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post Nov 15 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 15 2021, 12:48 PM)
from the link...

In a bourse filing, the group said the placement will involve the issuance of 38.5 million new shares, representing 3.2% of the company's total issued shares.

It said the issue price of the placement shares will be fixed at a date to be determined later.

Based on the illustrative issue price of RM5.33 per placement share, the exercise is expected to raise gross proceeds of RM205.2 million.
..... that explains a lot, eh billy?

pressed down your saham so that they can fix a lower placement....
faster go complain.................  devil.gif
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Complain in klsescreener ah? Later I kena sue laugh.gif

I cabut dah

Peanut

Butter

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Pp for inari works well though

Do, need to see see still

Lai ada apa coconut lagi? laugh.gif

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post Nov 15 2021, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 15 2021, 10:13 AM)
Always leave some money on the table as offering to the Bursa God to avoid misfortune.  biggrin.gif
My exit strategy.
Was thinking of rolling the fresh funds into my beaten down China portfolio.
But a friend just dropped a recommendation to me so doing some homework if if I want to take a short term punt on these before going to China. Penang based companies.

Long term, I wanna be Da Ge's friend.
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Beijing stock exchange starts today with smalls pools of stocks, with mixed performance and focus is on smes.

Hk, china seems consolidating at the bottom.

Gonna avg in huge amount?
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post Nov 16 2021, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 09:09 AM)
Got.... ur UWC turned fugly yesterday, eh?

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super ugly cry.gif

once it breached 5.95 i lari d mega_shok.gif

looks like the qr's not gonna be pretty

gonna monitor still

lai

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post Nov 16 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 10:17 AM)
Super scared get caught by a sneeky shake eh? tongue.gif
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It regains its ground and if things turn out to be alright, here I come.

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You are the operator pouring water on me is it?

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post Nov 16 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 12:19 PM)
this kinda of important mah of you want to be really good in trading...

for example...

if you keep getting frequent shakeouts/fakeouts, how la... how to prevent this from happening....
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Turn to a longer timeframe and things will smooth themselves out.

Will monitor till qr comes out.

The shakeout is a bit too steep.for my taste. As long as it doesn't breach my price, I'm ok to sit tight. If I don't like it, I'm gone first and see how.

Have to control a bit on the risk part though.

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post Nov 16 2021, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 01:04 PM)
What was your target in this trade?
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edit, 6.5

the buying thesis was chart looks fine, i like the business albeit the possible mco slowing the biz

expansion was a bonus

monitor it for a while now and was thinking that it should be quite safe above 5.95 (stop loss)

entered around 6.1 and it was fine

although the vol isn't that much for the drop

but limiting the possible draw down is what i do

although the frequent cuts slowly rolling into something big is real hence i really do limit the trades

the more i do, the more possible wrongs i might get

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blue entry, red exit (it might be too sensitive though, contradicting with 'dont lose money')

did think to operate in such way and buy a bit more when it gets near the line

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better dont

hence it's in my watchlist to wait for a uturn

anyway to improve this in the future?

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post Nov 16 2021, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Nov 16 2021, 01:20 PM)
edit, 6.5

the buying thesis was chart looks fine, i like the business albeit the possible mco slowing the biz

expansion was a bonus

monitor it for a while now and was thinking that it should be quite safe above 5.95 (stop loss)

entered around 6.1 and it was fine

although the vol isn't that much for the drop

but limiting the possible draw down is what i do

although the frequent cuts slowly rolling into something big is real hence i really do limit the trades

the more i do, the more possible wrongs i might get

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blue entry, red exit (it might be too sensitive though, contradicting with 'dont lose money') - typical buy high sell low  laugh.gif

did think to operate in such way and buy a bit more when it gets near the line

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better dont

hence it's in my watchlist to wait for a uturn

anyway to improve this in the future?
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post Nov 16 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 01:49 PM)
What helps the most ...... ie the other important question is ..... 'where's the beef?'

