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post Apr 8 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 7 2016, 04:01 PM)
It's a coping thing. Otherwise, it'll become a 'why didn't God do this if He's good' kind of thinking.

How do we consolidate this bitterness with the Bible? It's something I struggle with too, but I don't know where to look.
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Well here it is,

My today's Devotion is based on;

1 Timothy 6:12 (NIV) - Fight the good fight of the faith.Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

Do you know that Faith can be divided between 2 types? It's call the right type of faith and wrong type of faith.

Faith basically means Believe. You can either believe in something that is good or bad.

Right type of Faith always have a good opinion of God. (This type of faith always either speed up or bring forth God's promises come to life)
Wrong type of Faith hinges on negative opinion about God. (This type of faith always delay answered prayer or suspends it)

But to have the right type of Faith on God, you need to know Who God is, and that can only be discovered in the Bible.

Didn't Jesus says anyone who sees Him, has seen God the Father? (John 14:9). With this equation mind, (with regards to Healing), you'll notice everyone and anyone that came to Jesus ALL got healed. Jesus NEVER turned anyone down. NEVER.

So who says sometimes it is not God's will to heal his believers? That is baseless and unfounded.

But why is that in reality, many of God's people weren't healed even though have been prayed and believed? Answer lies in 1 Timothy 6:12. We are in a warfare, to be in warfare would mean a need to Fight the good fight of Faith, meaning to Fight (in the warfare of the mind) to have a good opinion of God.

You need to know our life is always in warfare against the weaponry of the thief who come to kill, steal and destroy. This is a fact whether we like it or not, whether we see it or not, whether we want to acknowledge it or not.

The devil always contest against God's people to have them doubt God because he & his team came to kill our Faith, steal our hope and thus destroy our Life. With that being said, the reason why answers are not coming forth from God is because the Devil & team they are resisting our prayers. Else it is redundant to call it in 1 Timothy 6:12, a Fight. You don't need to fight anything if there are no resistence.

Regardless, God's people do not Lose. Even if the person dies from whatever health affliction there is and was never healed, he/she gets to go Home to be with Jesus and that is far more a blessing because in heaven, all our pains, our needs, our sorrows is no more but blessed life everyday.

Hope this helps to give a better perspective of our faith-life and God.

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post Apr 8 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 7 2016, 10:13 AM)
Testing... wub.gif  tongue.gif

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Our cousin (Ishmael group) always claims Christians are mistreated by the Jews, do you see anything like that over there?


QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 8 2016, 06:28 PM)
It does, thank you very much UW for taking the time smile.gif
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You're welcome, Praise God.
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post Apr 8 2016, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 8 2016, 09:08 PM)
Uh, I think I'm missing context but what did tina link? Not sure if I understood where is that.
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It was a dress with cleavage. Nothing wrong with that If Guys know how to turn away, instead of staring like a lunatic but I told her to remove for the sake of weaker Christians.

QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 8 2016, 09:34 PM)
My answer is No.

The Jews and their cousin in Jerusalem are living next to each other.  In fact, there are mosques and churches nearby each others.

I have also visited West Bank/Palestine where Bethlehem is located.  I was there for a day.  Except there is a wall separating West Bank from Israel after first suicide bombing, life is as normal as it could be.

My local guide who was born in Taiwan.  He was formerly a professor in a seminary college in Taiwan but was "called to duty" by God to relocate to Israel.  He took up a professorship in Hebrew University and taught Bible Authentication until his retirement and now work as tour guide.

He said many times that the issue is more of politicians like Hamas and others then the common people.

B4 Israel bombed West Bank, they would inform the locals there.  He said the Jews value life while the opposite is not.

There are Arabs living in Israel as citizen.  There are different types of Arabs.  Jericho (which I also visited) is within Arabs controlled area and the Arabs there are different than Arabs in West Bank.  No wall is necessary for Arabs in Jericho.

In fact, in Bethlehem restaurants, they serve liquors to the locals.

Jerusalem is split into 4 sectors and controlled by Jews, Muslim, Armenia and Christian.

