in Biblical times cover up like a Taliban minus the head scarf.
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You are missing the point. It's not just about the dress but anything and everything.

Yes I really hope you'll finally just admit it, you're making this a big issue because it's about your dress.

I didn't make this a big issue, started with just advising you but you had to complained this to luffy and then call me Taliban when all I'm doing is pointing to you don't stumble weaker Christians if we can.

But you had to turn it around and focus on educating the "weaker" Christians. Truth is we all have a role to play not just the weaker Christian.

Tell me if I'm actually wrong in this, EVEN from a biblical perspective.

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