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post Aug 17 2020, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 17 2020, 08:58 PM)
Stock price doesn't drop continuously, it will rise again. The issue is will current shareholders hold on, buy more or to take opportunity to sell?
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Wrong. Stock price can fall to zero. Especially during recession.
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post Aug 17 2020, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 17 2020, 09:28 PM)
GenM is good (I dont own them, not promoting, might buy later but certainly not now), once the vaccine is in production. Casinos should be able to prosper  rclxm9.gif
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The special sauce is that they did a lot of impairment write off in Q1. I like that. Cutting the fat early
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post Aug 17 2020, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Aug 17 2020, 09:27 PM)
I might be biased. But I scooped a lot of Genting shares during the March coronavirus "mini" stock market crash. A lot of DCA. Literally bought during downtrend and then bought during the momentum. For sure, next QR will be shit. Negative earnings guaranteed. So the correct play would be to enter now. And buy some more after the earnings. And long hold until the reopening of the outdoor theme park.
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My plan is to buy before the theme park reopening (provided that reliable effective vaccine is already in production), still have about 1 year timeframe for me to collect low (ideally below 1.9 for GenM).
*PS: I am not cursing your counter. But everyone loves discounts =D
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post Aug 17 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 17 2020, 09:28 PM)
GenM is good (I dont own them, not promoting, might buy later but certainly not now), once the vaccine is in production. Casinos should be able to prosper  rclxm9.gif
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Genting is a more valued buy for sure if you have more capital
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QUOTE(hs_clover @ Aug 17 2020, 09:29 PM)
wat loan repayment?
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A lot of adults have commitments such as (autoloan, housing loan)
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post Aug 17 2020, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Aug 17 2020, 09:05 PM)
While I am strong believer of the short term growth of glove sector, I am a bit reserved on the long term growth.

China two biggest listed gloves company are pushing hard to venture into nitrile gloves production. Their expansion plan over the next 5 years are ambitious and if you combined with the current ASEAN Big-Five, the industry capacity YoY increase might (I say might because it’s my long term projection, and when you start projecting long term, it’s easier to have more variances if you miscalculate a small tiny part) outperform the glove demand YoY increase.

2nd reason is currently those companies relies heavily on the Taiwan and South Korea company supply on nitrile latex. I don’t know whether have anyone of you done any homework on the material cost. Recently the supply is very tight and material cost will definitely increase soon (although I think it’s negligible compare to the ASP increase). The expansion of China company will make the material supply even more tight and when material demand > supply, price of material will increase and eat into the profit margin of gloves manufacturer.
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I agree with you. As I said earlier, China is a wild card not to be underestimated.

But their production is not up, and won't be up for another year at least. No reason to panic yet. I believe the stock market is future looking, but not that far forward.

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 17 2020, 09:33 PM)
My plan is to buy before the theme park reopening (provided that reliable effective vaccine is already in production), still have about 1 year timeframe for me to collect low (ideally below 1.9 for GenM).
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RM1.9, hmm very hard tho. Genting core holder base are stubborn as hell.

Maybe a freaking ugly quarterly report could create that buying opportunity, but i can't really put a high likelihood for that.
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 17 2020, 09:36 PM)
RM1.9, hmm very hard tho. Genting core holder base are stubborn as hell.

Maybe a freaking ugly quarterly report could create that buying opportunity, but i can't really put a high likelihood for that.
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Yes hahaha, very hard. Wait only lo, if no drop can always buy other counters. No FOMO
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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Aug 17 2020, 09:34 PM)
Genting is a more valued buy for sure if you have more capital
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No difference one on the capital front. if 10% gains, its 10% gain.

All boils down is you feel which one could have larger moves. if both move RM0.50, then genm more worth it due to lower price per share
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 17 2020, 09:28 PM)
GenM is good (I dont own them, not promoting, might buy later but certainly not now), once the vaccine is in production. Casinos should be able to prosper  rclxm9.gif
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Source: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5011439


GDP growth for selected countries (sorted from highest to lowest)

Q1
Vietnam : +3.82% (10-year low)
Indonesia : +2.97% (weakest since 2001)
Malaysia : +0.7% (weakest since 3Q 2009 )
Philippines : -0.2% (first time negative in 22 years)
South Korea : -1.4% (biggest decline since 4Q 2008)
UK : -2.0%
Thailand : -1.8% (the deepest contraction since the flood-hit fourth quarter of 2011)
Singapore : -2.2% (worst GDP year-on-year contraction since 1Q 2009)
US : -4.8% (lowest level since the 8.4% plunge in Q4 of 2008)
China : -6.8% (first decline since at least 1992, when official quarterly GDP records started)
Hong Kong : -8.9% (biggest fall since the government began tracking comparable data in 1974)

Q2

China : +3.2%
Vietnam : +0.32%
South Korea : -3.3% (worst GDP contraction South Korea has experienced since 1998.)
Indonesia : -5.32% (the lowest since the first quarter of 1999)
Hong Kong : -9.0% (contracted for the fourth straight quarter, only one quarter behind the longest recession on record, when Hong Kong's economy shrank for five quarters in 1998-1999.)
US : -9.5% (steepest decline in nearly 70 years of quarterly data)
Singapore : -13.2% (worst on record)
Phillipines : -16.5% (lowest since 1981)
Malaysia : -17.1% (worst performance in nearly 22 years)
UK : -21.7% ( worst on record )



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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Aug 17 2020, 09:48 PM)
/k have a quality post that is better than 99% of the posts here.

