Same thought here. Dude claimed that he's a Christian but yet asking basic Christianity question? Its not a straight-forward answer to that question mind you.

I read up on John 6:40 and Galatians 3:26-28 as to get the better understanding.

Isn't the misconception of "as long as a person do good, he/she go to heaven" ? I don't think so.

When the Bible already stated that "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".

UW already countlessly explained about Works and Grace.

No one is good, except God alone. Mark 10:18

We don't go to heaven based on our good deeds or otherwise. We must be humble and submit ourselves to God and accept Jesus as our Saviour for our eternal salvation.

Do good deeds? Catholic that way ----> 

If he burns the whole forest, that's kinda like Taliban..

Its not OK. God is omnipresent.

I get what you're thinking. Its like a kid who like to misbehave and try to cheat or whatever in front of his friends. He thinks that nobody watching...but somebody's watching him. He just don't know it yet. 

Imagine when the same kid grow into an adult. He's thinking about cheating his gf, parents, siblings, colleagues, etc. You get the idea.

Don't be a naughty kid. 

"The only religion approved by God is Islam (Submission)"Quran 3:19

I asked a simple question and till now nobody has answered it. YOU included. I didn't justify anything. And im a nut job just cuz I chose to challenge your hypocrisy?? And u calling me a nut job makes u more Christian?

That's why I say a beautiful religion is lost on followers like you because you think our religion is just about memorising the Bible and quoting verses. And that crap about just because you accept Christ that means ure saved. Do u think its that easy to be saved? Accepting Christ is NOT about throwing Holy water on your head and memorising the Bible. Its about a full transformation of self. You don't need to be Baptised to go to Heaven. Its all about your life and the way u live it and the message you send to the people around you. Strangers should know ure a Christian not by the Cross u wear around your necks or the Bible verses you quote but by the way you live your life.They need to see God in YOU!

THE BIGGEST ENEMY OF ANY RELIGION IS ITS OWN FOLLOWERS!

Don't ever forget that!

Believe it or not, I used to be like both of you when I was still a Christian, and I too was appalled by how dogmatic people are when it comes to judging non-Christians.

It took me roughly around 20+ years to actually grow out of my faith and leave the religion.

Yes and no, because atheists think there wasn't even a tree nor a forest to be "burned down" in the first place. And we got to the conclusion that it is the illusion of the forest in the first place that made us dislike those trees in the first place.

And even a diplomatic way would be seen as "hostile" because the Christians I see here would rather take questions from people within their own group, and everyone else is considered as "outsiders" or worse, "the devil's influence".

But no, not every atheist / ex-Christian is hostile. We only tend to go against Christianity the most because we spent most of our lives believing in god as well until we came to the age of reason.

Look at what happen whenever we post something. All the regular Christians who used to post here all disappeared, all afraid to confront other Christians and ex-Christians simply because they were afraid that their faith will waver, or worse, that we may have caught their own hypocrisy and now they're avoiding us.

Many left Christianity because of unanswered prayers, church members treating them indifferently, etc..Though there are some people in church who likes to gossip, slander, prejudged about others, I don't think that's the reason(s) why a person should leave Christianity.

Living like Christ a long journey. Nobody said that being a Christian automatically saved us from not being harmed, not having any diseases, etc.

In fact living a Christian life has its own ups and downs. For some maybe its more of the "downs". But we still have faith and keep on building that relationship with God.

We believe the Bible is the word of God. The meaning of message came from God. Therefore the Bible must be the ROOT basis that defines Salvation, Christianity and the Gospel.
Otherwise anyone can simply create religion as they please. What you're doing right now validate... the meaning "Man creates Religion." We cannot have that. Because If Man creates religion, there is no security because all Men are sinners!

