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RoxyMunky
post Aug 14 2020, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Aug 14 2020, 01:53 PM)
im at huge -25% paper loss... but if i could turn back time, would have dispose it before the dip. im not very sure how it will perform in the next 2-3yrs.
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now at 0.77 which is all time low.

was thinking of longer term investment on post pandemic recovery; then retails are regaining ground; hence this REIT should come back up by then.

probably a year holding i guess. at the same time, just enjoy the dividend.

btw, how was your dividend payout; apart from the -25% paper loss.

RoxyMunky
post Aug 14 2020, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 14 2020, 02:01 PM)
bought this yesterday, this one im planning to keep very long term for dividend
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yea, thats my plan too

QUOTE(sohailili @ Aug 14 2020, 02:04 PM)
Divd is good (compares to FD). but be aware they changed distribution from quarterly to half yearly. yesterday ex-date should receive by month end. so far not bad i would say. my rough calculation return estimated at slightly below 4.5%
im also hoping they can recover in a shorter time, so jus hold on to it.
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same thinking here, rather than park in in FD.

probably will get few lot and keep it.

YTLREIT - Notice of Book Closure
YTL HOSPITALITY REIT

Final income distribution of 2.8373 sen per unit (of which is taxable in the hands of unitholders) in respect of the financial period from 1 January 2020 to 30 June 2020


Kindly be advised of the following :

1) The above Company's securities will be traded and quoted "Ex - Incomeā€ as from: 13 Aug 2020
2) The last date of lodgment : 14 Aug 2020
3) Date Payable : 28 Aug 2020



Remarks:- Entitlement in Currency: The exact amount of is MYR0.028373.

Entitlement Details: For Taxable: The exact amount is MYR0.028373
RoxyMunky
post Aug 14 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Aug 14 2020, 02:17 PM)
Am Investment said fair value of YTLREIT is at 1.26. i guess it is cheap buy now
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/anal...arily-raised-60
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the current NTA is 1.496xx

submitted my queue.. lets see.

thanks for sharing, really appreciate it.

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 14 2020, 02:19 PM)
Retail will take a few years returns to 2019 level and likely to different landscape.
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you're definitely right in a way.

The Trust's hospitality assets range from business to luxury hotels and are spread across a range of locations across the world. The Company and its subsidiaries own approximately 13 hospitality properties, over nine in Malaysia, approximately three in Australia and over one in Japan. The Malaysian properties are located in Kuala Lumpur, Pahang, Perak, Terengganu and Penang. The Australian properties are located in the capital cities of Australia's three states: Sydney of New South Wales, Brisbane of Queensland and Melbourne of Victoria. The Japanese property is located in the Niseko area of the island of Hokkaido.
RoxyMunky
post Aug 14 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 14 2020, 02:28 PM)
Hotel business is worst in this Pandemic.
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yea, aware of the poor tourism industry meltdown. hence the current low price.

as mentioned, long term investment. lets see.

This post has been edited by RoxyMunky: Aug 14 2020, 02:31 PM
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post Aug 14 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Aug 14 2020, 02:35 PM)
good thing is most of their hotels are on master lease. 0 occupancy also still need to pay. not sure in the long run how will it impact the whole reit portfolio.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2020, 02:37 PM)
YTLreit has nothing to do with retail.
It is all about hotels.

Its Malaysia and Japan hotels are under master lease long term, which has some shield impact from the downturn, as long as the leasee can pay up the rental, which can provide stable income.

It is the Australia portfolio that under management contract, which will be impacted greatly due to lockdown there. That's why we see it plunged down from 1.xx to current 0.7x, once the news came out about lockdown there, because income will be affected during this period of time
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i learnt new things again, thanks for sharing notworthy.gif
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post Aug 15 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 15 2020, 02:09 PM)
Hopefully warren buffet's latest move will bring confidence into gold counters especially the likes of muiprop bahvest & bornoil

Come on gold
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still holding tight tight~
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post Aug 15 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Aug 15 2020, 05:26 PM)
Oh yes, you are 100% right. Trading should only be a small part of your portfolio. It is time consuming and high risk. I am only trading now because of the glove stocks mania. Once in 10 years or once in a lifetime opportunity. Eventually, we will be eaten by the sharks or crocodiles if we stay too long.

I think we need to diversify across time, assets and country. An example would be:

(1) EPF
(2) ASM, Wawasan 2020 (for non-bumi)
(3) Fixed deposit, advance payment into housing loan, etc.
(4) Unit trusts like FSM One Malaysia or FSM One Singapore.
(5) SSPN (if you have kids for tax exemption)
(6) PRS (for tax exemption again)
(7) Stashaway

The investments which did not work for me were:

(1) PSP lending like Funding Societies, etc (default rate too high)
(2) Gold investment like HelloGold (the spread is too high, no interest payment, etc).

