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Vanguard 2015
post Jun 12 2020, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 12 2020, 03:25 PM)
find any of cherroy's post and click show post by this member only
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Thanks buddy. I found the post.
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post Jun 12 2020, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 19 2020, 12:32 PM)
Mr Market has no mercy. It's job is to push the price of the stocks higher and higher and lure unsuspecting investors in. The herd will rush in because of FOMO mentality. Then the stocks may gradually or suddenly decline in value.

If we ignore the fundamental and valuation of a stock and buy without any margin of safety, then we will get burned when things go south.

It is even worse for goreng stocks when the syndicates or sharks start unloading the stocks.

The question is what is an investor's/trader's exit plan when things go south?

(1) Those with deep pockets will say "I will average down the costs". In the current market, I don't think that is a good idea.

(2) Those with holding power will say "I will wait and see  the next QR results".

(3) Those with an exit plan will say "I will cut loss not matter what once my losses hit -10% or -15%".

(4) Those playing contra with no money to settle at T+2 has no option. They will be forced to sell at T+2 even though the stock may recover a few days, weeks or months later.

So, which category do we fall under? Decisions...decisions...
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post Jun 12 2020, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 19 2020, 02:09 PM)
1) Average down is always a bad idea, especially for those holding on so called "goreng" stock. It may like digging a bigger hole only.

2) Goreng sentiment is not waiting for those result, goreng is about market sentiment, and how syndicate willing to play along. FOMO on goreng stock should be quick in quick out.
A lot of people made mistake on this, treat goreng stocks as long term holding.

3) This is actually a better strategy, as once the goreng is over, then it is over. It is much better than option 1 average down. You protect your capital, no capital, no chance for next round.
Not every trade must be profit, but you need to protect your capital. Without capital, you are out.

4) No money to settle T+2, it is advisable do not touch at all. Decades ago, T+7 also hard, let alone T+2.
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post Jun 12 2020, 09:40 PM

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The Malay Mail Online

Comfort Gloves posts healthy jump in Q1 profit to RM16.34m

Friday, 12 Jun 2020 08:33 PM MYT

KUALA LUMPUR, June 12 — Comfort Gloves Bhd’s net profit almost doubled to RM16.34 million in the first quarter (Q1) ended April 30, 2020, from RM8.41 million in the same quarter last year.

The maker of natural and synthetic examination gloves attributed the better performance to higher revenue and lower production cost due to increased productivity.

Stronger sales volume boosted its revenue by 27.5 per cent year-on-year to RM152.91 million, the Perak-based company announced to Bursa Malaysia today.

The company, which derived 87 per cent of its revenue from synthetic gloves in the last financial year, said prospects of the rubber glove manufacturing sector this year remained strong with increasing demand arising from the trend towards switching to nitrile gloves.

“With the recent coronavirus pandemic, we expect glove consumption to increase in the long run due to rising global health awareness,” Comfort Gloves said.

The company said its marketing team was capitalising on the shortage of gloves globally to aggressively expand its customer base for continuous market expansion and future growth.

Based on its 2020 annual report, its biggest markets are Malaysia and other Asian countries. — Bernama
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post Jun 13 2020, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jun 13 2020, 03:22 AM)
So.... buy?
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I can’t answer that question for you, bro. I entered Top Glove and Comfort (among others) after Top Glove’s QR was released last Thursday. That didn’t turn out well. No quick money to be made. The party fizzled our within 30 minutes.

So next Monday either Comfort will rise another 10% to 20% or it will remain flat like Top Glove. Nobody knows.

P/S : I could paint a very glowing picture for Comfort like some of the bloggers in l3 investor and lure unsuspecting forumers to buy Comfort since I have already bought it. But that would be downright dishonesty. I believe in the law of karma - you will reap what you sow.

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post Jun 15 2020, 09:34 AM

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Good morning folks.