What you're saying here is also Universalism Religion, which is not what God says in the Bible. Contrary to what you believed about Christianity, Jesus did not come to make bad people good. He came to make dead people live! See, you don't understand it's not because being vitreous does not matter but it's because of your state of Sin.....even when you perform good dead, you are spiritually dead! People who are spiritually dead (in state of sin) are separated from God. People who are separated from God do not have eternal life.

It is only in the Name of Jesus Christ that one can be saved, there is no other Name under Heaven that Man can be saved from eternal condemnation. Not in your own good works or your effort or your name.
And God Himself validates this.

Acts 4:12 (NIV) - Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."

That is validated through our Faith given freely by God's Grace!

And There is no other God as well.

Isaiah 44:6 (NIV) - "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.

No it is not. See you are talking about "fruits", Problem is... You cannot "force" or produce fruit. If you understand what is the meaning of fruit, it doesn't come from you, not of your own produce or strength.

So how can you use that as qualification to enter in Heaven?

It still comes from God and God even emphasize Good works ...meaning all your virtuous effort cannot bring you to Heaven.

Ephesians 2:8  (NIV) - For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God

Acts 15:11 (NIV) - On the contrary, we believe it is through the grace of the Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

Romans 3:24 (NIV) - and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

Romans 9:16 (NIV) - So then, it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.

And many times in the Bible, God says you will be saved when you put your Faith in Christ.
Romans 10:9 (NIV) - If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 10:10 (NIV) - For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

John 3:16 (NIV) - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Not good works or you being virtuous will save you.

This is the word of the Lord God Almighty!

PERFECTLY SAID INDEED! MY THOUGHTS INDEED!

Its always those Bible quoting fools who DO NOT KNOW THE BIBLE THEMSELVES. Hence their only defence is to blindly Bible quote. They have no other way of interacting with ppl cuz they faith is so damn shallow. They can only rely on the Bible which they have memorised but have no idea how to put that into practice.

DAMN HYPOCRITS!

In this forum, we are only sharing information. There is only so much we can do. Truth to be told, If a person is resistance to scripture, you should know that the core root...he is not resistance to us, It's something else.

Actually I can't save his soul, you got that part wrong. Only God can. And God's word = God Himself. Hence we cannot shy away from quoting scripture. Else He would not know where I  base my statements from. And people may say.....I just make that up (as he is claiming now). As it is, those are God's word.

John 14:6 means God only recognize Jesus as the only way to God.

Only in Jesus is found Life and Truth.

If we say we can do good deeds as a way to God then Jesus is not the only way.

None taken.

I think everyone can see clearly you are the one who came in here asking for "war"

That is your hypocrisy in trying to pin that title to others.

Nobody force you in the first place but you came in here If I guess it right..you actually came in here ready to explode on others.

This is a thread for Christians to fellowship not for you to come in here to test water then bash on everyone.

You want to argue...argue all you want in RWI.

Try it one more time I will report you to the Mods.

So what do you rather prefer? Do you actually enjoy that kinda thing?

Well they came here and carpet bombed the whole thread on a daily basis. How's that for fun.

Then what I said earlier confirms it.

You are promoting a universalism religion, not Christianity.

Sorry dude, but for us Christian, the Bible is the only and final authority that defines Christianity.

It's not one of the many guides..It's the ONLY Guide.

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Guys, bro & sis...I think we can put this case to rest.

This guy is not really a Christian. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

He's parading as one trying to confuse everyone.

Let's just ignore him.
ps: if you want me to delete his post, let me know. Wasted our time dealing with a troll here.

Well IDK. You seem OK with the Taliban running up and down here. Its exhausting you know dealing with creepy dude.

I didn't say it, God said it.

Jesus is the only way to God.

There's no other way.

No way hosay.

Matthew 22:36-40New International Version (NIV)
The Greatest Commandment

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 28:16-20New International Version (NIV)
The Great Commission

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 [B]Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

You guys ought to be ashamed especially those from pastoral team.

Taliban.

No, God made it easy. By way of Faith.

I'll tell you who is trying to complicate it.

Man.

& of course the devil (that's another story)