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post Jun 23 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Jun 23 2020, 01:45 PM)
At 16 something per share and dividend is low
Might as well use the public bank capital gain to cover trading fee for both shares then wait for Maybank dividend brows.gif
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Good point. I am still monitoring the Maybank stock. Waiting for opportunities to top up.

QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jun 23 2020, 02:37 PM)
Well, when you earned about 2k of value, wouldn't you sell them too?  nod.gif
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Depends. Banking stocks are usually dividend stocks or slow growers. If you manage to buy a banking stock at a low price with a good dividend pay out, then this is double happiness. rclxms.gif

Long term value investors will keep them. Short term traders will sell them for a profit. No right or wrong approach.
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post Jun 24 2020, 10:53 AM

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Topping up Top Glove stocks cautiously. My average price now is RM14.993.
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post Jun 24 2020, 12:01 PM

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Sold off SKPres for a small profit.

Entered Scientx.
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post Jun 25 2020, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jun 25 2020, 09:22 PM)
Okay. Now that's really attractive.
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Don’t do it bro. BAT is on a downtrend. You can re-visit it when it drops to RM10.
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post Jun 25 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 25 2020, 05:44 PM)
#ddtg are more powerful.
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DDTG = Die Die Top Glove?
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post Jun 26 2020, 07:03 PM

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Looking for a high dividend stock with good fundamental?

Have a look at Lii Hen. But please understand the nature of the business and the risk in the current climate.
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post Jun 29 2020, 10:02 AM

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Whether the market is doing well or not can be judged by the number of posts appearing in this thread.

The number of posts is slowly decreasing...this means that the market is either trading sideways or is slowly sinking...
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post Jun 29 2020, 05:06 PM

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Now how? All the glove stocks rallied today. Tomorrow the retail traders will rush in because of FOMO. Buy high and sell higher.

Then tomorrow afternoon or the day after that the price will drop again. Some retail traders will be trapped. The price will drift lower and lower. Then some retail traders will be forced to cut loss.

And the cycle repeats itself again. Welcome to the stock market! smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2020, 09:24 PM

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I am sitting at the sideline and eating pop corn. 😃
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:30 AM

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Good morning folks.

I think it is time for the glove stocks to undergo a healthy correction. It may not happen today or tomorrow but it should happen soon. In the meantime, the musical chair continues...

As Peter Lynch once said, it is time to exit the market when your dentist, your grandmother and your neighbour's dog start boasting about how much money they have made from the stock market.

Meanwhile, I am still eating my popcorn. smile.gif
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 8 2020, 09:20 AM)
Well, I got a meeting coming up - hopefully by then see some greens.

BTW, currently RCE Cap is rising.... that's interesting.
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I am not sure what is brewing in RCE Cap apart from the fact that the ex-date for dividend payment is on 15th July 2020.

My unrealised profit for this stock is currently about RM3000. Not a lot compared to my previous profits made from the glove counters but still respectable.
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post Jul 9 2020, 10:47 AM

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Good morning folks.

I have a bit of time this morning. So, I decided to sai lang all the bank counters. See how it goes. smile.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:34 AM)
Nice, you have been on the sidelines for awhile right ?
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Yes, you are right.

In early June, I made a killing from the glove stocks in just a few days. I thought I was the next Warren Buffett. biggrin.gif

Alas, my illusion was shattered. After that, I lost 2 rounds buying glove stocks. But I still maintained a respectable profit from the first round. That was when I decided that the game was over for me to 'goreng' the glove stocks. Plus the MCO was over and work was starting to build up again in the office. No time for me to monitor the computer screen for the glove stock prices anymore.

So I sat on a pile of cash and ate popcorn reading the comments in this forum.

Today, I have itchy finger syndrome and decided to buy 5 different bank counters. Let's see how it goes. rclxms.gif

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post Jul 9 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jul 9 2020, 11:23 AM)
Wise choice brother, the banks are carrying the market again.

I just sailang some selected bank counters recently after studying the fundamentals and the historical patterns. To me, banks are still much safer than gloves in the long run.
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Yes, the bank counters are OK for now. But the acid test will be from September onwards unless the moratorium is extended. My feeling is that the banks will extend the moratorium selectively especially for the B40 group. Why risk increasing the NPL? The banks have said that the moratorium will not hurt their profit margin (presumably since interest is still running on the bank loans) but it may impact their cash flow.

See for e.g. https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...loan-moratorium

"Banking analysts say that generally, a moratorium does not really affect the profitability of a bank, but it may impact their cashflow. This in turn is due to the change in financing terms and because of this change, there could be a one-off loss for banks.

This is obviously not favourable to any lender.

Malayan Banking Bhd (Maybank) has put this loss at RM1bil, which it says will be recognised come the second quarter of its current financial year ending Dec 31."


So, do watch out when buying banking stocks. Some banking stocks may turn out to be 'risky' after all.
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post Jul 9 2020, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 9 2020, 12:05 PM)
Let me guess.

Maybank, Ambank, CIMB, Allianz and RHB?
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Your guess is 50% accurate.

I tikam AmBank, BIMB, HL Bank, HLFG and RHB this morning.

Thus far, AmBank is leading the pack. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 9 2020, 12:19 PM

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You guys really have balls of steel to continue chasing the glove stocks.

I put back my balls in the freezer already. Old age. My heart cannot take it.
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post Jul 12 2020, 12:34 PM

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Please exercise some caution guys.

Only trade and chase the glove stocks with money that you can afford to lose 100%. Don’t take advance money from your credit card, personal loan or use the margin facility to chase.

When the price correction comes, it will be spectacular. It only takes one rumour of a vaccine coming soon for Covid-19 and this will start the panic selling.

I know I am being a party pooper. But I am sweating on your behalf after seeing so many young investors in this forum chasing the glove stocks. What goes up must come down eventually. 😅
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post Jul 12 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(infested_ysy @ Jul 12 2020, 12:37 PM)
Wasn't Topglove down and stuck at RM15 a week or two before due to some rumors of a covid vaccine working?
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Yes, it did. And the stock price of Top Glove even fell initially in spite of its spectacular QR.
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post Jul 12 2020, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Jul 12 2020, 09:37 PM)
Only trade and chase the glove stocks with money that you can afford to lose 100%???

100%??
you mean gloves stock will go bankrupt????

why such illogical comment????
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It is a figure of speech.

It means trading stocks with money that we can afford to lose completely without suffering serious financial consequences.

Imagine trading with money that we will need in the next 2 months or so. Eg, trading using our emergency fund or the money that is meant to pay the housing loan and car loan in September once the moratorium ends.

What if the share market suddenly corrects itself and the stocks that we are holding drops 20% or more?

So what do we do now? Cut loss? But we need the money to pay the loans..so how?
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post Jul 13 2020, 10:16 AM

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Good morning folks.

Kenanga has raised the target price of glove stocks as follows:

1. Top Glove TP to RM32
2. Supermax TP to RM17.10
3. Hartalega TP to RM22.30

Everyone in this forum seems to be buying glove stocks. So, who are the sellers??? confused.gif

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