Source: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5011439
GDP growth for selected countries (sorted from highest to lowest)

Q1
Vietnam : +3.82% (10-year low)
Indonesia : +2.97% (weakest since 2001)
Malaysia : +0.7% (weakest since 3Q 2009 )
Philippines : -0.2% (first time negative in 22 years)
South Korea : -1.4% (biggest decline since 4Q 2008)
UK : -2.0%
Thailand : -1.8% (the deepest contraction since the flood-hit fourth quarter of 2011)
Singapore : -2.2% (worst GDP year-on-year contraction since 1Q 2009)
US : -4.8% (lowest level since the 8.4% plunge in Q4 of 2008)
China : -6.8% (first decline since at least 1992, when official quarterly GDP records started)
Hong Kong : -8.9% (biggest fall since the government began tracking comparable data in 1974)

Q2

China : +3.2%
Vietnam : +0.32%
South Korea : -3.3% (worst GDP contraction South Korea has experienced since 1998.)
Indonesia : -5.32% (the lowest since the first quarter of 1999)
Hong Kong : -9.0% (contracted for the fourth straight quarter, only one quarter behind the longest recession on record, when Hong Kong's economy shrank for five quarters in 1998-1999.)
US : -9.5% (steepest decline in nearly 70 years of quarterly data)
Singapore : -13.2% (worst on record)
Phillipines : -16.5% (lowest since 1981)
Malaysia : -17.1% (worst performance in nearly 22 years)
UK : -21.7% ( worst on record )
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Btw developing countries stand a higher chance at improving GDP than developed countries
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 09:30 PM)
gold steady steady ahh...hehe...gap up opening tomorrow? biggrin.gif

barrick gold also high opening today
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Dang I sold Tomei and Nice on loss. But I still have Poh Kong and MuiProp. If remain high price tomorrow before opening, jackpot.
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post Aug 17 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 09:30 PM)
gold steady steady ahh...hehe...gap up opening tomorrow? biggrin.gif

barrick gold also high opening today
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steady la! burnoil up up up... wake up > 2k/oz then huat liao. bruce.gif
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maybe punters can buy O&G...? biggrin.gif

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Harris said one thing to watch as the election draws closer would be hostility toward Iran from the U.S. in order to get people to “rally around the flag.”

“A most likely ‘rally around the flag’ event would be (the U.S.) attacking Iran or perhaps (a) Venezuela overthrow,” he said in an email to CNBC. “So something around a temporary oil spike but not a fundamental call on oil winners.”

He highlighted defense companies as an obvious option in this environment.

“To me the message is just that a heavy act of military aggression is something investors should not be surprised by in the run up to the vote,” he added.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/17/buy-protect...egist-says.html

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 09:30 PM)
gold steady steady ahh...hehe...gap up opening tomorrow? biggrin.gif

barrick gold also high opening today
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Lets cheong gold tmr. Ayam is in.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 17 2020, 10:38 PM)
Lets cheong gold tmr. Ayam is in.
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post Aug 17 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Aug 17 2020, 09:30 PM)
gold steady steady ahh...hehe...gap up opening tomorrow? biggrin.gif

barrick gold also high opening today
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What is your target stocks besides your amui?
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post Aug 17 2020, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Aug 17 2020, 09:48 PM)
/k have a quality post that is better than 99% of the posts here.

Source: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5011439
GDP growth for selected countries (sorted from highest to lowest)

Q1
Vietnam : +3.82% (10-year low)
Indonesia : +2.97% (weakest since 2001)
Malaysia : +0.7% (weakest since 3Q 2009 )
Philippines : -0.2% (first time negative in 22 years)
South Korea : -1.4% (biggest decline since 4Q 2008)
UK : -2.0%
Thailand : -1.8% (the deepest contraction since the flood-hit fourth quarter of 2011)
Singapore : -2.2% (worst GDP year-on-year contraction since 1Q 2009)
US : -4.8% (lowest level since the 8.4% plunge in Q4 of 2008)
China : -6.8% (first decline since at least 1992, when official quarterly GDP records started)
Hong Kong : -8.9% (biggest fall since the government began tracking comparable data in 1974)

Q2

China : +3.2%
Vietnam : +0.32%
South Korea : -3.3% (worst GDP contraction South Korea has experienced since 1998.)
Indonesia : -5.32% (the lowest since the first quarter of 1999)
Hong Kong : -9.0% (contracted for the fourth straight quarter, only one quarter behind the longest recession on record, when Hong Kong's economy shrank for five quarters in 1998-1999.)
US : -9.5% (steepest decline in nearly 70 years of quarterly data)
Singapore : -13.2% (worst on record)
Phillipines : -16.5% (lowest since 1981)
Malaysia : -17.1% (worst performance in nearly 22 years)
UK : -21.7% ( worst on record )
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These data can Google easily. What's more important is someone does analysis and share findings.
Others can then give counter-argument or their inputs.
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QUOTE(kembayang @ Aug 17 2020, 10:42 PM)
What is your target stocks besides your amui?
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gold gold & more gold biggrin.gif

i do put some in manufacturing/IR 4.0/tech companies...serbadk , istone, myeg

and there's fintec.....

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