This is my 2nd trip and I wished the trip could be longer ...
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Tq, this just solidifies what I suspected.
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post Apr 8 2016, 11:26 PM

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lol, I thought you meant the Link of Tina's Pic.
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post Apr 9 2016, 08:21 AM

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Sang this in Church last Easter Service. rclxm9.gif

Hand Clapping, Toe Tapping, Hand Lifted High! and sometime Dancing!


Feels like I'm in Planetshaker Church. innocent.gif



Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is alive

Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah

Grave where are you now? You've been overpowered!
Death where is your sting? Conquered by the King!
Resurrected one, shining like the sun
Breaking through the fear, victory is here, victory is here now

Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Jesus be lifted higher, we serve a risen saviour

Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is alive

Resurrected one, shining like the sun
Breaking through the fear, victory is here, victory is here

Oh, oh, hallelujah
Oh, oh, hallelujah
Jesus be lifted higher, we serve a risen saviour

Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is
Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is alive

The same power, the same power that crushed the enemy
The same power, the same power, the same power lives in me
The same power, the same power that crushed the enemy
The same power, the same power, the same power lives in me
The same power, the same power that crushed the enemy
The same power, the same power, the same power lives in me

Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is
Risen, He's risen, forever glorified
Risen, He's risen, King Jesus, King Jesus is alive

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah
Jesus, King Jesus is Alive
Hallelujah

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post Apr 10 2016, 03:38 PM

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I'm testifying Today.

Dear Friends, We have a Living & Responsive God. Not the Imaginative or fairy tale God as some quarters like to claim.

This God that we serve and worship, responded to my specific predicament.

He spoke through the preaching Pastor mentioning a very specific situation that happened to me & my family early this morning. How is that possible? How would He know?

There are just too many "random" or "coincidences". No, this is not by chance. God knew I needed to hear from Him.

Thank You Father God.






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post Apr 11 2016, 10:25 AM

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John 4:10 (NIV) - Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."


Morning Guys,

The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 3:17; where the spirit of God is, there is liberty!

The Key to be delivered from the problem of self occupation (everything about self, me myself and I, selfishness) early in the morning is to wake up, open up the Bible and ask God to reveal who Jesus is, get engrossed with our Lord Jesus Christ! See the beauty of God in Christ. See, apart from Christ, the Self takes over but with God in the centre, Self gets booted out! For example When I drive on the road, all others should make way for ME....you get the idea. The problem with SELF it downplays/Stifle The Power of God's Salvation in our Life.

Some people are reluctant to get engage with God because they think God want to take something from us. (Another form of SELF problem) That we will lose out partly. A very typical thought for example; If I give myself to God, he may ask me to go to Somalia for mission sake and suffer there. The problem with such mindset is the lack of understanding who God is. BUT IF you KNOW who Jesus is, the revelation will revolutionize your LIFE!

Here is one revelation from the story of the Samaritan Woman at the Well, revealing the nature of God. (John 4). This story deals with people who thinks God always demands something and that we will lose out.

Jesus purposely travelled to Sychar, a town in Samaria to find that Woman! . This woman has a shady background. She's living with a Man who is not her husband and had 5 husbands. This samaritan woman went to draw water at the well at Noon Day. Most Women would draw water early in the morning because it's hot at other time. This Samaritan woman most likely wanted to avoid contact with other woman because of her background, most likely to avoid the gossip and the stare.

When She met Jesus, Jesus said something interesting: “Will you give me a drink? Here is God asking from his creation, a drink. Do you think for 1 moment, Jesus really needed her help or resource? This is Jesus Christ who multiplied the 5 loaves and 2 fishes for more than 5000 people, who has the power to turn water to Wine, created the entire Universe and holds all the Planets in it's place.

Do you really think Jesus is that helpless? He could command legions of Angels at his bidding, and call any of them to give him water from the well if He wanted to at any time! Think about it.
But our Lovely Saviour ASKED her instead. There are no insignificant details in the Bible, everything has meaning! What God does here has it's divine purpose and we need to learn and receive the revelation here!

Do you think for 1 moment, Jesus ask this, is for his own benefit? Do you think if you put Christ in the centre of your life, it's for God's Benefit? Do you think God is a demanding God because He likes to demand? Why did Jesus ask her that?

The answer is in John 4:10:

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."