That helps the most ...

if according to your game plan here ... you can see .... it's like taking big money to try sembilih the ayam!

insist on a bigger target!

the last time I traded UWC, I immediately like what I saw in the cash flow...
and straight away, I felt that this was a play where I can easily get at least a one bagger.

by knowing that I can get a big payday if I sat on the stock, I was pretty okay if and when shakeouts happen (ah.. still got to be careful)
next... the current trend...

look at the current trend...
it is actually building momentum very nicely...
but for me, I will address 'when' did this start...
and for this one...
look at the purple trend line that you managed to draw ....
that was a good couple of months back yes?

now if I put the meat prospective here.... ie... 'ur' 6.50...
then ....  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif 

doesn't really sound terribly sexy yes?
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i'll admit valuation is definitely my weak point

tried finding intrinsic value via complex calculation, charts, pe, peg but all to no avail

hence the tp thing is more likely a psychological guesstimation for ourselves

however, earnings can be made via a rough calculation though hence that's the thing i'm looking at

6.5 is the first barrier and if things work out great, why not 7.36, and it will take time for sure

some techs are consolidating well but they might still have some gas going into 22

here's why sitting tight works (not tight enough for me though)

i owned inari and kept topping up since last year

managed to bag well before i sold it off thinking that it might need to chill

in fact it did because of the cool down/tapering news came out since early this year (nasdaw took a beating too)

it's been a year and we still talk about tapering

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topped up twice and got shaken out in red thinking that it might get exhausted

didn't look back afterwards

and now, it's all time high again

if i were to sit tight and well, top up accordingly without looking left and right

i'd have ended up much better than where i am now

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post Nov 16 2021, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 16 2021, 02:33 PM)
eh? don't get into stuff like 'intrinsic value' laaa.... cos that's the worst thing you can do cause it's extremely dizzy since it's based on way too many assumptions which basically multiples on itself over and over again....

have a simplistic but realistic valuations would be much better...

for example .... take UWC... ask yourself.... is 400 million a year profits achievable? say in a year or two? if can... then draw up a simple target price based on how much you think the stock should be worth.... then work from there.... etc etc
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i'll admit valuation is definitely my weak point

tried finding intrinsic value via complex calculation, charts, pe, peg but all to no avail

hence the tp thing is more likely a psychological guesstimation for ourselves

however, earnings can be made via a rough calculation though hence that's the thing i'm looking at


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i complicated stuffs too much before this

ok la slowly getting better, but not good enough, gonna add oil a bit

if only

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post Nov 18 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 18 2021, 12:54 PM)
Look at this one... a good example on 2 bottom....

as you know, the right play at a double B is to buy once the stock trade breaks higher once the 'W' is formed....

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see the W...

so a breakout will be around 655... on the 9/11 (not so ong date... tongue.gif)

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so one could buy at the breakout ya...

and viola.... the breakout turns out to be false...!!!!  rolleyes.gif

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better cut, yes?

clearly a false breakout... a tipu one....

and if one die die hard neck..... see below.....

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end story!
p/s see? breakout plays which used to work perfectly last year... all tak boleh now....
the importance to recognize this issue is important ya...  thumbsup.gif
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ya recognizing the overall market sentiment is important, unless one is able to use all kind of different skills in various markets

but that usually means gg

more trades, more wrongs laugh.gif

QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 18 2021, 04:42 PM)
My take on metaverse is that the best bet to get mass adoption is to make the unreal as real as possible.

This is the same design concept by apple. To make the touch screen as intuitive as possible, and their conlusion is use your fingers instead of stylus and voila mass touch screen device adoptions.
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that's the first step towards the simulation hypothesis

let how we blur the line of physical or digital world via internet and smartphones

metaverse takes it a bit further into the realm of mixed reality be it ar or vr, or even implants

mass adoption might take years

but once we go there, there's no way back like how internet is necessity now

web3?

or maybe this is just a huge bubble

but i do think that we will eventually get there

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post Nov 19 2021, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 19 2021, 04:05 PM)
see billy?

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and thanks to some coconut shake... the stock is now back to where it was...  doh.gif  laugh.gif
same old smelly ......  laugh.gif  puke.gif
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counters in bursa is always known as same old many times right

earnings are out soon and who knows maybe there's some leakage as well

vol is not that convincing though

if earning can get above 30m or better, 35m

above 6 baru boleh kot

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post Nov 20 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 19 2021, 05:09 PM)
Wait hor.... First thing first.... I have no interest in this stock.

Yup... zero stock holdings laugh.gif

Some read my posts and some can think macam macam... laugh.gif

Okay?

Now... Obviously....no volume.

That much is obvious. tongue.gif

Which comes to a teaching from Mr. Tape Reader.

If volume come... then how? React and chase? Which will be something like uwc, yes? Reacting on breakout?

Which as seen also in Krono... it just doesn't work...

And the opposite might be better. Anticipation. Here in Do case...stock suddenly gave way....which was quickly followed by a placement news.. blah blah blah...and from this perspective... the stock by logical reasoning, should return back to where it was....

