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post Jul 16 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jul 16 2020, 12:42 PM)
Yes. But it looks more serious this time. Unless news come out matter is resolved...... ?
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QUOTE(aerotec @ Jul 16 2020, 12:43 PM)
Sure movin to Harta? 🤔
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I monitor situation first in afternoon. Can still buy.
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post Jul 16 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jul 16 2020, 12:51 PM)
Steady. Don't let one fall get through your emotion. I bought ruberex more than a month ago at 3.85, after that it drop to 2.7. I thought it's gone case, it won't rise again. But yesterday it rose to 3.99. If I decided to cut loss earlier I would have turn unrealized loss into realized loss, what's the point. It's glove + covid 19 ain't gonna go anywhere. Patience is the key
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Thing is the price I bought is... better to dump. Once low enough, buy again.... when price rise again, will be better than wait until reach my target price.
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post Jul 16 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jul 16 2020, 01:01 PM)
Some ppl mentioned that detention is not really an issue and it happened before. How true is it?
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It did. Think it was on May. Search Top Glove US Customs.

Apparently the current suspension is because TG using "forced labour". This is gonna take a while to sort. Looks like Harta might be the big winner.

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post Jul 16 2020, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2020, 01:25 PM)
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TG will need to be very quick to circumvent this matter. WRP detention order was revoked after only 6 months. Any delay will be bad to TG.

That said.... is it good news for Harta? We shall see in the afternoon session.

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post Jul 16 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2020, 01:58 PM)
i think it will be quick.

becos the world glove supply is short, orders filled to the brim, long Q.

if u buy spot, u pay thru your nose.

then again, mr usa can flex muscles...?
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Actually, it's a good thing also, because now TG and other glove prices will fall sharply, and then can pick at lower prices. Technically, I won't lose much since the losses will be "equalised" when I bought lower.
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jul 16 2020, 02:09 PM)
In investing, always remember that Rome was not built in a day. In trading always remember that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed in a day
Its alright man, at least you have locked in some profits in the early gloves run. Start collecting the undervalued shares, once the fund managers are done gorenging gloves. They will rotate to goreng other. Just pray that your undervalued shares will get gorenged. If they dont get gorenged, as least you still have a decent dividends better than the FDs.

Also, if they drop, you will never panic sell because you truly know the underlying value of your shares. Try getting some good dividends stock with good dividends growths in the long run.
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My plan was to leave once the results come out, and then put them all in divided stocks. But since this is not the case, its better to cut loss, and wait for what happens this afternoon (and tomorrow), before buying low. Once the TG matter is resolved, shares will fly again. At low price, my losses will be recovered much quicker than holding for dear life.
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2020, 02:10 PM)
it has fallen... and the timing is somewhat "good"! tongue.gif

since it has run up so much, touched rm25.

the question now is how much discount, wud buyers want for TG, ie.e what price will be favorable?

i wish i know but i will watch 20.50.
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Looking at the fall this morning, it was slow and steadily, before more ppl knew. Once it was about to hit equal, decide to cut loss immediately.

Now as even more ppl would have known about the issue, will fall down quite sharply. I can see getting some at 20.....
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:17 PM

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TWO WEEKS NOTICE GUYS. BUY LOW.

Now I heard TG got suspended for the day? REALLY?

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The Board of Directors of Top Glove wishes to confirm that the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (“CBP”) has placed a detention order on disposable gloves manufactured by two of the Company’s subsidiaries, namely Top Glove Sdn Bhd and TG Medical Sdn Bhd on 15 July 2020.



We are reaching out to the CBP through our office in U.S., customers and consultants, to understand the issue better and work towards a speedy resolution of the matter, within an estimated 2 weeks.



There is a possibility this may be related to foreign labour issues, which we have already resolved, save for one more issue with regard to retrospective payment of recruitment fees by our workers to agents prior to January 2019, without our knowledge.  However, Top Glove has already been bearing all recruitment fees since January 2019 when our Zero Recruitment Fee Policy was implemented.



Over the past few months we have been working on this issue which involves extensive tracing, to establish the correct amount to be paid back to our workers, on behalf of the previous agents.  We estimate the total amount to be about RM20 million to RM50 million.



We believe it is in the best interests of all parties to come to a solution expeditiously so that our disposal gloves can reach the parties that need it the most, during this COVID-19 time.



The Company will provide updates upon further developments.



This announcement is dated 16 July 2020.


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2020, 02:21 PM)
TOP now showing 20.70.
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How that happened? My one (Rakuten) is showing 21.40?
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:30 PM

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Wow. Supermax immediately down at restart. Only Harta still in green.
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post Jul 16 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2020, 02:30 PM)
suspended.
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Looks like it. Either tomorrow pick up, or later in afternoon.

Quite big effect on other glove counters.... but Supermax..... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jianwei90 @ Jul 16 2020, 02:36 PM)
why suspended ah? any idea?
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Barang tak boleh masuk US.

If their shares fall immediately today, will be a bloodbath. But Bursa did correct thing, suspend for a while. RESUME AT 3.30PM.

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Hmm... Harta and Supermax still standing strong now....
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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jul 16 2020, 03:13 PM)
Gloves rebounding now
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Wait till 3.30 when TG resumes. Then see how the "rebound" is.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 16 2020, 02:48 PM)
end of gloves run?
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I won't say that. It's only TG affected - once US allows them in again, their shares will naik like wildfire.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jul 16 2020, 02:48 PM)
Got difference? Later 3.30pm open also will drop, no?
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A lot can happen in an hour. Reading of TG announcement - "min 2 weeks resolved" - might change many of those who bought low's minds. If not, they pull the plug, and total free for all in KLSE.
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QUOTE(silverwave @ Jul 16 2020, 03:18 PM)
this is scary, since all the others are tailing along
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Kossan seems hit hardest, as most of the share owners are individuals. The TG issue really spooked them kau-kau it seems. But good then - I can buy again.
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post Jul 16 2020, 03:23 PM

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To highlight just how "big" TG is, most of the blue chips are in red now.....
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It's raining very heavily and dark now.... like KLSE currently...

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