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post Sep 4 2020, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(B@rt @ Sep 4 2020, 09:19 AM)
After foreign and institution finish their dumping which seems to happen around 10am, 11am and 4pm.
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They got such a schedule time to buy or dump stock every day?
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post Sep 5 2020, 05:14 PM

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Glove is still in favor?

So many news around.

This post has been edited by wayton: Sep 5 2020, 05:32 PM
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post Sep 5 2020, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 5 2020, 05:45 PM)
I tot u asked about 600 days backlog for TG now.

March, it was 120 days.

June, it was 400 days.

Info is there if u search.

There is spot capacity if u wanna jump Q... pay more.
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So many news to read just now, from vaccines to gloves. So a bit confuse which is which now. Haha.

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post Sep 7 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 7 2020, 10:10 AM)
Yeah.... its seems like things have slowed down.... and now in red..... selling my Kossan and Harta, put all in Supermax.
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Not red enough to buy, not green enough to sell.

Not good for trader.
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post Sep 7 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Sep 7 2020, 02:31 PM)
Have you read what I wrote...? I did say out of 36m, 15m is one-off disposal so the core profit is RM21m. Which is very respectable given its market cap, giving them a 20x annualised P/E. TG is much more expensive currently at 50x annualised P/E. 2.5x more expensive.

If you can buy TG at 50x P/E, you can buy Carepls at 20x P/E, provided Carepls can continue to at least maintain their core profit of RM21m. RM25m will be good news. Anything more than RM30m is very good.
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It is difficult to value glove stocks now with PE because profit is extra-ordinary, as it is difficult to guess how the profit will grow and reduce after or when normalisation kicking in.

If normalisation kicking in with oversupply because of too many new supplies with many companies also venture in it, then smaller one will have disadvantage over the big one.



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post Sep 7 2020, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Sep 7 2020, 02:52 PM)
It is difficult to value every stock because nobody can forecast the future.

You are right smaller one will have disadvantage. Hence the big price difference of 2.5x at current valuation.
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True also.
But the other stock won't have that kind of profit suddenly grow 200%, 500% just 1 or 2 quarter,

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post Sep 7 2020, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(mojo86 @ Sep 7 2020, 03:35 PM)
Topped up Supermax and Careplus...according to their last QRs, I feel these 2 are the most undervalued. And in my mind, there's no way they will make less next QR than the last.
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Do not discount that market expectation is at different higher level now.
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post Sep 7 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Sep 7 2020, 04:26 PM)
i am wondering the Split + Bonus actually is a good thing or bad thing? bonus share = bring down the share value. split also bring down the share price. A chance for sharks to dispose share? The Kossan/Harta still not much Red today.
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Good if the market is bull.
More people being lured to buy cheaper price. Actually it is the same, just psycho different.

Bad if market is bear.
More shares can be dumped into the market.


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post Sep 8 2020, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 8 2020, 09:30 AM)
Good morning folks.

Topped up Comfort this morning. The share is not moving much in spite of its beautiful QR yesterday.

Looks like it cannot buck the trend of the glove stocks which moved south after their beautiful QRs were released.
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This is I fear the most on glove stocks currently.

Good news, react at open, then go soft afterwards.

Bad news, instantly goes down quick.

Not easy to trade if like that.
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post Sep 8 2020, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Sep 8 2020, 02:30 PM)
rebound petang incominggggg
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bounce to down side leh.
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Sep 9 2020, 09:45 AM)
Next time need to beware large Q.


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post Sep 9 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 9 2020, 09:48 AM)
did u read properly or not? didn't see any glove counters included.

user posted image

edit: again, total volume dont lie
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1 volume means 1 seller 1 buyer transacted.

So big volume also means big sellers are selling, just like half glass of water theory.

I think it should be,
big volume up, then more buyers are buying.
big volume down, then more sellers are selling.

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post Sep 9 2020, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 9 2020, 09:59 AM)
Of course. What's next to argue?

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I don't care too much on the Q, I look the buy/sell ratio.

Buy Q sitting at lower price won't make share higher.
But buy ratio that always eat up seller ask price and tend to eat higher and higher will make share price go higher.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(bronkos @ Sep 9 2020, 10:09 AM)
Glove counters are actively traded so queue standing drop out frequently.

In the end, the total volume speaks for itself.
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I only know the basic.

Volume big up - can chase.
Volume big down - stay sideline watching show.

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post Sep 9 2020, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 9 2020, 02:57 PM)
Not the first time supply glut / demand shock in O&G definitely won't be the last.

Not the first time margin compression in glove counter and definitely won't be the last.

But aiya nevermind, old investor will know. Especially those that have invested across the glove sector into the likes of supermax. TG will always be the standout performer. But the sector is always boom/bust due to the raw material and output volume interactions.
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If glove also cyclical stock, then need to wait awhile.

Now still high tide, need to wait until low tide to invest in cyclical stock.

If stretch longer, glove share price many are still 200 to 700% higher compared with Mar April price.



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post Sep 9 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 9 2020, 03:07 PM)
Gloves are semi-cyclical, every pandemic, share price spike. This spike this year was nothing like before because covid is nothing like before
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Then the fall back to normal also like nothing to before? laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:14 AM

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Glove looks like has a same pattern for the last several, whenever some rebound going on, selling pressure emerges.
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:19 AM

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Yesterday, it was retailers net buying again, quite big amount as well.

Look like the selling is not done by retailer, but institution.


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post Sep 10 2020, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 10 2020, 09:27 AM)
Today closing will know how is sentiments for glove. Whether to keep, add or cut loss.

Fubdamentally nothing has change for those co. Its all sentiments now playing with the prices.
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Or fund managers know something that we retailer do not?

The selling pressure is pretty huge.

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post Sep 10 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Sep 10 2020, 10:08 AM)
I'm sure something is up that we don't know.

The big shares can't be just dropping that much daily.
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But it is only limited to gloves, and previous hot stocks and those risen a lot one.

Other calm water only.

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