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ChAOoz
post Aug 13 2022, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 13 2022, 08:49 AM)
despite all the positive news, this thread is quite dead

probably this reflect the participant rate of retail investor in bursa too laugh.gif

economy expand 8.9%? how come layman does not feel any positive vibe on street? hmm.gif
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Inflated figure due to inflation and comodity prices i guess. Probably those that see the effects are O&G and cpo mostly so wont translate to alot of people.
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post Aug 13 2022, 03:55 PM

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We went a whole week without a post and I didn't want to break the streak.
The only thing felt on the street expanding at 8.9% is inflation. Even that's a bit conservative.
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post Aug 13 2022, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 13 2022, 03:55 PM)
We went a whole week without a post and I didn't want to break the streak.

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I was gonna post about Harta but then... I refrained myself tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2022, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 13 2022, 06:24 PM)
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I was gonna post about Harta but then... I refrained myself tongue.gif
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It's still moving in gravity's direction so we may not have seen the end of the event yet.
Inari had a blip midweek but that quickly corrected.
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post Aug 13 2022, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 13 2022, 07:11 PM)
It's still moving in gravity's direction so we may not have seen the end of the event yet.
Inari had a blip midweek but that quickly corrected.
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Those leading local tech stocks gave out pretty good returns.
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post Aug 15 2022, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 13 2022, 06:24 PM)
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I was gonna post about Harta but then... I refrained myself tongue.gif
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went in harta 1.92 hoping for technical rebound flex.gif
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post Aug 15 2022, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 15 2022, 09:47 AM)
went in harta 1.92 hoping for technical rebound flex.gif
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they still dumping why you enter?
quite dangerous yo, hope u can get out with profir
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post Aug 15 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Aug 15 2022, 01:21 PM)
they still dumping why you enter?
quite dangerous yo, hope u can get out with profir
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go in test water first.

no intention of averaging down. if down, so be it. suck it up and just admit a wrong judgement made.

on the side note: many has claimed that china glove industries is going destroy malaysian glove industries. sorry, i dont buy this idea. this is my basis on going in at today's price




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post Aug 16 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 15 2022, 01:38 PM)
go in test water first.

no intention of averaging down. if down, so be it. suck it up and just admit a wrong judgement made.

on the side note: many has claimed that china glove industries is going destroy malaysian glove industries. sorry, i dont buy this idea. this is my basis on going in at today's price
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careful bro, harta keep on dumping, now 1.69, might go below rm1
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post Aug 16 2022, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Aug 16 2022, 11:25 AM)
careful bro, harta keep on dumping, now 1.69, might go below rm1
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Will it hit Rm1?

Those who got trap at Rm10 and above high floor really a gone case
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post Aug 16 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Aug 16 2022, 11:25 AM)
careful bro, harta keep on dumping, now 1.69, might go below rm1
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thanks for your concern. i only buy 10 small lot yesterday.

i have been in the market for more than 10 years and yet i am still here. i only bet on what i can afford to lose.

now is the time of fundamentalist vs chartist

can fundamentalist goes wrong? yes.

then why not goes more into technical analyzing? well. not all are good at it. everytime i tried to use TA to trade, and yet everytime it fails. not everyone is as good as boon or chaooz

there are so many method to skin a leopard, as long you are able to manage your risk, you will be fine
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post Aug 17 2022, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 15 2022, 01:38 PM)
go in test water first.

no intention of averaging down. if down, so be it. suck it up and just admit a wrong judgement made.

on the side note: many has claimed that china glove industries is going destroy malaysian glove industries. sorry, i dont buy this idea. this is my basis on going in at today's price
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Glove asp is likely to stay below pre covid19 level for quite sometime.
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2022, 09:14 AM)
Glove asp is likely to stay below pre covid19 level for quite sometime.
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maybe 2-3 years, yes?

gloves have shelf life and expiry date.
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:26 AM

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top glove everyday busy buying back shares only. what are his plans to diversify? and still buying buying glove companies. it's a goreng penny stock now at best
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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:15 AM)
maybe 2-3 years, yes?

gloves have shelf life and expiry date.
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Believe most if not all users and distributors have over ordered during pandemic, will use up existing stock before ordering new. glove demand will likely very low until existing stock near depleted or expired.

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post Aug 17 2022, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 17 2022, 10:26 AM)
top glove everyday busy buying back shares only. what are his plans to diversify? and still buying buying glove companies. it's a goreng penny stock now at best
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i don't consider as penny stock. it is just as good as a lousy stock, and will continue to be in the next 2-3 years.

company like supermax, kossan and harta will have the money to sustain business, but not topglove. maybe they have to issue rights in future, better don't touch it

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2022, 10:30 AM)
Believe most if not all users and distributors have over ordered during pandemic, will use up existing stock before ordering new. glove demand will likely very low until existing stock near depleted or expired.
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over ordered yes. demand low also yes, company which has plenty of cash sitting in bank will able to sustain provided they do not do anything stupid

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 17 2022, 10:26 AM)
top glove everyday busy buying back shares only. what are his plans to diversify? and still buying buying glove companies. it's a goreng penny stock now at best
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When top glove, etc had extraordinary high valuation, they didn't take the opportunity to diversify, they are unlikely will in the near future.

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:33 AM)
i don't consider as penny stock. it is just as good as a lousy stock, and will continue to be in the next 2-3 years.

company like supermax, kossan and harta will have the money to sustain business, but not topglove. maybe they have to issue rights in future, better don't touch it
over ordered yes. demand low also yes, company which has plenty of cash sitting in bank will able to sustain provided they do not do anything stupid
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i doubt they will run out of business. gloves are still in an integral part of healthcare. but with current ASP and competition they will likely just be making regular decent profits each quarters. not much growth anymore to expect


QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2022, 10:34 AM)
When top glove, etc had extraordinary high valuation, they didn't take the opportunity to diversify, they are unlikely will in the near future.
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the boss more interested to do share buy backs at RM 6 and brought tropicana down with him lol
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:33 AM)
i don't consider as penny stock. it is just as good as a lousy stock, and will continue to be in the next 2-3 years.

company like supermax, kossan and harta will have the money to sustain business, but not topglove. maybe they have to issue rights in future, better don't touch it
over ordered yes. demand low also yes, company which has plenty of cash sitting in bank will able to sustain provided they do not do anything stupid
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Knowing demand will be low i.e over capacity in the next few years, burning cash to maintain existing operation and size, is unproductive, is considered stupid by some. close down a few factories and production lines could be more sustainable.

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post Aug 17 2022, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2022, 10:44 AM)
Knowing demand will be low i.e over capacity in the next few years, burning cash to maintain existing operation and size, is unproductive, is considered stupid by some. close down a few factories and production lines could be more sustainable.
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there are 2 different angles to view at it

those factories that have razor thin margin even before pandemic, might as well tutup kedai

if you are the factory owner, what would you do?

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