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post Jan 29 2016, 12:12 PM, updated 10y ago

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Assume monthly basic salary is RM4000
If your monthly EPF contribution is 11% ( RM440 ), taxable income = RM3560, income tax payable = RM77

If your monthly EPF contribution is 8% ( RM320 ), taxable income = RM3680, income tax payable = RM109

Conclusion : If you choose to contribute 8%, you will end up paying more income tax to the government, which will make the government richer.

Finance Minister Najib said this measure is meant to boost up the slow-down market, but from this example we see that the money does not go into the market.

Instead the money goes direct into the government's pocket through the greater amount of income tax that we will have to pay.

Obviously this measure does not help the market at all


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Anyone working in income tax capacity/ HR can confirm if the deductions above are right?


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post Jan 29 2016, 12:13 PM

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/k all no problem hit rm6k limit already
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:13 PM

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Hmm...good point there
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jan 29 2016, 12:13 PM)
Hmm...good point there
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Not sure if the income tax deductions are right though.

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Jan 29 2016, 12:12 PM)
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Macam logic jugak

Anyone working in income tax capacity/ HR can confirm if the deductions above are right?
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Only happen to those yearly EPF less than 6k

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM

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oso

3% put into EPF gov cannot collect GST

3% go spend Gov can collect GST
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM)
Only happen to those yearly EPF less than 6k

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but even if exceed 6k, less EPF does automatically mean more taxable income
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:16 PM

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That's a lie. EPF contributions are taxed already. If EPF contributions were tax exempt, you would be calculating your income tax on your gross income minus EPF contributions. Like say a person makes 10k. If his EPF portion were tax exempted, you will only calculate tax on the 8.9k (under 11% contribution), not 10k.
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:17 PM

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Money market hold up due to .....................

The money market become tight & ask u guys spend more to solve it.

everybody spend more -- > money turnaround faster for gst
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 29 2016, 12:15 PM)
but even if exceed 6k, less EPF does automatically mean more taxable income
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True only for the first 11 month, but all will reconcile at December month..... So no effect at the end of december / or doing BE

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:19 PM

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If you mean PCB (Potongan Cukai Bulanan) calculation, it is actually quite complicated, even though you can refer to LHDN for sample calculation
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Jan 29 2016, 12:16 PM)
That's a lie. EPF contributions are taxed already. If EPF contributions were tax exempt, you would be calculating your income tax on your gross income minus EPF contributions. Like say a person makes 10k. If his EPF portion were tax exempted, you will only calculate tax on the 8.9k (under 11% contribution), not 10k.
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Go learn LHDN formula properly before state a fact....

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:20 PM

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Good point. Kena tanya kat kawan aku at LHDN. Thanks Seager for raising this question. I love you.
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:21 PM

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:21 PM

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 29 2016, 12:19 PM)
If you mean PCB (Potongan Cukai Bulanan) calculation, it is actually quite complicated, even though you can refer to LHDN for sample calculation
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Deswai I asked, if anyone can confirm if the deductions are right laugh.gif
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Jan 29 2016, 12:20 PM)
Good point. Kena tanya kat kawan aku at LHDN. Thanks Seager for raising this question. I love you.
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:23 PM

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I long time alr hit the 6k mark. So 8%, 11% no affect me.
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Jan 29 2016, 12:22 PM)
Deswai I asked, if anyone can confirm if the deductions are right laugh.gif
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I am pretty sure later some people will write in a blog or forum to analyze the pros and cons of having EPF deduction to 8%
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jan 29 2016, 12:18 PM)
True only for the first 11 month, but all will reconcile at December month..... So no effect at the end of december / or doing BE

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