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debonairs91
post Sep 9 2020, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(waghyu @ Sep 9 2020, 09:21 PM)
Your theory is correct. All left with underwear.
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So sad I give people free tips and all don't want to follow
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 09:22 PM)
I had to cut loss Supermax also despite wanting to hold on. But there is no signal so far that it will rise back soonest possible. Only TG has hope.

A loss I have to swallow, still if there is a rebound, will at least return back all my losses.
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Need to learn tu cut loss. Once you cut loss, you get your capital to buy and make profit again. If don't cut loss you want become investor for 10 years? Everyday open mplus also heart pain see red.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 9 2020, 10:27 PM)
Lol. Who wants to listen to a nobody? It’s just coincidence that the share is plunging all the way. A monkey could’ve made that call.
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Exactly until 7.50 from 8.4?
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post Sep 9 2020, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(ipat88 @ Sep 9 2020, 11:39 PM)
honestly i think glove and healthcare stock bull run has toned down..
it had been consolidating over the past weeks..
good thing that fundamentals of these glove company are still intact..
so if you have gloves stock on your portfolio, hold on, top up gradually if u can every time the stock is down..
because you need to average down the acquisition price..
myself hold TG stock, average acquisition price 9.2..
honestly, being realistic with current market situation, i dont see any way TG can climb back to 9 or above that for upcoming week..
but i do believe it can reach 8.5 right before the FY 2020 earnings release..
so i will buy more when the stock go down, try to reduce my average acquisition price, so at least minimize my losses..
i went all out on TG last month, now need to withdraw my stashaway investment saving to cover back all the losses..
you cant get right all the time..
on the other hand, luckily i close all my NASDAQ tech stocks trade on etoro before the crash and ended up with 40% profit..
because what troubling me, while tech stocks prices rampaged, earnings slept..
earnings must grow at an extremely rapid rate to give investors a decent return..
well after step correction, now we may rally again..
lesson learned
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Why not cut loss?
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post Sep 10 2020, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Sep 10 2020, 12:11 AM)
DJI and S&P 500 futures mean nothing on our market. Why does the US market have anything to do with Bursa? It’s a different game. It’s just speculations and predictions and reflects market sentiment in the US before market open next day. Funds are still bullish on FAANGS + TSLA. Whereas in Malaysia, retail investors control a fair share of market. And people are already panic-selling.
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It's market sentiment.
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post Sep 10 2020, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 10 2020, 12:03 AM)
thanks for sharing.

i feel u... at rm9.20.

there has been all kinds of talk about why the price plunged for 7 consecutive days - moratorium ending, IB's suppressing price for their warrants, vaccine, etc.

the recent market turbulence may take some time to settle.

but we do know with a good degree of certainty that the sep 17 QR should report >1bil PAT.

the boss has said the ASP is good and will be good for "several more qtrs".

so, say full year forward is 3bil (not 4). 3.0/8.12 bil shares = rm0.37 per share.

at today's price of 7.15, p/e is just 19.

from this perspective, it has every possibility and probability to rise to p/e 25 or higher - >rm9.25.

it is becos i trust the nos. that i hold.

but we know market forces are not always rational, more so with bursa as we know it.

i do not subscribe to the view that it can go down much further.

remember, this is the largest glove maker in the world and is making big profits.

so, hang in there.

https://research.sginvestors.io/2020/09/top...2020-09-08.html
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Boss also said to buy TG as long as haven't reached rm30
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 10 2020, 07:39 AM)
So.... DJI is (quite) green today. Therefore KLSE should be in green too. If gloves continue to fall though......
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Supermax will rise until 8.00 in the beginning becoz of optimistic retailers. But after that all operators continue dumping price until it get back to 7.40/7.50
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 10 2020, 07:48 AM)
Kossan seems a better bet though..... with so much fall in last few days, it can get back to 13 in next 2 days of continuous rally.
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Idk about KOSSAN I don't follow them. But I would think all the glove stocks would act the same today. So rise a bit then drop back to yesterday's level
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post Sep 10 2020, 01:32 PM

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Said dy to cut loss if drop below 7.20 don't want to listen. Better cut loss after break coz klci going to keep dropping tomorrow until 1470.

If 1470 fail then expect it to drop even further until 1400
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post Sep 10 2020, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 10 2020, 01:35 PM)
klci will be supported by the big brother.
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Who do you think caused today's drop? They want to test 1470 first. If they think okay can range here then it'll be 1470-1500.

If they think cannot then byebye lor and say hi to 1400
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post Sep 10 2020, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 10 2020, 01:35 PM)
klci is supported by the big brother.
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I called this 2 days ago still got people don't want listen to me

You guys better be careful if klci broke 1470 because very high chance it will keep dropping until 1400

QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 8 2020, 09:59 PM)
if broke 1500 then expect to go down until 1470 then climb back abit to 1480 in the last 30mins  rclxms.gif
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post Sep 10 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 10 2020, 01:49 PM)
Bro, if you are confident, it will drop to 1400.
Short the index bro, ez money for you; every 1 point drop is RM50. Drop to 1400 from here is 100% gain
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Short selling banned until December...
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post Sep 10 2020, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 10 2020, 01:50 PM)
Bro shorting the future index (FKLI) is not banned...
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I not that pro until that level yet don't even know how to do that.
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:17 PM

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I pity those without courage to cut loss
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 10 2020, 07:22 PM)
I pity more on those that trying so hard to get attention here.
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I'm giving legit advice to get out now and get back your capital. At least won't lose more. All you guys are doing is just hoping
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(247365 @ Sep 10 2020, 07:24 PM)
gloves will go back to pre-covid price soon ie divide by 5 for TG
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TG was rm6 pre covid...
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:33 PM

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Okay let me change my question. Those still holding gloves, how long you guys going to keep holding? At what price are you going to sell
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post Sep 10 2020, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 10 2020, 07:15 PM)
I'm also in Gloves. Small paper loss this far.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 10 2020, 07:22 PM)
I pity more on those that trying so hard to get attention here.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 10 2020, 07:22 PM)
supermax also did share buyback today, rm36 mil spent.

good, they have cash too.

see tmr who else wanna dump, cut loss, take profit, whatever!
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Sep 10 2020, 07:23 PM)
Join supermaxx also today. Have fun tomorrow tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 10 2020, 07:24 PM)
Two /Ktards arguing in here. While we munch popcorn.
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I'm very curious to hear the answer. Can let me know please?

Okay let me change my question. Those still holding gloves, how long you guys going to keep holding? At what price are you going to sell


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post Sep 10 2020, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 07:39 PM)
Simple answer. When it is OVERVALUED.
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What value is overvalued in your opinion?
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 07:58 PM)
my value will change over the time based on any incident that might affect the fundamental of the company

at the moment is RM12, but I am very conservative. Some might have higher TP  biggrin.gif
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Good to know. I'm assuming 12 is for TG?

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