And so it did, YES?

Which means if you the trader has anticipated this movement, wasn't this a fast easy way for a fast clean screw?
But then you know me... I don't favour such trading....
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laugh.gif who think macam macam? did someone follow your analysis before? hahahha

reacting to breakout IS not working right now, taking the opposite side like picking up near trendline is not really something i'm comfortable with

but hey, my paper trading does tell me that it works but again

not entirely comfortable with how the sentiment is

so, jangan buat apa2

even in the us things are not working great for small to mid caps while large caps shining real bright

breakout works fine there though

again

more trades

more wrongs

sit diam diam forget password yawn.gif

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let's look at a company which you dislike so much

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seems like many still supporting kaw kaw but one long wick doesnt mean anything

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all i know is my friends are all angry with him ranting.gif
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post Nov 20 2021, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2021, 09:53 AM)
It went down a lot because it announces its rights issue ex date mah...... 

Just wrote couple of times on it too ....  doh.gif
which means whoever that is currently holding onto the stock will HAVE to fork out more money..... to rescue AA ....
some will subscribe to the rights....

but I do suspect many are holding AA with cost over rm 2.... and the question for them, besides where the deal makes sense, is do they have the money to top up? Times like this, there will be many who does not want to pump in money to a company which is in a terrible financial situation of their own doing.

if no... they can sell the rights to rights issue and salvage back some money.
DISLIKE? lol ... the plain fact is the company is in this terrible mess of their own doing. It's nothing to do with Covid. Covid merely exposed their ugly shit. whistling.gif

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yaya the right issues

but the wick itself is almost 8% ehh laugh.gif

high gearing issues always plague airlines

the narrative was 'DA BEST' low cost carrier

many still have faith albeit the debt and of course, tony himself lol

like how brandson and saylor

brand is important

and jeez AA, my back hurts so much

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another comeback of once well-loved stock?

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post Nov 20 2021, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2021, 10:47 AM)
Once loved????

????

Earnings is erratic.... and if market bodoh bodoh focus on Q-Q earnings... the stock is gonna...............
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super erratic in fact

have been going on downhill since 2016

and bodoh bodoh things happen a lot

take popcorns and watch

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but their trucks, honestly it's nice though
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post Nov 23 2021, 11:54 AM

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looks like the labor market in malaysia finally got their attention ehh

palm oil, rubber gloves, tyres, and more to come

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market...actices-2687565
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 26 2021, 04:11 PM)
tbh .... at 52 sen, for me, it doesn't look that bad of a bet (just not my style of play) ....

but for what's it worth... I will put it as buy in my 555 book.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
hey billy ... nah....  I said it.... a 555 bet just to test out 'special incidents' play ....  devil.gif  devil.gif  )

p/s .... Billy... remember.... I win/lose no money one  devil.gif
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well tongue.gif

it's as easy to fall or fly

it all goes back to the conviction laugh.gif

the leakage is most likely well known on those daigor's side before this

and now, many 'value' traders/investors saw the change to buy

'black friday' sell mah

the story goes

'it's cheap and rebound will come soon because labour issues can be easily solved'

or when it doesnt rebound right away

'no worries i've got time and it will eventually come back, i'm investing long term with this company and daily price movement doesnt move my belief'

some said this is arguing with the tape

some said this is belief

see how gloves cheer laugh.gif

super strong ehh friday, let's see whether it's a real rebound, or a dead cat rebound

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 09:36 AM)
LOL!!!

But it was easy peasy money for those who speculated on Friday...  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wayton @ Nov 29 2021, 09:43 AM)
For mRNA vaccine, it can be tweaked quite fast to have antibody that match against the new variant spike protein sequence.
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Ya hence it's a panic sell though or maybe it's just a reason to sell.

But it also means, how many shots we need in a year in the future? Lol
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Howdy guys! Apahal ni? Glove revives the thread! rclxm9.gif


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post Dec 1 2021, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 1 2021, 10:25 AM)
... and gloves red red...  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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omicron said selling pressure down, bull flag forming, BUY!

on paper

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 1 2021, 11:06 AM)
I'm in the sit tight and blow water club too.
Wrong time to sell, and I just sent most of my free funds in China's direction so can't load up on Bursa.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/17/ray-dalios-...china-fund.html

almost all ADRs and china related stocks really puke.gif

but the funds keep on going there laugh.gif

look at the big ones

XPEV is thriving though

my KWEB rclxub.gif

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