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post Mar 4 2021, 08:20 PM

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I first highlighted KGB a few months ago in this thread when it was promoted by Kentrade/Kenanga.

At that time, the valuation was more attractive.

After ensuring myself that KGB does not stand for the Russian secret service, for some reason, I did not buy the stock.

Since then, KGB has gone up a lot. But then it also fell victim to the 'goreng mentality' and the stock became volatile. smile.gif

Let's hope KGB will become like The Battle of Stirling Bridge between the forces of William Wallace and the English army where the superior English forces were defeated.

Long live Braveheart! rclxm9.gif



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post Mar 4 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 4 2021, 08:38 PM)
Uncle ah...can give siu lui ji some guidance on your approach for tomorrow with KGB? Are you planning to actively monitor its price to target the sell or setting it at a target price?
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I really don’t have a fixed approach. It depends on the movement of the stocks.

Sometimes, when I make a RM500 to RM1000 profit or more and the stock is for pure trading, I will sell all.

For KGB, I will monitor it tomorrow morning. I will probably sell 2/3 and keep the remainder if it goes up about 8%. If there is no momentum and the price is retreating after an initial surge, I will sell all. If it goes up +15% to +20% (unlikely), I will sell all.

Cut loss policy also applies. KGB may fail tomorrow. 😃

For you, if you are a value investor and plans to keep KGB for at least 1 year, then today was a good opportunity to top up.

Sorry, I know I didn’t really answer your question.

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post Mar 5 2021, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Mar 5 2021, 03:33 AM)
So I tried to check the PE ratio for Kpower (just an example), it's showing different numbers ranging from 20 - 50 on different platforms I check.

KLSE Screener: 30
Google: 20.05
Rakuten Trade: 48.07
Value Farm (by Grandpine Capital): 30.06
VI: 35.02
Bursa Marketplace: 21.38

So sifu sekalian, why is that so and where do you usually check your PE? Thanks in advance!
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I am also interested to know. I assume they are all referring to trailing PE and some are not using forward PE.

The trailing PE will change daily because the share price of the stock changes daily but this does not explain the wide discrepancies in the PE ratio between different platforms. Unless the platforms do not update the trailing PE daily.

Perhaps some sifus here can enlighten us. Thanks!

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post Mar 5 2021, 09:40 AM

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Good morning folks.

KGB mati kaw kaw. Down -7.66% in the market now.

Washing off margin players and T+2 players.

For me, no retreat no surrender.

Logging off for meetings. Be back later.
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post Mar 5 2021, 04:35 PM

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I just back from my meetings. Logged into Rakuten.

Fuh. KGB is now down -9.57%. Trading at RM1.890. Even Kenanga has downgraded the price to RM2.60.

Heavy unrealised losses for KGB at my end. The selling will stop on Tuesday after all the T+2 traders are killed off. My 2 cents view.

But I went in with my eye wide open knowing that this is a potential falling knife. So, cannot complain.

On an happier note, the glove stocks are all green and broke the Black Friday jinx today. Even my Armada stock is now up +7.06% in the market.

On an unhappy note, all the tech stocks are down. D&O is down -7.69% for e.g. Anyone still dare to play rebound? Nanti Monday drop another -7% then how?

Don't think too much. Just enjoy your weekend. smile.gif




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post Mar 5 2021, 05:53 PM

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Important lessons to be learned from buying KGB.

1. To hold or to cut when your losses reach -10%? Depends on whether you are an investor or a trader.

2. If you are an investor, is the stock already full valued in the first place?

3. For those buying KGB hoping for a rebound today, were there any adverse insider news for the company which was only released TODAY after the stock dropped yesterday.

4. Playing rebound is not easy especially when there is no MOS for the stock and unknown insider news. Otherwise, everyone would be a multi-millionaire.

5. Reports from analysts for the TP is only a guide. Sometimes, the stock analysts or IBs have a vested interest in promoting a particular stock. We still need to do our own research.

6. [please add your own lesson]

If KGB does not rebound next Monday and if anyone followed me to buy KGB yesterday, then a thousand apologies from me. But I did post all the warning signs about KGB yesterday before jumping in....

Let's wait until next Monday. It ain't over until the fat lady sings. smile.gif

Have a good weekend.
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post Mar 8 2021, 09:42 AM

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Good morning folks.

I have been watching the Age of Samurai on Netflix. Lots of good tips on stock investment that we can pick up there.