If you knew how GRACEFUL I AM (the FREE GIVING GOD, THE GOD WHO IS ALWAYS GIVING!), HOW BOUNTIFUL IS MY GRACE and WHO I AM (IF YOU KNEW THAT FREE GIVING GOD), you would ASKED ME and I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU! Hallelujah! If you KNEW GOD, instead of HIM taking from you, you would have ASKED HIM and TAKE FROM HIM!!!

At the end of it all, Jesus said something profound and I want you to meditate what it means. At the end his disciples came back and asked him (Jesus) to eat, Jesus said:

“I have food to eat that you know nothing about.” <---If you understand what this means, it will bless you, oh it will bless you and energize you even!

BTW, the Samaritan Woman got delivered from her SELF occupation (Her conscious awareness of what people think about her)..she didn't cared that much of what people think of her when She excitingly went back to the Town and talk about Christ to everyone! (Immediate Evangelism). How come? Answer is: Because she met Christ and Knew who God is!

God Bless.







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post Apr 11 2016, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 11 2016, 08:13 PM)
I really wonder what's like to witness that scene in real life. The sheer number of amazement and confusion coming from the people's face.
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The Samaritan Woman contact with Jesus made her forgot her own shame so to speak, I mean Jesus revealed to her she had 5 husbands and the current one living with her isn't even her husband. Even in today's setting it's kinda scornful shame even for Asian culture. Imagine 2000 years ago.

The Pattern that was set for the Gospel to come. It is not about not being remorseful about sin. It's about seeing the beauty of Jesus that make unclean people, clean and that's the Grace teaches us to repent without the 10 commandments!

Another aspect of this revelation has to do with Tithing. We think God demands to usurp our resource, no but IF we knew WHO God is, how gracious He is, we'll naturally tithe because it's more for our benefit.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 12 2016, 04:58 PM)
I think in year 2007 I promised God to give half of my first month's profits of my book sales to God's house.

....sampai sekarang buku belum keluar hahaha OTL but I still remember the promise.
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post Apr 13 2016, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Apr 13 2016, 12:00 AM)
Haih, UW you really messed up tina head this time ohmy.gif
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Okay, I'll talk to her personally.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 13 2016, 05:13 AM)
Okay guys I want to ask if anyone of you know what song is this

http://thedemonsurfer.tumblr.com/post/3732...i-found-this-cd

All I know it's in Hebrew, my friend found it, and it sounds like a 1980s sentai show.
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I just discovered this in my list of songs


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Matthew 7:13 (NIV) “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.


Morning guys.

We're continuing in the Grace of God Today. Grace means something we cannot earn but to receive as a Gift, like a birthday gift, no self effort involve.

Today we'll address some misquoted bible passage. Do you know this passage sometimes has been misquoted to purport that it is a struggle to Salvation?

It doesn't say that.

What is the revelation here? What does it mean, Narrow? Narrow in the Greek (stenos), the context means as opposed to broad way (many ways), the contrast is the only way.

This Narrow Gate refers to Jesus Christ. He is the only Way to Father God. (John 10:9 (NIV) - I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.)

How difficult is it to enter through this Gate? God says, Enter through. Do you know in the Greek the word "through" is "dia"? Which means: on account of, because of

So if you sum up the context in Greek, what Matthew 7:13 is saying is: Enter into Salvation on account of Jesus Christ. Christ is the one who has paid your account of sins. He is the one who has finished the work. With regards to Salvation, you have no work but to Enter In! Do not allow legalistic Christians to hoodwink you out of the Grace of God.

Enter in with Faith and be rested that your Salvation is secured and eternal, held by our Lord Jesus Christ.

God Bless.


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post Apr 13 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 12:42 PM)
Our salvation comes as a gift of God's grace, but it can only be appropriated by our response in faith.

Faith in Jesus Christ is the only condition God requires for salvation.  Faith is not only a profession about Christ, but also an activity coming from our heart who seeks to follow Christ as Lord and Savior.  Faith means firmly believing and trusting in the crucified and risen Christ as our personal Lord and Savior.  Faith also involves repentance.

By the way, there is a narrow gate in Jerusalem though not from the time of Jesus.  You may read up here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle
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If there is a "but", it is no longer a Free Gift or Grace but conditional.

This is where we have missed it.