A tussle between the bear and the bull this morning for my glove stocks. Who will win?
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post Jun 15 2020, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(helob @ Jun 15 2020, 09:47 AM)
Which glove stocks are you tracking now?
Any others in different sectors worth a look?
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Currently I have Top Glove, Comfort and Harta in my trading portfolio.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 15 2020, 09:50 AM)
very dicey.

but getting more rangebound, it seems.

i dumped topglove+supermx at 9:02, happy enuf.

will see later what happens... if anything is still in play.
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Good move to lock in your profits. When in doubt, sell and live to fight another day.

My unrealised losses now is still within a tolerable margin. Win big or go home. bruce.gif
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post Jun 15 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 15 2020, 09:59 AM)
harta is holding v well, probably the best bet of them all.
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Yes, Harta is quite stable. But anything can happen now. The market has turned upside down.

Hit and run seems to be the method now. sweat.gif

I did advise another forumer to cut loss and sell Supermax last Friday. But he refused. It is now down -3.41%. I hope he is OK.
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post Jun 15 2020, 12:33 PM

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Hoho. Market turned bearish.

Cut loss to preserve capital. Live to fight another day.

Life goes on. smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2020, 08:59 PM

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Mr Market was pretty grumpy today. Let’s see how he will behave for the rest of the week.

If the market continue to correct itself like in March, then maybe we can start looking at blue chip shares again like Maybank and HEIM instead of just focusing on glove stocks.

I am holding 100% cash now since I had already sold off all my entire portfolio a few weeks also. Waiting for opportunities.
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post Jun 16 2020, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jun 16 2020, 02:55 PM)
Check out DSONIC guys.
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Anything special brewing there? My crystal ball is broken. smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2020, 02:59 PM

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I did day trading today in Bursa for a small profit.

This is really like casino gambling already.
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post Jun 16 2020, 10:56 PM

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Adventa?
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post Jun 17 2020, 10:50 AM

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Suffering from glove stock fatigue. With nothing interesting in the horizon, I switched my attention to the semiconductor industries.

Today I am trading D&O and VS.


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post Jun 17 2020, 11:09 AM

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Based on the latest QR and valuation, the only stocks worth looking at now are Top Glove and Comfort.

Let's see how much further the glove stocks prices will fall before they are attractive enough to buy.

If you wish to buy Supermax...well all I can say is, your money, your call.

My view on Supermax is this. If you invest RM1000, your potential loss is RM200 to RM400. Against that, you hope to earn RM100. Does the risk/reward ratio make any sense to you?


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post Jun 17 2020, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jun 17 2020, 04:39 PM)
I now avoid Supermax like the plague. The one which caused me so much loss.....

Now playing Adventa and Comfort. But down today. Damn.
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Err..I did try to warn you bro. Tuition fee is expensive.

But what is done is done.
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post Jun 18 2020, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 18 2020, 10:05 AM)
managed to log in Rakuten at early 9am ish, saw they force sell my puts on contra account even after topping up on T+1

lucky m+ still up and well phew
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I notice that Rakuten is different from other platforms when you are using the contra account.

Rakuten will not automatically deduct the money from your account to pay for the stocks even after you top up your account. You have to pay manually by clicking on the 'pick up stocks' and the 'confirm' button.

When I started using Rakuten, some of my stocks was forced sold on T+3 even though I have money sitting in my account. Luckily the losses was minimal.

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post Jun 18 2020, 10:17 AM

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The market is drifting sideways.

My view is that it is not safe to go back into the glove stocks now until the prices stabilise. Right now, glove stocks are still trending downwards and losing about 3-4% of their value daily.
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post Jun 18 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 18 2020, 10:23 AM)
hmm, didn't know this. I topped up my contra account though, not my cash account and left like a couple hundred ringgits as buffer .
but oh well.

looking at shorting KLCI again after lunch
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Bro, you need to pay the stocks in your contra account manually. Even if you have a pile of cash sitting there. Otherwise, your stocks will be forced sell at T+3.
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post Jun 18 2020, 10:43 AM

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Rakuten is OK now. Can log in already.

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