Vanguard ETF is available in FSM One Singapore. I have opened an account in FSM One Singapore but I am stuck there because I have not opened a Singapore bank account yet.

Back on track now. Yes, maybe 10% of your money for trading if you have the time and skill.

You may want to allocate another 20% of your portfolio for stock investment in blue chips or growth stocks (this not trading stocks on a regular basis). Some people like the regular dividend payments. Otherwise, you may just opt out from stock investment and to dump it into unit trusts, etc instead.

Whatever it is, start early and have an emergency fund of 3 to 6 months first before thinking of investment. You don't want the decision of when you should sell your stocks or unit trusts to be determined by when your house roof leaks or when your car breaks down.

Buy some investment books to read. Read, read and read.

My 2 cents worth as usual. Sorry, a bit long winded during the weekend.  biggrin.gif
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thanks for this nice sharing, really a good read.
RoxyMunky
post Aug 17 2020, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 17 2020, 09:19 AM)
i prepare to get in gold at 12% below current price for hedging.
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are you referring to Gold ETF in this context?
RoxyMunky
post Aug 17 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 17 2020, 09:33 AM)
GOLDETF if bursa, there are XAU/USD gold etc u can also go in.
i cut loss too, but each time i cut i loose only 1% of my total fund.
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i see, thanks for sharing.
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post Aug 17 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 17 2020, 10:06 AM)
Our gold etf is kinda risky cos many times the etf  is not very liquid ....
the spreads between the buy and sell can be over 5 bids ....
with such a huge spread, it  can really hurt if ever you need to cash out urgently...

do take into consideration this risk....
look for bank negara gold coin investments.... it's a much better option.... it's googleable .... icon_rolleyes.gif
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yea, can see the trading volumes and buyers/sellers are very limited.

thanks for sharing, shall check more on such gold investments by banks.

QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 17 2020, 10:28 AM)
I am holding trade plus shariah gold etf via Wahed robo. About 18% gains after more than half a year
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thanks for sharing.
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post Aug 17 2020, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 11:01 AM)
gogo muiprop biggrin.gif

expecting news from their aus mining counterparts this week
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pray hard hard
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post Aug 17 2020, 01:34 PM

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sorry for the noob questions, mind to share what does the following abbreviation means?
1. IB
2. TA
3. FA
RoxyMunky
post Aug 17 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(cofin @ Aug 17 2020, 01:38 PM)
1. Investment Bank
2. Technical Analysis
3. Fundamental Analysis
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thanks sharing, really appreciate it.
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post Aug 17 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 05:27 PM)
Trust in muiprop biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Aug 17 2020, 05:29 PM)
Finally made it to 0.3 after 0.2x for 2 weeks  biggrin.gif Hope more good news coming from Australia then can climb back to 0.4.
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then cut loss at -10% as tuition fee laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2020, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Aug 17 2020, 06:14 PM)
Yea at this point can escape with 10% loss is considered a blessing already. But I didn't enter much for muiprop la. The rest stuck at Ruberex  cry.gif
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yea, that's my aim at the moment.
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post Aug 18 2020, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 18 2020, 03:52 PM)
Both Super and TG just hit insanity levels. +3..... can they reach +4??

And then MuiProp...... record high today.... 0.41  rclxub.gif
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push ar~

QUOTE(Duckies @ Aug 18 2020, 03:52 PM)
Set Q to sell at 0.5 lol
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wow.. can sell at that price?

push ar~
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post Aug 18 2020, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Aug 18 2020, 04:00 PM)
tonight see gold price how. if tonight up tomorrow can. but I will sell muiprop regardless up or down tomorrow. Thurs is a holiday and Friday is offload day I foresee muiprop will down.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 18 2020, 04:02 PM)
I see gold can maintain more than 2k by tomorrow. Then better sell, because anything can happen on Thursday when market closed.
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lets see if can breakeven tmrw or make some teh tarik profit.
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post Aug 18 2020, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Aug 18 2020, 04:12 PM)
I breakeven now already. I set Q at 0.5 see can hit or not. Regardless up or down, I'll throw muiprop tomorrow cause of Thursday holiday and Friday.
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Glad to see that.

I went in at 0.47... lets see tmrw how... will set a limit and let it go either at minimal loss or minor profit.
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post Aug 18 2020, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 18 2020, 04:20 PM)
Wait, why did u set to sell cheaper than u buy?
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CL limit management i guess

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