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post Apr 13 2016, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 12:56 PM)
If you don't response with acceptance and repentance, how are you to receive the Grace?  Hence, there is a but there.
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FREELY.

by definition, unmerited.

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 01:02 PM)
aiyoh...i know it is free.  but if you don't have the action of repentance of your sins and accept the free gift how are you to receive it? doh.gif
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Luke 15.

The Parable of the Lost Sheep

1Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.



What was the sheep act of repentance? Here Jesus mentioned the word "repentance".
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post Apr 13 2016, 01:13 PM

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Or let me put it this way, Let me give you a parable.

A Very Rich Man gives you a RM1 Million Lamborghini out of his grace.

He tells you like this:

I give it to you FREELY as my act of Grace, but you just have to pay RM1 every month.





Totally contradict the term and definition of "Free".

This where we have missed it in the Church.

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 01:20 PM)
Let me rephrase for you:

A Very Rich Man gives you a RM1 Million Lamborghini out of his grace.

He tells you like this:

I give it to you FREELY as my act of Grace, but you just have to accept it.

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Yes just accept it as FREE without any conditions.
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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Apr 13 2016, 01:34 PM)
I think the answer you are seeking may lie in John 6:25 onwards.

God has given us grace for us to freely respond to. By His sovereignty He has determined who will seek this salvation. We choose to respond to God's calling because He had first reached out to us that we will be sent to Christ, hence our response of acceptance by itself is bestowed upon God's grace. From a human perspective it is "We choose to accept Jesus", but from the eyes of God it is "You were chosen by Me!"

If God can provide us with the appropriate response to His calling, He will also provide us with the Holy Spirit for repentance.

Had been doing a bit of a read up recently about Human Responsibility in line with God's Sovereignty. Understanding this is still out of this world for me, but hopefully I'll be there one day. Maybe... unknown warrior?
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Yes, Jesus already gave Hint, he will give us the Salvation unmerited either way in verse 27 whether we understand it or not and yet the Disciple ask "What works of God must we do?" And verse 29 is the Key.

The Flesh in us always wants to have that Self Glorification in qualifying by our effort (verse 28)

Salvation is granted of God and God Alone. Our part is to receive it as unmerited without conditions.

With this Correct Understanding...There will be a Rest and Faith In Christ that Gives God the Glory because it hinges of the work of Christ.

When We depend on the Grace of Christ Alone, God gets the Glory.

If we say, We must respond with Acts of repentance.....In Other words I ALSO got it, by my effort. That discredit Glory to God Alone because now we are involved.

No. Salvation is the work of Christ and Christ Alone, NEVER can involve Man.


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post Apr 13 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Apr 13 2016, 01:51 PM)
but ... doh.gif
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Well I wanted you to ask me the next question,, but but UW, you mean we don't have to repent?

Repentance in the Greek = Metanoya means Change of Mind. In the New Testament, the Right Point for Repentance is found in

Acts 20:21 (ESV) - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Because it brings out the best definition according to the Greek.

Repentance is a process of the Believers Life but it is by no means a prerequisite to qualify for Salvation. <--this is where we have missed it. It is something we need to agree with God (that it is Wrong), not to be use as a gauge or to perform to qualify for Salvation. (Pls read this carefully and not to misunderstand)

The right Way to approach God is like this.

We believe and confess Jesus is the Son of God.
We believe and confess Jesus as our Atonement for our Sins at the Cross.
We repent Towards God meaning, understanding God is for us, He Loves us and we need not fear God as in the OT way of Fear and Trepidation. But as a Father to a Son.
We agree that Sin is wrong.
We need to confess during the Sinners Prayer we have 0 ability to repent in our actions and cry Help Me God. BELIEVE that the Holy Spirit in us will do that sanctifying work.

That is the right way.

Many Christians circle got it wrong. They always emphasize "you must repent repent repent!". As if shouting You must repent, will enable to believer with the power to repent.

Repentance comes without us being conscious about it. I say this to be true "We become Holy by accident" And The Meaning of Accident in this context pertaining to Holiness is;

A sudden event that is not planned or intended. ( A life of rest in Christ).


* And before anyone misunderstands me, Don't ever quote me saying we can sin as we like, I never said this. This is the same accusation levelled against the Apostle Paul in Romans 6:1

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