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Boon3
post Dec 30 2020, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 04:49 PM)
There was that domino effect once the RM 6 level is breached that we spoke of yesterday. Mass selldown at 4.42pm which kicked it down just below RM 6, which looks to have triggered more selldowns. Think that was a good RM 15 - 20 mil pressure in the final minutes.
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That's the stock the old old fart is active in ........ be extremely careful..... his usage of margin is massive.........



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post Dec 30 2020, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 04:54 PM)
That's the stock the old old fart is active in ........ be extremely careful..... his usage of margin is massive.........
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Tmr high volume selldown in the morning to break 5.96 support.
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post Dec 30 2020, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Dec 30 2020, 04:54 PM)
Tmr morning got show to see on gloves d.. ready your bullet to average down again
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Looks like our morning coffee 9am entertainment is on tomorrow.
Unless Supermax takes a page out of TG book and suspend for 1 hour.

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 04:54 PM)
That's the stock the old old fart is active in ........ be extremely careful..... his usage of margin is massive.........
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The old old fart probably got a margin call today.
Whichever counter he goes to, I'm definitely not there.
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:11 PM

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Inari last min break the 2.8x barrier. This one is consider one of the bigger and more stable tech counter with epf participations.

If inari is doing well probably ASE is doing well then Mi should also do well haha.
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 04:07 PM)
... well... and why is that so? That's because of the ciggie tax the govt raises causes companies like BAT to raise their prices.... At those prices, it was natural a chunk chose to find the alternate source...

anyway... bottom line for BAT is .... profit is declining so rapidly and so is the dividends.
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As I said, the main culprit is illegal trade. Even before the ciggy tax was raised, illegal trade has always been the problem. If the govt wants more money they should nip the problem in the bud. Govt raise ciggy tax, BAT just shut down their factory in PJ and rely on import from Indonesia instead. It's cheaper to import. So who's at the losing end?

PS: My wife work for BAT Malaysia an even though profit is declining, staff paycheck is getting fatter and fatter.
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 30 2020, 05:11 PM)
Inari last min break the 2.8x barrier. This one is consider one of the bigger and more stable tech counter with epf participations.

If inari is doing well probably ASE is doing well then Mi should also do well haha.
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I got into INARI when it broke over the resistance yesterday. Looks like it's standing strong.
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Dec 30 2020, 03:25 PM)
Ya if only you bought

TSLA, AMZN, GOOGLE,AAPL, MICROSFT and SHOPIFY.
TGLOV and SUPERMX is no TSLA and AMZON.

Few years down the road, your dividends can't cover your loss of capital when TG back to pre-covid levels..
No point debating IMO, see the charts and what they're telling us?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 03:35 PM)
In the long term... dividends won't help a single bit if the stock business is declining.

Best example BAT in 2015. BAT was trading at a very high price then. About 60 bucks.
If ALEE had simply buy BAT in 2015, and using the assumption that dividends will payback the losses (BAT is known for its dividends, even back in 2015) ....
do you think ALEE can recover the losses?
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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 30 2020, 03:36 PM)
Good counter in aspect of what?
Tech counter also kena pump and dump in bursa.
Bursa only can stick to defensive stock  bank or utiliity stock like tM (GLC/ monopoly company)

Don't hope bursa stock got growth.
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QUOTE(wayton @ Dec 30 2020, 03:38 PM)
Good counter also need to enter at right price.

Problem is current price is 300%, 500% higher compared to 9 months ago.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 04:16 PM)
I like to test out suggestions.

For example, your statement.... is so, so common.
One hears it all the time.

Let me show you BAT.

Assume one just buy la. Never sell and wasn't afraid cos one is taught that in the long term dividends will help the investor recover from their cincai buy.

Right?

So in 2015. Buy at 60 bucks.

The dividends since then....

2015 -- 312.00
2016 -- 278.00
2017 -- 169.00
2018 -- 155.00
2019 -- 118.00
2020 -- 89.00

That's 1121.00 or RM11,210.00 in dividends

Impressive dividends.

But the purchase price is 60 bucks.
Current price of BAT? RM14.00

Loss = 60 - 11.21 - 14 = 34.79

A loss of 34,790.00 !!!!
( btw the lowest price recently for BAT was 9.26!)
6 years of holding ..... and hoping dividends will help cover losses ___________________________
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Thanks for clarifying that few good companies here and most nvestments should be short to medium term for capital gains.

More scrutinisng need to be done
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 30 2020, 05:21 PM)
Thanks for clarifying that few good companies here and most nvestments should be short to medium term for capital gains.

More scrutinisng need to be done
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Iceman : bursa is common pump and dump only
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:23 PM

OK!
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 30 2020, 05:23 PM)
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Tomorrow will have better deal. Wait for tmr morning see.
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 30 2020, 04:44 PM)
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 04:49 PM)
There was that domino effect once the RM 6 level is breached that we spoke of yesterday. Mass selldown at 4.42pm which kicked it down just below RM 6, which looks to have triggered more selldowns. Think that was a good RM 15 - 20 mil pressure in the final minutes.
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Expect interesting opening tomorrow.

QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 30 2020, 04:52 PM)
Time to keep long term
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Mean flipping turned sour.

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 30 2020, 05:22 PM)
Iceman : bursa is common pump and dump only
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If don't pump, retailers don't chase.

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post Dec 30 2020, 05:47 PM

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post Dec 30 2020, 05:58 PM

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That supermax show.. Damn. Anybody snagged at 5.9?!:lol:
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 04:59 PM)
Looks like our morning coffee 9am entertainment is on tomorrow.
Unless Supermax takes a page out of TG book and suspend for 1 hour.
The old old fart probably got a margin call today.
Whichever counter he goes to, I'm definitely not there.
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I will have my burger and french fries ready 15 mins before market close tmr.
Gonna see what's going happen at the end of year 2020. devil.gif
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 30 2020, 05:58 PM)
That supermax show.. Damn. Anybody snagged at 5.9?!:lol:
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I hope it goes lower tomorrow
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(zell80 @ Dec 30 2020, 05:47 PM)
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ching Do @ Dec 30 2020, 05:50 PM)
what's the difference between normal stock and warrant?
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for those who need to ask, the earlier will lose your pants, the later underware.
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 30 2020, 05:16 PM)
I got into INARI when it broke over the resistance yesterday. Looks like it's standing strong.
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Sold inari when it broke 2.58 😭

But the proceed went to D&O and greatech 🙃
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post Dec 30 2020, 06:10 PM

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24 dec, EPF...

buy and sell, net still 5.109% in TG.
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3117695

still 5.808% in harta.
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3117709

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