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SUSbisobona
post Jul 5 2020, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(prozfromhell @ Jul 4 2020, 11:57 AM)
4% only wor, so fast take profit?
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Can buy back when price go down a bit.
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post Jul 5 2020, 09:21 AM

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a fresh summary of koon yin yew thoughts on stocks investment.
may be useful to some people.


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Investment guidelines - Koon Yew Yin
Author: Koon Yew Yin    |    Publish date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020, 10:50 AM
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyi...oon_Yew_Yin.jsp

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post Jul 5 2020, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2020, 09:21 AM)
a fresh summary of koon yin yew thoughts on stocks investment.
may be useful to some people.
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yeah,useful for newbie..
wont be much of a use for seasonal trader/investor

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post Jul 5 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(twilight_fever @ Jul 5 2020, 09:39 AM)
yeah,useful for newbie..
wont be much of a use for seasonal trader/investor
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what he says makes all sense.

only that it is not easy to do! biggrin.gif

esp these:

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Any stock cannot continuously go up or come down for whatever reason. After sometime its trend will change. But you don’t know when its trend will change. You must not take the risk to buy a down trending stock because you don’t know when it will change trend. You must always buy an up- trending stock, at least you know it will continue to go up in the near future.
Never buy or sell any stock based on rumours and follow the crowd, like a sheep. You must decide for yourself based on your own knowledge. However, you must not forget to sell at the right time. It is not which stock you bought is so important. It is when you sell that really matters. 

When to buy
To be able to make more money, you must be able to control your own emotion of fear and greed. If you know for sure that the stock you have selected has very good profit growth prospect, you must not be afraid to buy more during price correction with margin finance. In any case, you should not use margin finance to its maximum limit to avoid margin call.
When to sell
I will start to sell as soon I see the company reported reduced profit. When you see one of your holdings has been going up higher and higher, you must not be so greedy to expect it to shoot up continuously. You should sell some to reduce your margin loan. Unless you sold some, you would not have funds to buy back at cheaper prices during price correction

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post Jul 5 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Jul 4 2020, 09:08 PM)
why not IF we invest with supermax was RM2.00

buy 11,000 shares @ rm 2.00
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that’s only good if u hold at rm2!

imagine if u buy 11k at rm2 then when supermax go until rm8 u sell it cos think it is overvalue and chart won’t go up continuously. then when drop to rm5 u buy again and now bull run u have bought higher than your previous price
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post Jul 5 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2020, 09:21 AM)
a fresh summary of koon yin yew thoughts on stocks investment.
may be useful to some people.
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QUOTE(twilight_fever @ Jul 5 2020, 09:39 AM)
yeah,useful for newbie..
wont be much of a use for seasonal trader/investor
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Statistically, about 2/3 retailers ended in red and 1/3 profitable.

"This is how stock markets work!" and "always buy an up- trending stock" is basically fueling bubble, fomo, #ddtg.

Btw, he is a old and giant croc in bursa.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 5 2020, 11:13 AM
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post Jul 5 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 5 2020, 09:58 AM)
that’s only good if u hold at rm2!

imagine if u buy 11k at rm2 then when supermax go until rm8 u sell it cos think it is overvalue and chart won’t go up continuously. then when drop to rm5 u buy again and now bull run u have bought higher than your previous price
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that is great.

if the no. of shares is the same, u took 8-2=6 profit.

then u go back to buy at 5, u paid 5-2=3 more than last buy..

yr net position is still 6-3=3 less transaction cost, i.e. 3 already in the pocket.

that is precisely what traders do.

what happens next... whether 5 to 8 to 10 or 5 to 3 to 1 is another matter.
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post Jul 5 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2020, 10:36 AM)
that is great.

if the no. of shares is the same, u took 8-2=6 profit.

then u go back to buy at 5, u paid 5-2=3 more than last buy..

yr net position is still 6-3=3 less transaction cost, i.e. 3 already in the pocket.

that is precisely what traders do.

what happens next... whether 5 to 8 to 10 or 5 to 3 to 1 is another matter.
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but if didn’t sell at 6 and hold until sell at 10 or higher 🤯
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post Jul 5 2020, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 5 2020, 10:45 AM)
but if didn’t sell at 6 and hold until sell at 10 or higher 🤯
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sorry... u r surely confused... yr maths sucks.

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post Jul 5 2020, 11:03 AM

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Ok time to buy penny stocks like AT and VSolar, and sell at next increase tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 5 2020, 09:58 AM)
that’s only good if u hold at rm2!

imagine if u buy 11k at rm2 then when supermax go until rm8 u sell it cos think it is overvalue and chart won’t go up continuously. then when drop to rm5 u buy again and now bull run u have bought higher than your previous price
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This is timing the market by any name.

