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 Thermal interface material, Discussions on thermal pad/paste/grease

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sHawTY
post Nov 24 2006, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 24 2006, 10:35 AM)
It's hard to tell.... this cooler make use of more copper and neat fins...

however it lack of heat pipe..

faster grab it and do the review men ....
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There's a problem, the seller is in SG, and he can't come down to JB as the seller didn't have any passport... sweat.gif
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post Nov 24 2006, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(bombman @ Nov 24 2006, 01:00 AM)
AFAIK, there were few forumers who've used but cant recall ready who were they  whistling.gif
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Darn it, if only "they" see this topic and share their experience in using liquid metal... sweat.gif
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post Nov 24 2006, 06:04 PM

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long time didn't reply in this thread.. tongue.gif

moderno have sent the Zalman STG1 to PCmoddingMy.com for reviews on our local climates.. rclxms.gif

but unfortunately need to w8 about 3-4weeks for the reviews doh.gif






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post Nov 24 2006, 08:58 PM

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ac 5 should be better than Intel core2's stock thermal compound???
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post Nov 24 2006, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Nov 24 2006, 08:58 PM)
ac 5 should be better than Intel core2's stock thermal compound???
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definately better tongue.gif

erm... anyone selling liquid metal here??? biggrin.gif bombman u selling?? tongue.gif

EDIT: rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
err... i googled for 'liquid metal thermal compound' and i think i am changing my mind laugh.gif
http://www.viperlair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46981
http://www.frostytech.com/permalink.cfm?NewsID=46586
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35979

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post Nov 24 2006, 09:47 PM

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Remember that the liquid metal (probably gallium arsenide) retards aluminium's ability to create a protective oxide layer, so using it on anything with aluminium is a nono.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 24 2006, 09:47 PM)
Remember that the liquid metal (probably gallium arsenide) retards aluminium's ability to create a protective oxide layer, so using it on anything with aluminium is a nono.
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What about using it on copper? blink.gif

Will it "eat" copper too? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zamree7 @ Nov 24 2006, 06:04 PM)
long time didn't reply in this thread.. tongue.gif

moderno have sent the Zalman STG1 to PCmoddingMy.com for reviews on our local climates..  rclxms.gif

but unfortunately need to w8 about 3-4weeks for the reviews doh.gif
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Sweet...
Can't wait for the results...

Eih, will PCMM make a comparison review between Arctic Silver 5 & that Zalman Thermal Paste?

I think they should... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 25 2006, 01:18 AM

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i visted LYP today and check out on the Zalman thermal paste in close...

realized that the bottle looks dry and the liquid seems to be dried ...

dare not to buy it the time scared it is not as smooth as it suppose to be ....
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2006, 01:18 AM)
i visted LYP today and check out on the Zalman thermal paste in close...

realized that the bottle looks dry and the liquid seems to be dried ...

dare not to buy it the time scared it is not as smooth as it suppose to be ....
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...................... sweat.gif

There's only one bottle left? blink.gif
If there is more, please don't tell me that all the bottles looks dry sweat.gif

Err, which shop did you look at? blink.gif
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post Nov 25 2006, 05:51 PM

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The bottle I got from the all IT hypermarket was dry..
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QUOTE(knighty @ Nov 25 2006, 05:51 PM)
The bottle I got from the all IT hypermarket was dry..
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Argh...

Then, what did you do?
Didn't ask for refund? [can refund ka? sweat.gif ]

If it's dry, then it's useless liao...
Hmm...

There is another way, but not sure if it'll work or not...

Why don't u use a lighter and try to reheat the base of the zalman thermal paste bottle?

Not sure if it'll work or not, but it's worth a try... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 24 2006, 11:22 PM)
Sweet...
Can't wait for the results...

Eih, will PCMM make a comparison review between Arctic Silver 5 & that Zalman Thermal Paste?

I think they should... thumbup.gif
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i think so... dunno whether they have done before reviews for AS5 sweat.gif

QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2006, 01:18 AM)
i visted LYP today and check out on the Zalman thermal paste in close...

realized that the bottle looks dry and the liquid seems to be dried ...

dare not to buy it the time scared it is not as smooth as it suppose to be ....
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actually it's not a liquid..it's just the same as AS5 with the same amount of 3.5g in a big(consider big for 3.5g contents in about 10ml bottle)
u cant see the thermal grease just by looking the packaging.. whistling.gif


QUOTE(knighty @ Nov 25 2006, 05:51 PM)
The bottle I got from the all IT hypermarket was dry..
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is it really dried? sweat.gif sweat.gif

i've got many stock for this.. dun tell me it's all dried out... but until now ppl buying from me all ok with no complaints thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(knighty @ Nov 25 2006, 05:51 PM)
The bottle I got from the all IT hypermarket was dry..
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i think it not dry.i had seen it at Moderno shop.

first time look,i also saw that it was dry in the bottle.seem like empty bottle.

then,i knew that it was only optic illusion (like in science subject at school).the paste totally not dry.only eye make mistake sweat.gif

better check and see it properly rclxms.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 24 2006, 09:47 PM)
Remember that the liquid metal (probably gallium arsenide) retards aluminium's ability to create a protective oxide layer, so using it on anything with aluminium is a nono.
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what oxide layer for?

is it will effect the performance of the heat transfer?
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:52 PM

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It 'looked' dry,and didn't stick to the brush well.
I had to use a toothpick to mix the paste around before it softened and got easier to use.
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(knighty @ Nov 27 2006, 12:52 PM)
It 'looked' dry,and didn't stick to the brush well.
I had to use a toothpick to mix the paste around before it softened and got easier to use.
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i didn't look at it at first
just shake the bottle up before open
no problem there...
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post Nov 27 2006, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Nov 27 2006, 12:57 PM)
i didn't look at it at first
just shake the bottle up before open
no problem there...
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yea...agree with u.like air kotak at supermarket.

shake well before use thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 24 2006, 11:17 PM)
What about using it on copper? blink.gif

Will it "eat" copper too? sweat.gif
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from the review seen from link provided above
no problem with copper, juz Al is a no-no

QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 27 2006, 12:50 PM)
what oxide layer for?

is it will effect the performance of the heat transfer?
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i dunno bout AlO, though it would be a gud fire retardant
but by going the Zinc roof theory
Zinc on the roof actually oxidise to become ZnO
and this ZnO is more stable to weathering than the metal (as the the basis of the roof) and the zinc itself
so this first layer of oxide will protect the whole block from oxidising
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Nov 27 2006, 01:02 PM)
from the review seen from link provided above
no problem with copper, juz Al is a no-no
i dunno bout AlO, though it would be a gud fire retardant
but by going the Zinc roof theory
Zinc on the roof actually oxidise to become ZnO
and this ZnO is more stable to weathering than the metal (as the the basis of the roof) and the zinc itself
so this first layer of oxide will protect the whole block from oxidising
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is the oxide layer good in transfer heat?

or is it will become heat insulator?

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