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post Mar 8 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 8 2021, 09:51 AM)
for example don't catch a samurai if it drops?
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Haha. That's good one. biggrin.gif

Some examples that we can learn from The Age of Samurai are:

1. It is a huge risk to attack a stronger enemy daimyo who has more battle experience and more soldiers. But if you succeed, the reward would be huge!
2. When attacking the enemy castle, watch out for the enemy's reinforcement coming at the back.
3. Know when to attack and when to retreat to the safety of your castle.
4. Always have a back up plan when you attack the enemy. What happens if your plan fails?
5. Don't commit 100% of your troops into a single battle. If you lose that battle, that is it. You will be wiped out.
6. Don't be overconfident of your abilities. Look at your battle plan and analyse the weakness.
7. And the list goes on and goes.

P/S: I know. I know. Some of you are thinking "My stocks are in a bloodbath and Vanguard is talking $#%$&$. What the bangwall.gif mad.gif vmad.gif

Then just skip this post lor. Freedom of speech mah.
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post Mar 8 2021, 10:13 AM

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On a serious note, I am cutting loss on KGB and VSTEC.

KGB is now -14.21% in my portfolio. I have sold off more than 1/2 of my stocks in tranches. It is now trading at -4.74%. I may continue to hold the balance until tomorrow. See how it goes in the afternoon session. Maybe by today all the margin and contra players will be flushed out.

VSTEC is now -13.03% in my portfolio. It has been trending downward relentlessly.

All my realised profits for March 2021 has been wiped out.

On a happier note, Armada continues to spend upwards. It is now up +7.69% in the market. In my portfolio, Armada is +12.64% while DPIH is +5.4%.

Looking around for some stocks to buy if I have the time!

Sekian lapuran syiok sendiri saya.

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post Mar 8 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Mar 8 2021, 10:19 AM)
Daddy's post always longer than average forumer here,
Daddy job is a doctor researcher?
Owes write thesis? laugh.gif
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Sorry, I am always very cheong hei.

I tried to write shorter posts but always fail.

Please bear with me. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 09:18 AM

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Good morning folks.

Cut loss for my remaining KGB and VSTEC stocks. Don’t look back. Don’t regret your decision even if the stocks rebound tomorrow or next week.

Protect your capital/troops and live to fight another day!

Once we enter the territory of 40% to 50% unrealized losses, it can cause heavy damage to the overall portfolio.

Be careful of confirmation bias when we are holding on to a losing position and trying to find justifications not to sell it. Does the TA and FA support our view?
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post Mar 9 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Mar 9 2021, 09:47 AM)
Dad, which stock are in Ur shopping list? All red red now
Inb4 still very long post :lol
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No shopping list for now.

No time and no ammo.

Let my troops recharge their batteries first and let me to recharge my brain. smile.gif

A lot of my troops are still trapped in the ring of fire known as the glove stocks. I have to formulate a rescue plan for them as well. sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 9 2021, 11:32 AM)
Or wait for a change in weather.
Current season not condusive.
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Now is the dry season fanning the fire and causing all the glove stocks to burn.

I am waiting for rain to come. It is supposed to rain by today or within the next 1 week.

Otherwise, I will have to pull out all my troops in stages. No point letting them burn to death. sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 9 2021, 01:03 PM)
Uncle, what you plan to do if rain today or next one week?
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Take profit in stages.

Advance and retreat your troops in an orderly fashion. Otherwise, chaos will result in a slaughter. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 04:20 PM

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No wonder my recent trades have failed. My 3rd eye was closed! smile.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5114374
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post Mar 11 2021, 09:30 AM

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Good morning folks.

Entered Maybulk and MMC. Another high risk mission especially for Maybulk.

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post Mar 11 2021, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 11 2021, 10:33 AM)

good luck.  thumbsup.gif

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A quick trade only hopefully.
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post Mar 11 2021, 10:18 PM

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Self Note :

Sold the following stocks today:

1. Armada for about +9% profit
2. Jaycorp for about +2.33%
3. DHIP for about +1% profit.

Transferring the proceeds to another stocks.

Monitoring glove stocks. To reduce, cut or hold? Light at the end of the tunnel? When?

Let's see how Maybulk will perform over the next few days. Is it really a turnaround stock or just a pump and dump stock? TA looks promising but the FA looks horrible.

MMC looks more solid.

Monitoring EITA and Complet. Both fell about -20% and -42% over the past 5 to 10 trading days. Catching a falling knife again??
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post Mar 11 2021, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 11 2021, 11:29 PM)
Do you look at MClean?
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No. Anything special brewing there?

QUOTE(south_panda @ Mar 11 2021, 11:33 PM)
Dint wait for the brent oil price go up abit?
It’s 68+ today.
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I am just a trader with limited time and experience. smile.gif
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post Mar 12 2021, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 11 2021, 11:44 PM)
The roller coaster in Mclean should suit you.

MMC is good, I got it at 80sen for dividend long term...regretted didnt buy more

What is with MMHB? It was IPOed at rm4 and shot up. I saw the stock at 40sen and thought when can this company turnaround its operations with the high overhead. And it shot up recently.
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Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

I will have a look at MMHB.

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