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post Jul 5 2020, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2020, 11:03 AM)
Ok time to buy penny stocks like AT and VSolar, and sell at next increase tongue.gif
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Better dont touch goreng counters.
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post Jul 5 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 5 2020, 10:45 AM)
but if didn’t sell at 6 and hold until sell at 10 or higher 🤯
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Normally, it won’t go straight to $10. Up down up down few times..

Just hav to buy at the “right” time and sell at the “right” time.
For example, bought NKLA at 61.75 and sold at $63 for quick profit. Dropped to $55 then bounced back to $57++. Study the trend will help u take some quick profit along the way. Don’t need die die to hold until $10..
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dunno if true or not but i found this, buy a bit of MyEG tomorrow? rclxub.gif confused.gif confused.gif

Malaysia's MyEG Services RM 800 million partnership with Singapore's TraceTogether
https://techrumorskl.blogspot.com/2020/07/m...00-million.html
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QUOTE(alanfoo @ Jul 5 2020, 04:39 PM)
dunno if true or not but i found this, buy a bit of MyEG tomorrow?  rclxub.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif

Malaysia's MyEG Services RM 800 million partnership with Singapore's TraceTogether
https://techrumorskl.blogspot.com/2020/07/m...00-million.html
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I won't touch MyEG first thing tomorrow. See which way it goes first. Could fall quite drastically.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 1 2020, 06:06 PM)
harta today touched 15.00.
and wait till their AMG glove gets FDA approval:
https://hartalega.com.my/innovation/latex-n...icrobial-glove/
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harta closed at day high rm16.00 friday.

if it ramps up higher next week, it may have something to do with this AMG FDA approval.

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“We also export antimicrobial gloves to more than 20 countries and expect to get the United States Food and Drug Administration approval by mid 2020,” he said.
https://www.nst.com.my/business/2019/07/507...ext-three-years


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post Jul 5 2020, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2020, 05:47 PM)
harta closed at day high rm16.00 friday.

if it ramps up higher next week, it may have something to do with this AMG FDA approval.
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Think I better snap some tomorrow. When if goes down a bit, probably 15.50 or lower. What's the TP again?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2020, 08:41 PM)
Think I better snap some tomorrow. When if goes down a bit, probably 15.50 or lower. What's the TP again?
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https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/pt/5168.jsp

the p/e at this time is very high - 125 based on last 4 qtrs.

come aug 6 (i think), 2Q results will change that... a matter of how much.

plus, this AMG is supposedly going to create a significant impact.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/PelhamBla...to_boost_va.jsp

i think 18-20 is about right but who knows... we will see.

the current indicators are extremely bullish, need to watch for signs of reversal.

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post Jul 6 2020, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2020, 09:47 PM)
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/pt/5168.jsp

the p/e at this time is very high - 125 based on last 4 qtrs.

come aug 6 (i think), 2Q results will change that... a matter of how much.

plus, this AMG is supposedly going to create a significant impact.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/PelhamBla...to_boost_va.jsp

i think 18-20 is about right but who knows... we will see.

the current indicators are extremely bullish, need to watch for signs of reversal.
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Kangaroo333 > Jul 5, 2020 11:57 PM

今天想和大家分享一下万恶的资本市场里散户是如何被大鳄吃掉的故事。同时也要记录一下银行的丑恶行为,时时提醒自己不要中招。

过去几个月大马股市最热门的就是医疗保健板块,尤其是手套股。很多散户因而发了点小财。这时眼红的人(鳄鱼们)就慢慢浮出水面了。以下是整个事件的timeline:

6月1号:大家很开心show成绩,讲手套捞了多少多少(包括我自己)。

6月2号:早市时突然有一个家Bank跳出来说要调低手套股Margin的valuation(俗称“剪头发”)。也许一家Bank的威力不够,所以闭市后陆续几家Bank都跟着出公告。

6月3号:手套股开市便跌跌不休,短短两个小时内就跌了28-29%,差一点点limit down。随后则强势反弹。

6月中旬:期间市场一直传出各种谣言,比如Topglove的员工问题啦,“暴利税”,手套需求过剩等等。

经过一个月的洗盘和盘整,手套股的散户都洗到七七八八了。当大鳄们收到足够的票以后,接下来就是吸引散户们来接票了。

6月29号:M银行第一个出来调整手套股Margin valuation。间接暗示了各个手套股的合理价。手套风又吹起了。

7月3日:Top 4手套股股价历史新高!从大鳄的建仓平均价来算,两个星期至少起了30-40%。

我个人是非常提倡“有钱大家一起赚”的概念,所以我真的非常气愤银行的这一波操作。据说还有”李卖蛇“打电话叫客户卖掉手上的手套股。这一卖就是一个月新低的价钱,你说贱不贱?这一波中圈套的散户应该都在怀疑人生。资本市场就是那么险恶,当它是部提款机的话最后反而自己成了别人的提款机。所谓投资正道必须时时刻刻保持警戒心,对市场必须抱有敬畏之心。
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Lol, Rakuten just recommended to buy MyEG......

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