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post Sep 2 2020, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 2 2020, 10:09 PM)
I re-entered JCY just before closing today. It retraced back from +24% to +14%.

This will either end beautifully tomorrow morning or become a train wreck. Be prepared to cut loss at -10%.
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The retracing part is the one which makes me a bit sceptical but on the other hand, Kenanga gives a TP of 1.35 tongue.gif

From the chart, it has happened before last month and it continued to drop or remain stagnant till today.
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post Sep 3 2020, 09:28 AM

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Just got TG but its hovering around 9.10+ now.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 3 2020, 09:46 AM)
On one hand you're holding a share which is worth 15k+ per lot. On the other is one which is now only 9+, with potential of going up to 12+ in next 2 days, and have potentially excellent QR report + US Customs ban removal on the horizon. Which one will ppl choose?

Sadly, Harta "killed" itself without the split thingy. Kossan is doing so, albeit slightly late.
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QR report - out on 17th, the US ban removal, is there a date for it?
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post Sep 3 2020, 10:59 AM

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Harta is really dropping like mad
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 3 2020, 11:43 AM)
This is developing into a nightmarish scenario, especially gloves and banks. Yesterday rally up.... suddenly today back down to where it all begin
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I'm guessing more outflow of money today vs yesterday
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 3 2020, 11:56 AM)
My lessons in stock trading and from this forum...

1.  Averaging down only works if you are a value investor. Even then we have to analyse the fundamental of the company carefully to see if it is earning profit to justify averaging down. If the company is suffering losses and the whole industry is suffering, then averaging down could be a very expensive lesson. I learned this the hard way. My losses from averaging down a few years ago were huge...well at least by my standard they were huge.

Some forumers say that averaging down only works for unit trusts where we are buying a basket of shares.

2.  Averaging down is a big no no for traders. We cut loss at -10% or at whatever amount that we are comfortable with. I tried averaging down with Harta recently. I treated it as a hybrid investment (both trading and value investment). I suffered losses. Harta was like a bottomless pit. But having said that, averaging down worked with Top Glove, Supermax and Kossan at that time. Good return from there.

3.  Cutting losses. This is painful but sometimes necessary. We refuse to cut loss even when we suffer 5 figure or 6 figure losses. Part of the reason is because we are in denial mode. Ego problem. How can our "superb" trading skills or investment skills be wrong??? Well, Mr. Market doesn't care. I have been there as well.

Capital preservation is paramount. Once your capital is gone, you are out of the game. Holding on to a blood red portfolio also denies you the opportunity to buy other better stocks. Better to lick your wounds and live to fight another day. A cliché I know.

I am just sharing my view. Please don't get offended whether you are currently holding banking stocks, glove stocks, penny stocks, etc which is suffering losses  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for sharing this, number 3 sounds so much like me tongue.gif

It's the lost of opportunity while trying to avoid losses.
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post Sep 3 2020, 03:22 PM

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Klse is -22 already, really bad today
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 3 2020, 08:18 PM)
finally after ages, i wonder what will be the price tomorrow biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(immobile @ Sep 3 2020, 08:50 PM)
wow haha hopefully some big boss/sharks can pump to 50 cents  rclxms.gif
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Haha i hope more than that tongue.gif
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:23 PM

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DJI is super red at -776 now
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post Sep 4 2020, 10:10 AM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hart...e-falls-further

For those having Harta/planning to get it
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post Sep 4 2020, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 4 2020, 10:14 AM)
Bloomberg data indicates that Hartalega has price to earnings (P/E) ratio of 83.44 times.

Is this p/e sustainable?
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Hard to say, have to wait for the next QR
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post Sep 4 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 4 2020, 10:30 AM)
While you put this in, Hartalega got into the greens now.....  nod.gif
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Haha, i didn't notice that biggrin.gif

QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 4 2020, 10:32 AM)
QR needs to be good enough to make PE to 17x. Else, should continue to fall.
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Totally agree.
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post Sep 4 2020, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 4 2020, 10:56 AM)
theberry what was yesterday's buying and selling by retailers, local institution and foreign again?
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Retail biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Sep 4 2020, 11:10 AM)
How do you check this up?
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pickastock website, under market, then market participation
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post Sep 4 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Sep 4 2020, 03:54 PM)
K1 no limit up lulz
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don't hope too much on this counter, even a bit profit just take and leave biggrin.gif
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post Sep 8 2020, 09:42 AM

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Looks like it's going to be another quiet day for the stocks
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post Sep 8 2020, 02:37 PM

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it's just sliding downwards
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Seems like one round of action wasn't enough, now round 2 biggrin.gif
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tenaga also up a lot

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