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Bendan[520]
post Nov 13 2020, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 13 2020, 11:24 AM)
Gloves share price is about 6 months ahead of its quarterly eps. The random multiplier would be it's p.e.
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Its so annoying when glove companies report crazy earnings yet price x jalan..

Someone dont let it shoot up. Or the current share price already priced in the earnings?

I sense big pullback + sentiment..
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post Nov 13 2020, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 13 2020, 03:25 PM)
To drum up share price, that's all.
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Still very speculative stock, later those big sharks decided not to invest.. game over.
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post Nov 13 2020, 04:46 PM

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Feel very eager to sell opensys. This fundamentals good but seriously slow moving counter, it has been almost 2 months of sideways
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post Nov 16 2020, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 16 2020, 12:56 PM)
The market is in red today, in particular glove stocks.

As long as we control our entry price and don't play with "scared" money, there is nothing to worry about.

When we play with "scared money", we are not in the driving seat. Our broker or remisier are the drivers. We are just the passengers.

For e.g. if we are buying stocks using a margin account now. What if Careplus and Supermax drop another -30% this week? If we believe in the fundamental, we will top up and reap the benefits later when they rebound. But if we are buying the shares with a margin account, our broker will decide the selling price for us when we can't afford to top up.

Even a trailing stop loss order will not save us when there is a meltdown. That is why I don't believe in margin trading. Because human greed has no limits. We only see the potential profit but we ignore the potential risk. The potential losses are horrendous. I have seen it happen to my colleague in March 2020. He lost about RM1.2 million from his margin account. He had to withdraw his EPF money to pay for it. His retirement plans are in ruin now.
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Glove sector, no sign of buyers right now, I wouldn't even touch it. So dangerous.. even if I have holding power.. anytime can crash.
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post Nov 16 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Nov 16 2020, 03:05 PM)
I have a bit of gloves, planning to hold until June 2021, which I think ASPs would only start dropping thereafter.  I nibbled some Harta today, thinking I got at reasonable price of RM14.70. Mana tau, now bigger sales.  sweat.gif
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Dont blindly buy and hold.. there's a reason why SUPERMX remain around RM1++ pre-covid even though fundamentals are very strong.. each time pandemic is over the prices will go down, but this time, it is already at the end stages of the pandemic. Vaccine news popping out everywhere.

Invest carefully.
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post Nov 16 2020, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Nov 16 2020, 03:23 PM)
News remains as news. Numbers of cases are climbing,that’s fact. Get it right man.
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Superb QR report from all gloves company, from Q1-Q4 yet price dont jump up..

Number of cases climbing yes.. nobody can say no to that.

What we can do is time will tell, see how this will play out. If youre holding and it rocketed up soon, then congrats to you.

I just warn others to invest carefully only..
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post Nov 16 2020, 03:42 PM

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anyone collect JFTECH?
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post Nov 16 2020, 04:12 PM

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Seeing everybody so enthusiastic in gloves counters..

Bola kecut like me stay sidelines..

Goodluck avybadi!
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post Nov 16 2020, 04:34 PM

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Aiks.. seeing my tech stocks pullback.. seems so ache..

I'm too used to the explosive growth of gloves back then.


PS, heartache last week bought CIMB @ 3.20 but decided to sell to buffer for other counters.. now it went up 30% console.gif

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post Nov 17 2020, 09:45 AM

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Yesterday everyone is happily buying in batches..
as I’ve said, now is not the time and trend to buy gloves.. wait until the storm calms only buy.. no long white no buy..

Now so many emotional posters
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post Nov 17 2020, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Nov 17 2020, 09:54 AM)
this time different la that time different la etc etc

simple question la...vaccine entered ur body edi mou? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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This time different cause u can see shift in trend.. recovery stocks start running and doing up d. So it’s different that last time
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post Nov 17 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Nov 17 2020, 10:02 AM)
aiya then go ahead continue bbbbbb bank stocks lo laugh.gif
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Haha did u took some positions in gloves? If you’re so adamant, time we tell. I wanna see how this play out as well cause I wanna intraday gloves when buyers step back in.

Good luck to you

Gloves is not about fundamentals and technicals anymore, it’s about sentiment
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post Nov 17 2020, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 17 2020, 10:28 AM)
Good morning folks.

History repeats itself. Washing machine on turbo mode in the morning for glove stocks.

Sold HEVEA and JHM this morning for a profit. HEVEA for about +8% and JHM for about +20.22%. 

Only managed to sell part of Latitud for a slight loss. No buyer for the remaining stocks.  sad.gif

Topped up Careplus, Top Glove, Supermax and Kossan.

Opened back small counters in Adventa, Comfort, Esceram, Ruberex and HLT.

Sekian laporan saya.
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Wow, in the mean time I no balls stay at sideline
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post Nov 17 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Nov 17 2020, 02:03 PM)
TG , SPMX , RB , CP

Dropped all four of them. Yeah that was my feeling too , but it isn't looking nice man.

News after news of the vaccine , and all big 4s are taking the brunt of it. Its all about sentiment , no one cares if there's good fundamentals or anything.

Anyways the reason I dropped out was mostly because I bought them at terribly high prices  bangwall.gif  , so the possibility of me recouping those losses are very minimal. Might as well try different counters than to pray every 9am morning and cry every time the market closes.

I bought the 12 even though there's so many 'problems' lol.
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You finally came to your senses.. fundamentals or not, we'll see in the long run, but right now it is all about sentiment play, heck even technical failed!


U should have cutloss earlier days ago like how I did with RM12,000 loss, rather than average down.. if I didnt cut back then, I think I'll be crying that all my capital gone just like that.

Wait till buyers step back in only buy
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post Nov 17 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Nov 17 2020, 02:07 PM)
From technical analysis POV, I think there will be a final rebound sometime in the near future before people start moving on from gloves.
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RSI and MACD shows that entry point is near, within this 2 days heck maybe can enter later after lunch if you dare.


But I no balls this round, as I see sentiment shift to recovery stocks, smart money gone already, retailers are just playing among themselves.

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post Nov 17 2020, 03:36 PM

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the rebound now so nice for intraday traders..
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post Nov 17 2020, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Nov 17 2020, 03:36 PM)
this time different, vaccine got breakthrough, recovery stocks rise, game over for gloves

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I thought just now you said still got chance?
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post Nov 17 2020, 03:51 PM

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looks like tech is recovering.. some of my counters green already..
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post Nov 17 2020, 03:58 PM

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Wow such a nice technical rebound.. as predicted by RSI...

Still wanna observe the following week
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post Nov 17 2020, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Nov 17 2020, 04:09 PM)
Wow gloves sudden slide, crawling back again.
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Thats why it is a technical rebound.. because of RSI


now we need to look out if it closes green or red.. if red downtrend continues.. till rsi bottomed out.

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